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10 hours ago, BabychStache said:

I haven’t seen what types of weapons were used. Has anybody read that? 

Still can't find an article saying what it is as the RCMP has declined to comment on it.  

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1 hour ago, Ryan Strome said:

Yet yesterday they were talking about the gun ban without knowing what gun was used. 

Doesn't matter.

It's a gun.

Ban them all and everyone will be much safer.

"Never waste a good crisis."

 

 

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48 minutes ago, Lionized27 said:

Doesn't matter.

It's a gun.

Ban them all and everyone will be much safer.

"Never waste a good crisis."

So you want to punish millions of perfectly law abiding citizens because of some wacko who the RCMP can't confirm or deny if he had a PAL at all let alone the weapon used.  If it comes and out he doesn't have his PAL then he got his hands on an illegal gun, which 95% of crimes in Canada are from guns imported illegally from the USA anyways which makes the argument that guns should be banned even worse because these wackjobs are going to get a weapon regardless, whether its a gun, knife, vehicle, etc.

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7 minutes ago, Russ said:

So you want to punish millions of perfectly law abiding citizens because of some wacko who the RCMP can't confirm or deny if he had a PAL at all let alone the weapon used.  If it comes and out he doesn't have his PAL then he got his hands on an illegal gun, which 95% of crimes in Canada are from guns imported illegally from the USA anyways which makes the argument that guns should be banned even worse because these wackjobs are going to get a weapon regardless, whether its a gun, knife, vehicle, etc.

I added the /S for those who didn't read my previous comment in this thread.

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2 hours ago, Russ said:

Still can't find an article saying what it is as the RCMP has declined to comment on it.  

The officer doing the briefing confirmed he didn't have a PAL (he said FAC but Canada hasn't issued F.A.C's in years so I'm assuming he's referring to the PAL) so however he obtained what he used it was 100% illegal.

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23 minutes ago, Russ said:

So you want to punish millions of perfectly law abiding citizens because of some wacko who the RCMP can't confirm or deny if he had a PAL at all let alone the weapon used.  If it comes and out he doesn't have his PAL then he got his hands on an illegal gun, which 95% of crimes in Canada are from guns imported illegally from the USA anyways which makes the argument that guns should be banned even worse because these wackjobs are going to get a weapon regardless, whether its a gun, knife, vehicle, etc.

Russ you're a smart guy I think quarantine is getting to you. Haha

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6 minutes ago, CBH1926 said:

I saw somewhere that the shooter was convicted or charged with some sort of assault.

Wouldn't he be prohibited from owning a gun in Canada?

No.

It would certainly ensure it would be more difficult to obtain his PAL though.

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10 minutes ago, CBH1926 said:

I saw somewhere that the shooter was convicted or charged with some sort of assault.

Wouldn't he be prohibited from owning a gun in Canada?

 

3 minutes ago, Lionized27 said:

No.

It would certainly ensure it would be more difficult to obtain his PAL though.

 

1 minute ago, Ryan Strome said:

Lionized answered it.

Actually the more I think about this if you're convicted of a violent crime it's pretty well impossible isn't it?

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1 minute ago, Ryan Strome said:

 

 

Actually the more I think about this if you're convicted of a violent crime it's pretty well impossible isn't it?

Improbable but not impossible.

The RCMP does weigh the circumstances surrounding any criminal offense when doing their background checks.

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Authorized Possession

Eligibility to Hold Licences

General Rules

Marginal note:Public safety

  • 5 (1) A person is not eligible to hold a licence if it is desirable, in the interests of the safety of that or any other person, that the person not possess a firearm, a cross-bow, a prohibited weapon, a restricted weapon, a prohibited device, ammunition or prohibited ammunition.

  • Marginal note:Criteria

    (2) In determining whether a person is eligible to hold a licence under subsection (1), a chief firearms officer or, on a reference under section 74, a provincial court judge shall have regard to whether the person, within the previous five years,

    • (a) has been convicted or discharged under section 730 of the Criminal Code of

      • (i) an offence in the commission of which violence against another person was used, threatened or attempted,

      • (ii) an offence under this Act or Part III of the Criminal Code,

      • (iii) an offence under section 264 of the Criminal Code (criminal harassment),

      • (iv) an offence relating to the contravention of subsection 5(1) or (2), 6(1) or (2) or 7(1) of the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act, or

      • (v) an offence relating to the contravention of subsection 9(1) or (2), 10(1) or (2), 11(1) or (2), 12(1), (4), (5), (6) or (7), 13(1) or 14(1) of the Cannabis Act;

    • (b) has been treated for a mental illness, whether in a hospital, mental institute, psychiatric clinic or otherwise and whether or not the person was confined to such a hospital, institute or clinic, that was associated with violence or threatened or attempted violence on the part of the person against any person; or

    • (c) has a history of behaviour that includes violence or threatened or attempted violence on the part of the person against any person.

  • Marginal note:Exception

    (3) Despite subsection (2), in determining whether a non-resident who is 18 years old or older and by or on behalf of whom an application is made for a 60-day licence authorizing the non-resident to possess non-restricted firearms is eligible to hold a licence under subsection (1), a chief firearms officer or, on a reference under section 74, a provincial court judge may but need not have regard to the criteria described in subsection (2).

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3 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said:

Thanks, you're correct just read the fine print. 

Trust me, if an applicant has any kind of criminal record or has ever been arrested (not even charged with a crime) they should prepare for extreme scrutiny when applying for a PAL.

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7 minutes ago, Lionized27 said:

Trust me, if an applicant has any kind of criminal record or has ever been arrested (not even charged with a crime) they should prepare for extreme scrutiny when applying for a PAL.

I did know that. I can't remember all the ins and outs but I thought violent crimes were an immediate no go.

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