Captain Canuck #12 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Voting Smith and nominating Reinhart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Voted Butcher ... congrats Rota! Nominate Murzyn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 9 hours ago, stonecoldstevebernier said: Voting Tanev, nominating Pettersson. I see the merit in having him and/or Boeser slot in around the 50 spot. There's little doubt he'll hold down a place near the top of this list as he career progresses, and he's had his fair share of memorable moments already. One of two (soon to be three?) Calder trophy winners in franchise history. There are a few good soldiers and characters left that could be nominated, but given that we have 39 selected already and 10 options on the poll, I figure his name deserves a chance to be in the running. EPs on my list too...felt even though one less season he’s made a bigger impact then BB has...his first couple of months were simply outstanding for any rookie ever ... 10 goals his first 10 games and eventually praise from the great one himself. Think after the first two months he was near the league lead in PGP. QHs would also likely be on a re-do of this list likely after one more season...great time to be a fan.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalie13 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 8 hours ago, the grinder said: nominate jim sandlak 35th in all time points for the canucks That little stat blew me away. When I saw it, I thought you were making it up. I was a fan of "The House" when he was here but he just never quite lived up to expectations. I would have never dreamed he was that high on the list. Wow. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Nominate Quinn Hughes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbermen Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Vote Butcher Nominate Halward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 3 hours ago, Crabcakes said: Nominate Quinn Hughes Then we’d have to consider Tallon. Have to think about others when it comes to one or two seasons. Same with Reinhart which QHs doesn’t quite match up with yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the grinder Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 3 hours ago, goalie13 said: That little stat blew me away. When I saw it, I thought you were making it up. I was a fan of "The House" when he was here but he just never quite lived up to expectations. I would have never dreamed he was that high on the list. Wow. yep sandlak is that high up on the list , just like Vevergaert 25 th in all time scoring is ahead of Horvat in stats still hasn't made the top 50 yet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baratheon Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 25 minutes ago, the grinder said: yep sandlak is that high up on the list , just like Vevergaert 25 th in all time scoring is ahead of Horvat in stats still hasn't made the top 50 yet Bingo! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baratheon Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Vote Butcher! Nominate Murzyn! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 1 hour ago, the grinder said: yep sandlak is that high up on the list , just like Vevergaert 25 th in all time scoring is ahead of Horvat in stats still hasn't made the top 50 yet Dana Murzyn is fifth all-time in plus minus and 31st in games played ... points are not the only stats that matter. I had Horvat at 39th, one later his predecessor Oddliefson both two-way players ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 6 hours ago, goalie13 said: That little stat blew me away. When I saw it, I thought you were making it up. I was a fan of "The House" when he was here but he just never quite lived up to expectations. I would have never dreamed he was that high on the list. Wow. Sandlak was fun to watch. Big like Lindros ... without the same tools. That team was big. Then Quin decided to supersize things with Antoski (don’t remember him losing a fight decisively anyways) and big bust Stajanov. Hard to believe but we could of had Jagr (if he reported - word is after Krutov and Larionov they didn’t have the stomach so went with Nedved - but I’m pretty sure Jagr would have loved to play on that team) and Keith Tkachuk in the same draft instead.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Biestra Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, IBatch said: Sandlak was fun to watch. Big like Lindros ... without the same tools. That team was big. Then Quin decided to supersize things with Antoski (don’t remember him losing a fight decisively anyways) and big bust Stajanov. Hard to believe but we could of had Jagr (if he reported - word is after Krutov and Larionov they didn’t have the stomach so went with Nedved - but I’m pretty sure Jagr would have loved to play on that team) and Keith Tkachuk in the same draft instead.... A few threads ago I pointed out who we could have drafted in 1990... We could have had Jagr, Martin Brodeur and Doug Weight instead of our first three picks that year. Basically set for goalie post-McLean until 2015 or whenever. Then