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Good on Green, love him as our coach - Benning..... not so much.  

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I noticed Green was packing on the pounds, so good to hear he's lost some weight. I'm always a bit sad when former athletes let themselves go.

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30 minutes ago, c00kies said:

Well it's a good thing Benning isn't our coach then :P 

wish i could up vote you twice...well played!

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zone entry is the system that requires the most improvement....I've said it 100 times, the use of the attack triangle allows for a puck possession game because it is a simple but effective system, it allows players to read and react to the play...simply, the puck is moved wide coming over the blue line with speed and the triangle is set up by having a player trailing and another going for the net. Once set up, so many different passing plays and chances can be made.

 

More often than not, when the attack triangle is set up, there is a very good scoring chance created. Dallas Stars use this system a lot ....the Canucks have started using this system the last dozen games with success....Miller, Pettersson, JV, Horvat, Toffoli all have scored by setting up the attack triangle.

 

Furthermore, because it is simple to set up and easy to react to and know where every player is on the ice, it can be executed with speed, which makes it difficult to defend (especially when there is an odd man rush.... 3 on 2, 4 on 3, etc.)

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1 hour ago, c00kies said:

Well it's a good thing Benning isn't our coach then :P 

He's not much of a GM either

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4 hours ago, wildcam said:

Travis Green has been working hard lost 20lbs, says he has been talking to players over phone, hopes they come back in shape..

This shouldn't be an issue - players should absolutely be in shape and the coaching staff should not have to 'hope' they come prepared.   For how much they are compensated, and how much the franchise invests in them they should be required to maintain certain fitness levels - yes, I understand things are different wt covid, and nobody is expecting 'game shape' but Green should know his guys are in shape, not hope they are. 

 

Ok, I'll get off my soapbox now.  Enjoy the weekend everyone. 

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2 hours ago, Chronic.Canucks.Fan said:

Yep, how dare he add Miller and Toffoli to the roster in addition to Pearson, Myers, Roussel. At the exorbitant cost of Gudbranson, 1st, 2nd, Madden, and some available cap space.

 

Real terrible position he put us in there.

 

Especially when you factor in that he's given us an awful, unspectacular, unremarkable pipeline of youth at all positions looking forward to the next 5 years. (Podkolzin, Hoglander, Lind, Woo, Rathbone, Juolevi, Rafferty, DiPietro...)

 

Can't wait until he's fired and the next GM can get rid of all those bums on our roster that he drafted. (Pettersson, Hughes, Boeser, Gaudette, Demko, Virtanen..

How dare he!  But what about the picks? Ha ha.  JB has proven that he’s at worst an average NHL GM. 

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13 minutes ago, IBatch said:

How dare he!  But what about the picks? Ha ha.  JB has proven that he’s at worst an average NHL GM. 

Petey  Hughes boeser gaudette demko virtanen  proves that hes way above average in drafting young talent with  macewen tryamkin lind lockwood brisebois juolevi podzolkin hoglander dipietro all pushing for spots in next 2 yrs   remember when  shinkaruk hutton horvat and gaunce were our only prospects. Seems to me that's a great turn around

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1 hour ago, canuktravella said:

Petey  Hughes boeser gaudette demko virtanen  proves that hes way above average in drafting young talent with  macewen tryamkin lind lockwood brisebois juolevi podzolkin hoglander dipietro all pushing for spots in next 2 yrs   remember when  shinkaruk hutton horvat and gaunce were our only prospects. Seems to me that's a great turn around

He definitely would have been "king of the draft" if he had taken Tkachuk....but credit where it is due, he has improved at picking players in the 1st round after he passed on MT.

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31 minutes ago, Pete M said:

He definitely would have been "king of the draft" if he had taken Tkachuk....but credit where it is due, he has improved at picking players in the 1st round after he passed on MT.

 ya  but juolevi can still have a good career dmen breakout later  if hes a decent top 4 dman im happy 

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2 hours ago, canuktravella said:

Petey  Hughes boeser gaudette demko virtanen  proves that hes way above average in drafting young talent with  macewen tryamkin lind lockwood brisebois juolevi podzolkin hoglander dipietro all pushing for spots in next 2 yrs   remember when  shinkaruk hutton horvat and gaunce were our only prospects. Seems to me that's a great turn around

Think you’ve missed the point...but since drafting is the topic...  Factually he’s an above average drafter compared to other teams - moved up four spots ADP (average draft position) the past five years based on the quality of 21 and unders on the team and in the pool - from 7th average drafting spot up to the third best group.   Could be a lot worse (EDM stunk for years because outside their first rounders nothing else at all to talk about, at least it didn’t help their cause)....but nothing like TB for example who’s drafting close to 30 and ranked in the top ten.  That’s way above average exceptional drafting, Boston has done great too.   However it does place him firmly in the top third just by moving up four spots, and heck won’t see me complaining...the best teams usually start with the best 22-23 and under groups and I’ll take top three anyday.   Time will truly tell how good we’ve done..

