Pete M Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Some players play better when they play with highly talented, skilled and smart players because they are smart hockey players...OJ already has proven he can play very well with highly talented, skilled and smart hockey players when he played on the Finnish national team and with the London Knights...he just needs to get on the Canuck roster to prove his worth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted June 27, 2020 Author Share Posted June 27, 2020 18 hours ago, Chronic.Canucks.Fan said: Yep, how dare he add Miller and Toffoli to the roster in addition to Pearson, Myers, Roussel. At the exorbitant cost of Gudbranson, 1st, 2nd, Madden, and some available cap space. Real terrible position he put us in there. Especially when you factor in that he's given us an awful, unspectacular, unremarkable pipeline of youth at all positions looking forward to the next 5 years. (Podkolzin, Hoglander, Lind, Woo, Rathbone, Juolevi, Rafferty, DiPietro...) Can't wait until he's fired and the next GM can get rid of all those bums on our roster that he drafted. (Pettersson, Hughes, Boeser, Gaudette, Demko, Virtanen...) You will always have some pathetic fans that will go on about nothing.. Real hockey fans know Jim Benning has done a very good job........ When Benning took over young talent under 23 was Horvat and Gaunce...We had no depth and no young prospects.... Now he has, Petey , Hughes, Boser, Demko, Podkolzin,Virtanen, MacEwen,Lind, Jasek, Hoglander, Juolevi, Dipietro, Rathbone, Briesbois, Woo, Gadjovich, Lockwood, Kielly G, Silovs G.. Jim has done a very good job and he has turned the corner..This Vancouver team is now a playoff team.We still have to make some changes.. Need a top # 2 D man like Risto from Buffalo, 25, 6'4 - 25 min guy would be great with Hughes.. Thanks Jim Benning...Go Canucks Go! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 15 minutes ago, Pete M said: Some players play better when they play with highly talented, skilled and smart players because they are smart hockey players...OJ already has proven he can play very well with highly talented, skilled and smart hockey players when he played on the Finnish national team and with the London Knights...he just needs to get on the Canuck roster to prove his worth. It has been said that OJ is 100% healthy and fit which is something that couldn't be said for years. It was also said that he has a good attitude wrt fitness and preparation. In his D+1 year, I think he figured he was a shoe in and didn't prepare properly so that year was underwhelming. This happens to some high draft picks. Character issue? Maybe....same happened to Virtanen the year he was sent down to Utica to work with Green. KIds have to reconcile expectations with reality. And then came the injuries. No excuses any more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 13 minutes ago, Crabcakes said: No excuses any more Not excuses, but reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted June 27, 2020 Author Share Posted June 27, 2020 3 hours ago, wildcam said: You will always have some pathetic fans that will go on about nothing.. Real hockey fans know Jim Benning has done a very good job........ When Benning took over young talent under 23 was Horvat and Gaunce...We had no depth and no young prospects.... Now he has, Petey , Hughes, Boser, Demko, Podkolzin,Virtanen, MacEwen,Lind, Jasek, Hoglander, Juolevi, Dipietro, Rathbone, Briesbois, Woo, Gadjovich, Lockwood, Kielly G, Silovs G.. Jim has done a very good job and he has turned the corner..This Vancouver team is now a playoff team.We still have to make some changes.. Need a top # 2 D man like Risto from Buffalo, 25, 6'4 - 25 min guy would be great with Hughes.. Thanks Jim Benning...Go Canucks Go! Sorry was suppose to be attached with one of the negative posts..Attached to wrong post... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the grinder Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 On 6/26/2020 at 11:47 AM, Tre Mac said: He's not much of a GM either lol One of the first things GMJB did was hire Green to run Utica and you even said you like Green as a coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 20 hours ago, Pete M said: He definitely would have been "king of the draft" if he had taken Tkachuk....but credit where it is due, he has improved at picking players in the 1st round after he passed on MT. but if he had would we have missed on Pete, Hughes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, hammertime said: but if he had would we have missed on Pete, Hughes? If Gillis had left Benning more to work with (eg., even just average drafting by his management), the Canucks would've finished higher in the standings and likely wouldn't have been able to draft EP at 6th overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumb Nuck Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 9 hours ago, wildcam said: What did Green do wrong? Coach Green was hired to take over coaching duties of the 28th place team in the league??????? It takes time to get your players on board and teach new systems .. You cannot judge Green on his first 2 years.. Green is doing a fine job and with the roster he has to coach now, things are getting very exciting.. Green was hired to save money, time to get coach with some experience so our players can get some experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Only 7 current coaches have more time served with their team than Green. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NHL_head_coaches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Nuckle Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 On 6/26/2020 at 12:38 PM, Pete M said: zone entry is the system that requires the most improvement....I've said it 100 times, the use of the attack triangle allows for a puck possession game because it is a simple but effective system, it allows players to read and react to the play...simply, the puck is moved wide coming over the blue line with speed and the triangle is set up by having a player trailing and another going for the net. Once set up, so many different passing plays and chances can be made. More often than not, when the attack triangle is set up, there is a very good scoring chance created. Dallas Stars use this system a lot ....the Canucks have started using this system the last dozen games with success....Miller, Pettersson, JV, Horvat, Toffoli all have scored by setting up the attack triangle. Furthermore, because it is simple to set up and easy to react to and know where every player is on the ice, it can be executed with speed, which makes it difficult to defend (especially when there is an odd man rush.... 3 on 2, 4 on 3, etc.) "I watched 'The Last Dance' and now I am a system expert. Triangle guys, triangle!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 6 hours ago, hammertime said: but if he had would we have missed on Pete, Hughes? bird in hand is more certain than 2 in the bush... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumb Nuck Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, gurn said: Only 7 current coaches have more time served with their team than Green. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NHL_head_coaches Oddly enough every one of them has a better winning percentage. Actually every coach on that list has a better winning percentage with their current team and only 3 coaches have a worse career record and we’re supposed be OK with that with the talent we have? Time to get your heads out of the sand. Edited June 28, 2020 by Dumb Nuck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post IBatch Posted June 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 28, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Dumb Nuck said: Oddly enough every one of them has a better winning percentage. Actually every coach on that list has a better winning percentage with their current team and only 3 coaches have a worse career record and we’re supposed be OK with that with the talent we have? Time to get your heads out of the sand. That’s a “ dumb “ Nuck statement. A rebuilding team coach has a bad winning percentage to start his career imagine that. Green still doesn’t have an average NHL defense to work with - it’s close, but not there yet ... his first year was absolute trash. Team gets better and his winning percentage goes up go figure. You don’t fire a coach for overachieving. Edited June 28, 2020 by IBatch 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WeneedLumme Posted June 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 28, 2020 11 hours ago, Dumb Nuck said: Green was hired to save money, time to get coach with some experience so our players can get some experience. To save money??!! What an amazingly stupid statement, even for you. Do you have any facts or logic that support that nonsense? 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted June 28, 2020 Author Share Posted June 28, 2020 On June 26, 2020 at 11:47 AM, Tre Mac said: He's not much of a GM either Well I would say Benning has turned this team around now...Go look at the team he had we he took over as GM ???? He had no young prospects and no depth on team after the Sedins, Kesler and Burrows..... This is now a playoff team so not sure what hockey team your watching ? Canucks now come to play every night, very exciting, team can score 8th in league and future is bright.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenspear Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 8 hours ago, Dumb Nuck said: Oddly enough every one of them has a better winning percentage. Actually every coach on that list has a better winning percentage with their current team and only 3 coaches have a worse career record and we’re supposed be OK with that with the talent we have? Time to get your heads out of the sand. Team Year Regular season Postseason G W L OTL Pts Finish W L Win % Result VAN 2017–18 82 31 40 11 73 7th in Pacific — — — Missed playoffs VAN 2018–19 82 35 36 11 81 5th in Pacific — — — Missed playoffs VAN 2019–20 69 36 27 6 78 4th in Pacific — — — TBD Total 233 102 103 28 — — — Records contradict your spin on this. Rookie coach with a rebuilding team, can't expect a 60%+ win rate from the get go. Improvement every year is what I see. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 On 6/26/2020 at 9:28 AM, Tre Mac said: Good on Green, love him as our coach - Benning..... not so much. Still mad about Eriksson, Gagner, and Schaller or what? Lol. Benning has been a damn fine GM as far as I am concerned. He literally came into this team with fossils for players and one prospect worth a damn. That was Horvat. Our 2nd best prospect (Shinkaruk) was only worth a bottom 6 player. Benning had some growing pains early but this team is in a great position. The only real blemish is Eriksson, and maybe taking Juolevi over Tkachuk/Sergachev. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BertaNuck Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 57 minutes ago, N7Nucks said: Still mad about Eriksson, Gagner, and Schaller or what? Lol. Benning has been a damn fine GM as far as I am concerned. He literally came into this team with fossils for players and one prospect worth a damn. That was Horvat. Our 2nd best prospect (Shinkaruk) was only worth a bottom 6 player. Benning had some growing pains early but this team is in a great position. The only real blemish is Eriksson, and maybe taking Juolevi over Tkachuk/Sergachev. I believe benning has been doing great except eriksson but how do you predict that he would having fallen off the tracks in year one? but man it still stings on the tkachuck one, imagine where we would be Toffoli Petterson Miller Boeser Horvat tkachuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyHarry Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 at first i wasn't a Coach Green fan, but he's proven me wrong. he's doing a fine job. Glad to hear he lost weight , its saying the Team better be in Battle shape this Summer. Go Canucks Go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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