WCF: (1) Vegas Golden Knights vs. (3) Dallas Stars | Stars win series 4-1

[amplified0ne]

1 hour ago, Jaimito said:

the sword through MAF did it. 

 

Add the MAF curse if and when he gets traded

[aliboy]

So glad Vegas is out. I like to think we made them look beatable.

 

[SergioMomesso]

I can’t wait for more Ryan Reaves specials on SportsNet. The guy is a complete joke. 

[HorvatToBaertschi]

We gutted them, Dallas finished off an easy opponent. Change my mind.

[Nuxfanabroad]

Is there a Glass-ceiling? Used to joke about that in the 2017 EP/Glass debates. Thank the puckGawds we chose well there! But some Vegas' highly touted picks have certainly had their stumbles.

 

-Then, how many picks did they squander before Tartar quickly soured?

- Pax Macciorrety?! Didn't seem to do much for sniping. He makes a LOT too. Didn't they spend a tidy sum in youth to the Habbies? That Suzuki ain't looking tooo shabby, eh?

- Stone is a great player, yeah. But the mileage is adding up, & he wasn't too fleet to begin with. There's 9.5 mill x eternity. Glad we didn't pick up a vet(like him) & get committed for yrs to such a number.

- Then De-bore made Fleury a pincushion. They might have some question marks in the blue paint now too?

 

For all of the ED youth/draft capital the riggeddeckleague GIFTed SinCity, they sure have spent it like a drunken sailor at a crooked Casino!

 

Fools & their $ 650 mill go their separate ways. Love it!

[DownUndaCanuck]

The only difference betwern Dallas snd Vancouver has been depth scoring, a PP that scores when it matters and physical big boys on the top line.

 

While we can't change how big and strong Petey is, Miller can certainly play with more grit the way Benn is and I'm fine with our top line.

 

We had no contributions from our bottom 6 jn the last few games where literally just 1 goal would have made the difference.

 

Most importantly is that PP. 5 minute major and we should have won Game 7. Meanwhile, Dallas get 2 late powerplays and score on them both to take them to the Cup finals.

 

Apart from that, our team is very similar to Dallas. Both have solid scoring lines, our goalies are much better and defences are very similar (one solid PMD and strong physical defensive defencemen).

 

JB just needs to tweak our team and we'll be there soon enough. I think also having guys like Perry and Pavelski in their lineup really helps in the locker room more than on the ice when it comes to these situations. 

[Nuxfanabroad]

1 minute ago, DownUndaCanuck said:

The only difference betwern Dallas snd Vancouver has been depth scoring, a PP that scores when it matters and physical big boys on the top line.

 

While we can't change how big and strong Petey is, Miller can certainly play with more grit the way Benn is and I'm fine with our top line.

 

We had no contributions from our bottom 6 jn the last few games where literally just 1 goal would have made the difference.

 

Most importantly is that PP. 5 minute major and we should have won Game 7. Meanwhile, Dallas get 2 late powerplays and score on them both to take them to the Cup finals.

 

Apart from that, our team is very similar to Dallas. Both have solid scoring lines, our goalies are much better and defences are very similar (one solid PMD and strong physical defensive defencemen).

 

JB just needs to tweak our team and we'll be there soon enough. I think also having guys like Perry and Pavelski in their lineup really helps in the locker room more than on the ice when it comes to these situations. 

Good analysis, & agreed Dall & Van aren't far apart.

[nuckin_futz]

On 9/4/2020 at 9:29 PM, nuckin_futz said:

Go Dallas.

 

Then lose to whoever comes out of the east.

 

 

 

 

[PhillipBlunt]

5 minutes ago, nuckin_futz said:

 

 

[theo5789]

49 minutes ago, HorvatToBaertschi said:

We gutted them, Dallas finished off an easy opponent. Change my mind.

If Vegas beat us in 5, this would be a whole different series. We took them to 7 and definitely took a bit out of them (maybe tired from 500 shot attempts lol).

 

With that said, Dallas was always a good team and I'm not sure why many had underestimated them in the first place.

[PetterssonOrPeterson]

I'm happy for Rick Bowness. Always admired him during his time here.

 

Glad we have a bit of a Canuck connection with Dallas and they were able to finish off the Knights 

[HorvatToBaertschi]

23 minutes ago, theo5789 said:

If Vegas beat us in 5, this would be a whole different series. We took them to 7 and definitely took a bit out of them (maybe tired from 500 shot attempts lol).

 

With that said, Dallas was always a good team and I'm not sure why many had underestimated them in the first place.

Starting a season 1-7-2 and having your GM and owner saying that your 2 star players aren't winners must have something to do with that.

[alt kilgore]

3 hours ago, DeNiro said:

Or maybe the Knights emptied the tank against us.

