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[Official] NHL Return To Play Thread (24 team play off, 15 team draft lottery)

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32 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said:

I'd still prefer Ferland take the rest of the year off for his long term health. 

Personally I'm leaning towards him hanging em up.  He has to play a certain way to be effective and another concussion is a matter of time with that style.  But he is an adult and can make his own decision; I didn't appreciate Gillis making that call for Malhotra and I would be a hypocrite if I suggested the Canucks should do the same for Ferland.

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@mll do you know how the draft lotto rankings will work? if we lost to Minni, are we then in 11th spot?

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1 hour ago, Jimmy McGill said:

@mll do you know how the draft lotto rankings will work? if we lost to Minni, are we then in 11th spot?

picks 8 to 15 will be based on the point percentage of all the teams that had lost in the play-in round.  Depending on the outcome of the other 7 play-in games, if the Canucks lost they could be picking from 9 to 13.

Of the 16 teams in the play-in the Canucks have the 9th best point percentage.  Depending on the the outcome of the 1st phase of the lottery draft held June 26th, one or up to three of the losing play-in teams could potentially have a top 3 pick.  Here is a link that explains this better.

 

https://www.nhl.com/news/2020-nhl-draft-lottery-procedure/c-317026602

 

 

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7 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said:

@mll do you know how the draft lotto rankings will work? if we lost to Minni, are we then in 11th spot?

They rank on point percentage and use wins in regular time as tie-breaker.  After the play-ins they'll just rank 8-15 the 8 teams that have lost.   

 

Each of those teams have an equal chance (1/8th ie 12.5%) of moving up if the standard lottery on June 26 is won by placeholders 8-15th rather than the 7 teams already eliminated.

 

Other than that possible 2nd lottery, the Calgary-Winnipeg play-ins is the outcome that won't impact the Canucks' ranking.  TOR-CBJ and FLA-NYI will pick after the Canucks save for a lottery win.  All the other play-ins could see Vancouver move up a spot if the better ranked team lost.   

 

Canucks are picking 13th if the order is respected.  MTL CHI ARI WPG/CGY NYR and then Vancouver.  One of those teams win (other than WPG/CGY) and Canucks move up.  Match-ups shown by colour:

 

Montreal Canadiens   12   .500                Pittsburgh

Chicago Blackhawks   12   .514               Edmonton

Arizona Coyotes   11   .529                       Nashville

Minnesota Wild   10   .558                        Vancouver

Winnipeg Jets   9   .563                             Calgary               

        Calgary Flames   8   .564                   Winnipeg

New York Rangers   11   .564                    Carolina

         Vancouver Canucks   7   .565          Minnesota

         Nashville Predators   6   .565           Arizona

Florida Panthers   10   .565                       NYI

Columbus Blue Jackets   9   .579            Toronto

         Toronto Maple Leafs   8   .579        Columbus

         Edmonton Oilers   5   .585               Chicago

         New York Islanders   7   .588           Florida

         Carolina Hurricanes   6   .596          NYR

         Pittsburgh Penguins   5   .623         Montreal

 

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On 5/29/2020 at 6:35 PM, Ghostsof1915 said:

So there's either going to have to be compliance buyouts, or rollbacks on salaries, or combination of both.

Or a paycut for 3 years, then a lump sum of the difference on year 4, that is not effecting escrow or salary cap.

Or, more likely, they just crank up the escrow to account for the lost revenue.

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On 5/31/2020 at 7:01 PM, mll said:

They rank on point percentage and use wins in regular time as tie-breaker.  After the play-ins they'll just rank 8-15 the 8 teams that have lost.   

 

Each of those teams have an equal chance (1/8th ie 12.5%) of moving up if the standard lottery on June 26 is won by placeholders 8-15th rather than the 7 teams already eliminated.

 

Other than that possible 2nd lottery, the Calgary-Winnipeg play-ins is the outcome that won't impact the Canucks' ranking.  TOR-CBJ and FLA-NYI will pick after the Canucks save for a lottery win.  All the other play-ins could see Vancouver move up a spot if the better ranked team lost.   

 

Canucks are picking 13th if the order is respected.  MTL CHI ARI WPG/CGY NYR and then Vancouver.  One of those teams win (other than WPG/CGY) and Canucks move up.  Match-ups shown by colour:

 

Montreal Canadiens   12   .500                Pittsburgh

Chicago Blackhawks   12   .514               Edmonton

Arizona Coyotes   11   .529                       Nashville

Minnesota Wild   10   .558                        Vancouver

Winnipeg Jets   9   .563                             Calgary               

        Calgary Flames   8   .564                   Winnipeg

New York Rangers   11   .564                    Carolina

         Vancouver Canucks   7   .565          Minnesota

         Nashville Predators   6   .565           Arizona

Florida Panthers   10   .565                       NYI

Columbus Blue Jackets   9   .579            Toronto

         Toronto Maple Leafs   8   .579        Columbus

         Edmonton Oilers   5   .585               Chicago

         New York Islanders   7   .588           Florida

         Carolina Hurricanes   6   .596          NYR

         Pittsburgh Penguins   5   .623         Montreal

 

so, in Lotto 1 there are 7 eliminated teams + 8 blanks?

and If one of those blankes were to win 1 OA

then there is a second Lotto with all 8 teams that fail to advance into the round of 16, and all 8 of those teams have a 12.5 % (equal ) chance at the 1st OA pick?

 

Is that how it works?

 

And if 2 Blanks pick top 3,

there is a 3rd lotto for the second top 3 pick?

 

and if all 3 top 3 picks are blanks,

there will be a 4th Lotto for the 3rd pick?

 

 

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3 minutes ago, lmm said:

so, in Lotto 1 there are 7 eliminated teams + 8 blanks?

and If one of those blankes were to win 1 OA

then there is a second Lotto with all 8 teams that fail to advance into the round of 16, and all 8 of those teams have a 12.5 % (equal ) chance at the 1st OA pick?

 

Is that how it works?

 

And if 2 Blanks pick top 3,

there is a 3rd lotto for the second top 3 pick?

 

and if all 3 top 3 picks are blanks,

there will be a 4th Lotto for the 3rd pick?

 

 

Yea. So if one lotto is won by a blank team, then all eliminated play-in teams have a 12.5% chance of being the team that gets the lotto pick. 

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1 minute ago, DontMessMe said:

Yea. So if one lotto is won by a blank team, then all eliminated play-in teams have a 12.5% chance of being the team that gets the lotto pick. 

I predict Pittsburg win 1 OA

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3 hours ago, goalie13 said:

Or, more likely, they just crank up the escrow to account for the lost revenue.

Will the NHLPA be ok with that? I guess there's probably not much of a choice.

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So many chances for this to go wrong, it has to be right!

 

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1 hour ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

Will the NHLPA be ok with that? I guess there's probably not much of a choice.

That's the thing.  It's basically just a formula.

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6 hours ago, lmm said:

I predict Pittsburg win 1 OA

WRONG. No one can beat Taylor Hall at lotteries :)

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1 minute ago, DontMessMe said:

WRONG. No one can beat Taylor Hall at lotteries :)

I don't get it

Is aTaylor Hall lucky or something?

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Just now, lmm said:

I don't get it

Is aTaylor Hall lucky or something?

LOL he wins alot of draft lotteries :) 

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Just now, DontMessMe said:

LOL he wins alot of draft lotteries :) 

ohh ya he repped NJ didn't he

 

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Posted (edited)
14 hours ago, debluvscanucks said:

 

So if we start on July 1 approx, then we'll go till early Sept with four 7 game rounds and one 5 game round.

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