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There no denying that being force to remain in our homes is the best way to fight this virus. Italy had 50,000 people under martial law a few weeks ago, and I wouldnt be surprised if it comes to that here.

 

But why wait for it to get out of hand first? It worked for China. Although we shouldnt need to pry people out of their homes or weld doors shut. Anyone leaves their home they're arrested on site and forced to quarantine under military supervision. Have people deliver good sanitized food to the ones that need it in the mean time. Disinfect the streets, have hospital staff ready to try and save minimal critical patients instead of being overwhelmed. 

 

This is a pandemic and it only takes 1 bad apple to ruin it for everyone. Martial Law may be the only way. 

 

Do you agree?

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11 minutes ago, Brock Botanen said:

Anyone leaves their home they're arrested on site and forced to quarantine 

Do you agree?

You want everyone quarantined and/or arrested if they leave their homes....

 

Everyone except doctors,  nurses,  other health professionals, daycare providers,  military,  police,  ambulance, truck drivers, border security, coast Guard, air traffic controllers, grounds crew, lab researchers, manufacturers,   ect....

 

It isn't that simple.

 

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People are starting to panic buy at the liquor store,I think it’s time:bigblush:

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We will be on mandatory lockdown by the end of the weekend.  We don't have the police or military resources to really enforce it though.

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48 minutes ago, Fanuck said:

You want everyone quarantined and/or arrested if they leave their homes....

 

Everyone except doctors,  nurses,  other health professionals, daycare providers,  military,  police,  ambulance, truck drivers, border security, coast Guard, air traffic controllers, grounds crew, lab researchers, manufacturers,   ect....

 

It isn't that simple.

 

Why would they need to go to work if there is not travel. And it is that easy with martial law, you going to out muscle the military?

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If we shut down all non-essential businesses for 14 days then we would effectively prevent the spread of the virus

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Just now, RetroCanuck said:

If we shut down all non-essential businesses for 14 days then we would effectively prevent the spread of the virus

Not if some people are out hanging around friends and going to these place that are open just for something to do. What we are doing will no doubt slow the spread, but it definitely wont stop or prevent it

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23 minutes ago, RetroCanuck said:

If we shut down all non-essential businesses for 14 days then we would effectively prevent the spread of the virus

 

21 minutes ago, Brock Botanen said:

Not if some people are out hanging around friends and going to these place that are open just for something to do. What we are doing will no doubt slow the spread, but it definitely wont stop or prevent it

So would driving in my truck to the middle of nowhere using gas I've already loaded up on count as breaking a mandatory lockdown?  Asking for a friend..... 

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24 minutes ago, Brock Botanen said:

Why would they need to go to work if there is not travel. And it is that easy with martial law, you going to out muscle the military?

Military,  you may not be aware,  use civilian air fields. Plus some essential goods (like a possible vaccine) will perhaps need to be transported via air.

 

The military cannot police ~40milion people - Let's be real.  California tried exactly what you are suggesting and their governor basically said it would be policed by 'social pressure', not by military or law enforcement. 

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27 minutes ago, Brock Botanen said:

you going to out muscle the military?

We talking army or general seamen here?  

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39 minutes ago, Brock Botanen said:

Why would they need to go to work if there is not travel. And it is that easy with martial law, you going to out muscle the military?

So you picked out one of all the options he gave you? Plus don't we have air travel within the country?

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The quickest way to end this is to go full authoritarian and force everyone to stay out of the public. This worked in Wuhan if you believe the reports. But we won't do that. So people are going to go hang out enmasse at parks and etc. 

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I work in manufacturing - they say practice social distance but I just observed three workers putting product in a enclosure(4x8).  They have sani wipes for the office but nothing for the shop except sanitizer on the doors into the office.(ie shop floors, my computer/desk).  I really don't think they care much about our safety tbh - I am sure they care about the ones making big coin that get to work from home but not us peons.  I might just take a leave of absence and take the financial hit.  

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3 minutes ago, Tre Mac said:

I work in manufacturing - they say practice social distance but I just observed three workers putting product in a enclosure(4x8).  They have sani wipes for the office but nothing for the shop except sanitizer on the doors into the office.(ie shop floors, my computer/desk).  I really don't think they care much about our safety tbh - I am sure they care about the ones making big coin that get to work from home but not us peons.  I might just take a leave of absence and take the financial hit.  

You guys still have businesses open in BC? It's pretty much a ghost town in Alberta I don't think manufacturing shops are running excavation companies aren't even running

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2 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said:

You guys still have businesses open in BC? It's pretty much a ghost town in Alberta I don't think manufacturing shops are running excavation companies aren't even running

I work in a Industrial sector/area/park and it seems everyone is open.

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4 minutes ago, Tre Mac said:

I work in a Industrial sector/area/park and it seems everyone is open.

I'm not picking on British Columbia I have family there but I have heard a lot of people tell me that they don't feel like BC is taking it serious enough I don't know if that is the case I know they're closures of schools and daycares and other things were all after Alberta's decision to do it and I think you guys have the second most cases in the country. Maybe you can fill me in on more of the approach they are taking. To be honest I hardly watch news anymore or TV for that matter.

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Martial Law is not going to stop this thing its too late, would just delay the inevitable, just keeping making money while social distancing. 

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1 hour ago, Provost said:

We will be on mandatory lockdown by the end of the weekend.  We don't have the police or military resources to really enforce it though.

^ this. Its Canada, we don't have the resources to waste on over reacting. We have to simply do what the best guidelines say to do. 

 

Of course there will be idiots. Welcome to life. But we should be able to flatten the curve and thats the main goal. 

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