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1 hour ago, DeNiro said:

If people really have a problem with this then write your government officials. That’s who your beef is with. 


Virtanen wasn’t doing anything that Dr.Henry or the NHL has said are against the rules during this phase.

 

If you have a problem with it simply because it’s Virtanen, then you should check your bias.

Holy crap I think I just got a massive Kassian deja vu. :unsure:

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36 minutes ago, Pears said:

Hughes goes to eat at restaurants that can be pretty packed at times but you don’t hear any uproar over it. 

People need to eat.

 

People don't need to go to a club with scantily clad women prancing around.

 

 

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1 hour ago, DeNiro said:

Actually NHL players will be tested daily and before any contact with teammates. 
 

So he is less likely to spread it to teammates than the general public would be to coworkers.

The more NHL players that get the virus the more fear there will be among players and executives that could lead to the canceling of the season. 

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I don't have a problem with Jake going out for and evening with his buddies.  I haven't seen the video, so I have no idea if he was social distancing or not.  If that is an issue, then the club should be investigated for not applying the proper restrictions.  

 

 

I agree with Wildcam  regarding him being in shape and prepared for the playoffs though.

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21 minutes ago, coho8888 said:

People need to eat.

 

People don't need to go to a club with scantily clad women prancing around.

 

 

But again, he isn’t breaking any laws so I don’t see why people need to be so upset about it. 

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I got a warning once talking about JVs partying and off ice shenanigans.  I was told it was salacious gossip and would be an offence to speak of it.  This is when he was coming in out of shape. Is it cool now?  lol

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Wasnt it just some VAN celebrity meet and greet?  I saw the rules that were laid out-seemed responsible to me.  Jake is a young kid that wants to live his life.  Dont care if he wants to try and be social as long he isnt being reckless

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Jake and social media just doesn't mix very well.

 

Regardless of whether the criticisms he gets is justified or not, he tends to draw attention to himself through social media.  For a player that has had several narratives cloud around him this past season, he should just lay low on social media. 

 

People are out to get him which is pretty sad and pathetic, but he certainly doesn't do himself any favors.

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Any reports of him pumping weights, doing squats, running up hills, shooting targets with his wrist, snap and slap shots, skating sprints???

 

Need some balanced reporting here....ffs

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2 hours ago, DeNiro said:

If you think that no other young single players are going out to bars or clubs during this time you are sadly mistaken.

 

People are jumping on him because of his past and nothing else. If this were Boeser or Hughes no one would even bat an eye. That’s where the hypocrisy comes in.

 

He will be tested well before he comes in contact with teammates. If he got infected well then he will quarantine for two weeks like any one else. 
 

I guess we should assume every player that tests positive for Covid was being irresponsible too.

if it was Petterson, Boeser or Hughes  going to  bars or clubs, i am sure there would have been videos of it out there, but since there isn't,  well....

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2 minutes ago, bree2 said:

if it was Petterson, Boeser or Hughes  going to  bars or clubs, i am sure there would have been videos of it out there, but since there isn't,  well....

Oh I can guarantee you if it was either of those three the uproar would be minimal if not non-existent. It’s only a story because it’s Virtanen. 

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2 hours ago, DeNiro said:

Actually NHL players will be tested daily and before any contact with teammates. 
 

So he is less likely to spread it to teammates than the general public would be to coworkers.

The team is already skating together and the daily testing isn’t a rule yet.

 

Testing is also not that accurate early in the virus when you are already contagious... 20% false negatives. (Keeping in mind 50% false results is as bad as you can get since that is just random).

 

He can have the virus, get tested with negative results, and pass on the virus for days before testing positive.

 

Now is the time to be bearing down and not taking unnecessary risks... he hasn’t had to practice or skate for months.

 

On top of all the virus stuff, if Miller is sene out partying... it is fine, he shows up on the ice every day.  Virtanen has struggled for 5 years with not showing up on the ice regularly and being unprepared.  
 

I don’t recall all the shots of our other going players out partying.

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56 minutes ago, Pears said:

But again, he isn’t breaking any laws so I don’t see why people need to be so upset about it. 

didn't say he broke the law.  Just made a poor choice

 

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5 minutes ago, Pears said:

Oh I can guarantee you if it was either of those three the uproar would be minimal if not non-existent. It’s only a story because it’s Virtanen. 

sorry i don't buy that,  Jake  has been in this league for 5 years and it is time he grew up.  and it would actually cause more of a uproar because they are stars.

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4 minutes ago, Provost said:

The team is already skating together and the daily testing isn’t a rule yet.

 

Testing is also not that accurate early in the virus when you are already contagious... 20% false negatives. (Keeping in mind 50% false results is as bad as you can get since that is just random).

 

He can have the virus, get tested with negative results, and pass on the virus for days before testing positive.

 

Now is the time to be bearing down and not taking unnecessary risks... he hasn’t had to practice or skate for months.

 

On top of all the virus stuff, if Miller is sene out partying... it is fine, he shows up on the ice every day.  Virtanen has struggled for 5 years with not showing up on the ice regularly and being unprepared.  
 

I don’t recall all the shots of our other going players out partying.

nope.  other players are doing this:

 

https://www.nhl.com/canucks/news/vancouver-canucks-canucks-report/c-317302768

 

Don't think Jake has joined the team yet even though he didn't have to travel thousands of miles to get here.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Screw said:

I got a warning once talking about JVs partying and off ice shenanigans.  I was told it was salacious gossip and would be an offence to speak of it.  This is when he was coming in our of shape. Is it cool now?  lol

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28 minutes ago, Pears said:

Oh I can guarantee you if it was either of those three the uproar would be minimal if not non-existent. It’s only a story because it’s Virtanen. 

I don't believe this for a second.

 

The issue isn't "Jake"....it's what Jake did.  And any player not observing social distancing/mask wearing in public would be putting the rest of the team/league/season at risk.  So your guarantee really means nothing.  And it's a deflection to say "if so and so did" because, well....they didn't.

 

The uproar is that this return, like any these days, is being delicately handled for a reason.  People's lives depend on it.   So anyone not buying in to protocol (which, according to our health officials is to continue to observe social distancing and wear and mask when that's not possible) will be scrutinized.

Hockey isn't back yet and what these players do may impact that.  So a decision that someone makes outside of hockey also could be brought back TO hockey.

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Jake didn't break any laws but still, with the team preparing to get back to play, everyone on the team is going to have to be able to trust one another to minimize risk of exposure to COVID.  It's totally fair for teammates to be concerned.

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