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11 hours ago, canuktravella said:

 ya  but juolevi can still have a good career dmen breakout later  if hes a decent top 4 dman im happy 

 

Sure, Juolevi might but Quinn Hughes himself shows how quickly a top D prospect gets into the league.

 

Juolevi is a project at this point.  And the defenses of his development are sounding a little more Nicklas Jensen-like as the years go by.  Sure, he could pull it out of the fire and he's looking solid in the AHL but he is definitely way way way behind schedule.

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12 hours ago, Pete M said:

He definitely would have been "king of the draft" if he had taken Tkachuk....but credit where it is due, he has improved at picking players in the 1st round after he passed on MT.

Absolutely.... the only thing is had MT played his rookie year with us every draft after that would have been different...maybe no EP and probably no Hughes for sure... will take it as a lucky for us moment.   OJ still might make the league and play 500-700 games for us which would make it one of the more accidentally on purpose or luck or whatever moments in our draft history.    I’d agree with your comment though - if we had MT and the same other guys it would be set with our forward group for sure.

 

OJ didn’t awe this year in the AHL, not even close, but he wasn’t terrible either.   At this point I don’t have any expectations other then a depth player...top four is likely not going to happen at his age - but a bottom pairing injury call-up seems realistic.    If he does get it together and manage to win a spot and move up the lineup even better for us.   An Edler replacement is a big ask...if he manages that we are very well set up for the future. 

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1 hour ago, Kevin Biestra said:

 

Sure, Juolevi might but Quinn Hughes himself shows how quickly a top D prospect gets into the league.

 

Juolevi is a project at this point.  And the defenses of his development are sounding a little more Nicklas Jensen-like as the years go by.  Sure, he could pull it out of the fire and he's looking solid in the AHL but he is definitely way way way behind schedule.

Yep.   He sure is.  Crazy that out of that great Finnish junior team only Laine has managed to stick from that draft.   Bet OJ regrets his cocky remarks about the gym now, saying you can’t teach smarts and showing disdain for the gym, if he took it more seriously maybe his body wouldn’t have failed him as much.   Sure he’s a pro now as far as that is concerned and hope he’s working his butt off in the gym to gain the strength and durability he will need going forward.   Watching him live he was decent.  But Brisbois was obviously miles ahead as far as defense or the other side of the puck goes.  People need to temper their expectations.   He’s already considered one of the biggest busts the past 20 drafts on most lists. 

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17 minutes ago, IBatch said:

Yep.   He sure is.  Crazy that out of that great Finnish junior team only Laine has managed to stick from that draft.   Bet OJ regrets his cocky remarks about the gym now, saying you can’t teach smarts and showing disdain for the gym, if he took it more seriously maybe his body wouldn’t have failed him as much.   Sure he’s a pro now as far as that is concerned and hope he’s working his butt off in the gym to gain the strength and durability he will need going forward.   Watching him live he was decent.  But Brisbois was obviously miles ahead as far as defense or the other side of the puck goes.  People need to temper their expectations.   He’s already considered one of the biggest busts the past 20 drafts on most lists. 

 

Seems like Rafferty has scooted ahead of him too.  And while mini-Subban kind of flamed out...Juolevi hasn't really done anything that he didn't do either.

 

It's gotta be sink or swim time in the big leagues for the guy soon.  Canucks should just have him move in with Dave Babych.

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7 hours ago, Dumb Nuck said:

Fire Green!

 

7 hours ago, Dumb Nuck said:

Fire Green!

What did Green do wrong? Coach Green was hired to take over coaching duties of the 28th place team in the league???????

It takes time to get your players on board and teach  new systems ..

You cannot judge Green on his first 2 years.. Green is doing a fine job and with the roster he has to coach now, things are getting very exciting..

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