 

They played us hard and we didn’t give it to them easy.

Definitely, that too. They were mentally exhausted from Petey's wizardry.

But our inability to exit our own zone bit us in the arse too many times

[nuckin_futz]

8 minutes ago, kilgore said:

 

But our inability to exit our own zone bit us in the arse too many times

Took us 50 years to get a Quinn Hughes and now we need another one.

[iinatcc]

Man I can't help but feel Vancouver could have beaten Dallas if Vancouver just won game 7.

[iinatcc]

40 minutes ago, HorvatToBaertschi said:

Starting a season 1-7-2 and having your GM and owner saying that your 2 star players aren't winners must have something to do with that.

Seems like Seguin points totals this playoffs have been underwhelming to be fair. But then I think Miro Heiskanen is going to be the team's best (and star) player moving forward.

 

Also I think it's safe to say if The Stars win the cup Miro Heiskanen is going to win the Conn Smythe.

[iinatcc]

Speaking of Miro Heiskanen why did people consider his draft year as a weak year?

 

It's only been 3 years and Miro Heiskanen, Cale Makar, and Elias Petterson are already star players and Nick Suzuki looks like he could be one too. Add that Nico Hischer looks like he's going to be a very good Top 6 center. Robert Thomas and Kailer Yamamoto also shows a lot of promise.  

Edited September 15, 2020 by iinatcc

[mll]

2 hours ago, DownUndaCanuck said:

The only difference betwern Dallas snd Vancouver has been depth scoring, a PP that scores when it matters and physical big boys on the top line.

 

While we can't change how big and strong Petey is, Miller can certainly play with more grit the way Benn is and I'm fine with our top line.

 

We had no contributions from our bottom 6 jn the last few games where literally just 1 goal would have made the difference.

 

Most importantly is that PP. 5 minute major and we should have won Game 7. Meanwhile, Dallas get 2 late powerplays and score on them both to take them to the Cup finals.

 

Apart from that, our team is very similar to Dallas. Both have solid scoring lines, our goalies are much better and defences are very similar (one solid PMD and strong physical defensive defencemen).

 

JB just needs to tweak our team and we'll be there soon enough. I think also having guys like Perry and Pavelski in their lineup really helps in the locker room more than on the ice when it comes to these situations. 

 

Dallas allowed 40 goals less than Vancouver in the regular season but scored 46 less in the same amount of games.  Vegas is one of the best defensive teams in the league but has trouble scoring.  The Canucks have been terrible defensively by every advanced tracking system with Markstrom saving the day.  Kevin Woodley calls insane the idea that Khudobin could just be a Markstrom replacement because the environment they have operated in is so far from one another.  

 

I get the enthusiasm for Vancouver's future but I certainly hope Benning looks at the team objectively.  The defense needs work whether it's system and/or personnel.  

 

Edited September 15, 2020 by mll

[Coconuts]

2 hours ago, DownUndaCanuck said:

The only difference betwern Dallas snd Vancouver has been depth scoring, a PP that scores when it matters and physical big boys on the top line.

 

While we can't change how big and strong Petey is, Miller can certainly play with more grit the way Benn is and I'm fine with our top line.

 

We had no contributions from our bottom 6 jn the last few games where literally just 1 goal would have made the difference.

 

Most importantly is that PP. 5 minute major and we should have won Game 7. Meanwhile, Dallas get 2 late powerplays and score on them both to take them to the Cup finals.

 

Apart from that, our team is very similar to Dallas. Both have solid scoring lines, our goalies are much better and defences are very similar (one solid PMD and strong physical defensive defencemen).

 

JB just needs to tweak our team and we'll be there soon enough. I think also having guys like Perry and Pavelski in their lineup really helps in the locker room more than on the ice when it comes to these situations. 

Pretty spot on, but I'd argue that Dallas has two solid PMD in Klingberg and Heiskanen. It makes them very dangerous from the back end, makes you wonder what we'd be like if Hughes had a bit more offensive support back there with him. 

[DownUndaCanuck]

34 minutes ago, Coconuts said:

Pretty spot on, but I'd argue that Dallas has two solid PMD in Klingberg and Heiskanen. It makes them very dangerous from the back end, makes you wonder what we'd be like if Hughes had a bit more offensive support back there with him. 

Agreed, it does help having two top-4 units who are basically the same. Obviously Heiskanen is the equivalent to our Hughes (if not arguably better offensively and defensively) but we do lack someone like Klingberg. 

 

That's where someone like Rafferty or Juolevi could really impact this defence, but we don't want to get too carried away with offence. Edler and Myers have really taken a step back offensively and skating-wise, but it'd be nice to throw one of the kids up in the mix if they can handle 20 minutes in a year or two's time.