Sergei Zubov in the 4th round instead of...Darin Bader. Robert Lang in the 6th instead of...Daryl Filipek. And Peter Bondra in the 8th instead of...Paul O'Hagan. We could have had a dynasty for 10 years just from what we passed over in the 1990 draft. And that's not mentioning that we'd have been adding these guys to our 1990 core - Linden, McLean, Adams, etc. and there was nothing stopping us from still trading for Ronning, Courtnall, Craven, Momesso, etc. or drafting Bure (already drafted). Or keeping Larionov. Edited April 29, 2020 by Kevin Biestra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the grinder Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 2 hours ago, IBatch said: Dana Murzyn is fifth all-time in plus minus and 31st in games played ... points are not the only stats that matter. I had Horvat at 39th, one later his predecessor Oddliefson both two-way players ... well points are big part of the equation , would they not be ? since most of the list are top scoring players right? so Vevergaert played 409 games 304 points and Horvat has played 446 games and has 275 points so then points don't matter maybe it is toughness or gwg, or great plus minus Vevergaert 177 pim 17 gwg -69 Horvat 125 pim 14 gwg -65 so who is the better player ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, the grinder said: well points are big part of the equation , would they not be ? since most of the list are top scoring players right? so Vevergaert played 409 games 304 points and Horvat has played 446 games and has 275 points so then points don't matter maybe it is toughness or gwg, or great plus minus Vevergaert 177 pim 17 gwg -69 Horvat 125 pim 14 gwg -65 so who is the better player ? Yep I have him in the late 30’s ... before Murzyn by quite a bit - right around Lanz...ahead of Horvat, Hansen and Tanev too. Said before he was like Bertuzzi-lite...power forward from a forgotten era. Edited April 29, 2020 by IBatch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Biestra Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 1993-94 Canucks, post-ideal-1990 draft, just for the heck of it Bure - Linden - Jagr Courtnall - Ronning - Momesso Bondra - Weight - Adams Lang - Craven - Odjick / Hunter / Antoski / Gelinas ... McIntyre / Carson Murzyn - Zubov Lumme - Babych Diduck - Dirk / Glynn McLean - Martin Brodeur ... Whitmore note - no Hedican or Jeff Brown as they came from Nedved. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baratheon Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 1 hour ago, the grinder said: well points are big part of the equation , would they not be ? since most of the list are top scoring players right? so Vevergaert played 409 games 304 points and Horvat has played 446 games and has 275 points so then points don't matter maybe it is toughness or gwg, or great plus minus Vevergaert 177 pim 17 gwg -69 Horvat 125 pim 14 gwg -65 so who is the better player ? 55 minutes ago, IBatch said: Yep I have him in the late 30’s ... before Murzyn by quite a bit - right around Lanz...ahead of Horvat, Hansen and Tanev too. Said before he was like Bertuzzi-lite...power forward from a forgotten era. So what you guys are telling me is... Harold Snepsts should barely even be on this list!! (I'm kidding lol! I know that's not what you're saying) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 2 hours ago, IBatch said: Hard to believe but we could of had Jagr (if he reported - word is after Krutov and Larionov they didn’t have the stomach so went with Nedved Nedved was already playing in the U.S. and Jagr was overseas, with no release date in sight. If Jagr was over here there is a good chance he would have been drafted by Quebec before the Canucks could pick him anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 After a quick scan of these top-40, appears half of them arrived via trade. Historically, trade-returns have been a helluva' lot more favourable to this franchise, compared with draft picks. I'd bet the Habs(for example) top-40 would be composed of 70-80% of their own drafted assets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 4 hours ago, IBatch said: Then we’d have to consider Tallon. Have to think about others when it comes to one or two seasons. Same with Reinhart which QHs doesn’t quite match up with yet. There have been a lot of Canucks in 50 years. It depends how you measure top 50. 50 best players. 50 best careers. 50 best Canuck careers. Under 50 best players to suit up. I'm nominating Hughes. EP should be up there too. Let's swap out Odjick and Williams, Fan favorites but top 50? I beg to differ. On Tallon, I've been a fan since day 1 but I didn't live near enough to attend games and back in the day, we saw them only a couple of times a year on HNIC. We got 1 game a week and it was usually the Leafs or the Habs so we saw the Blackhawks and Bruins as their opponents more than the Canucks. I never saw him play much. Wa wa waaaaaa..... So for Tallon, he has some good stats as a Canuck over 3 seasons but he shall for ever be in the shadow of Gilbert Perrault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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