IBatch Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 2 hours ago, iinatcc said: The looming Canuck curse happens Flat Cap due to Covid Luongo recapture penalty still in the books Seattle Expansion draft All came in a perfect storm for Vancouver to have a hard time re-signing, extending, and signing players. Sucks for sure. But at least it sucks equally (well ok Luongo blows) for all teams. Looking at TB they are really in the mud with Sergachev and Cernak to re-up, and nobody to trade except Kilorn to help with that - and he’s a cap dump do sure with a modified NTC. Plus IF they manage to sign both Cernak and Sergachev then they will likely have to choose one of them to trade as they then stand to lose one for nothing to Seattle (it’s possible they expose McDonagh but whether Seattle takes him at almost 7 per is another matter). Can’t feel sorry for them given they might or probably will win the cup WITHOUT Stamkos...but it sure could be a lot worse for us. Reminds me of Wilson saying “if you don’t have cap problems your not trying hard enough”. Can say JB has tried hard enough but could try harder too ha ha. And if without Covid and TT we really don’t have much cap issues. JB said we don’t. What he does this year and next off-season will both become his legacy and set most of our core in place for the next decade or so. Love this new core - special things are for sure coming in our future. Id either sign TT and Tanev or sign JM and let the rest go and start working on our D. Team needs a one year re-set. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumb Nuck Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Coaching 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeena1 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 The wrong announcers calling the playoff games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckleHorse Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Covid because now we are stuck wasting our time with Green for another season he’s this eras Dan Cloutier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt kilgore Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 (edited) . Final nail for Jake. We were all hoping that when push came to shove, the playoffs, he'd start to push and shove more. . Gaudette's invisibility in the playoffs. This one is a puzzler. Maybe a nagging injury? - Our crippling inability to simply move the puck out of our D zone at times. Especially true against Vegas. Hard to remember another team that is so guilty of fighting to get the puck possession back and then, sometimes even directly, just giving it back to the opposition. Way too many times. The defensive strategies Baumgartner coaches is not working. - Letting go of Judd Brackett. The amateur scouting chief that was at the helm when drafting Petey and Hughes explicitly removed from the management team for petty reasons - Not sighing Tryamkin for next season. At worst he is average in skill. But add to that his reach, and his intimidating size, and skating ability, he could have been a cheaper version of Myers2.0, but even bigger by 34 lbs. (NHL.com). Wouldn't have been a big hit on our cap problems. - Loui Loui Loui Louieeeeee, Loui Loui Loui Louaaaaaaah!!!!. Not retiring. I hope JB has the balls to send him down to Utica to ride busses. . . Edited September 30, 2020 by kilgore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yung1 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 On 9/27/2020 at 10:37 AM, 73 Percent said: In no specific order Loui being loui Ferland being as rugged as glass The power play inconsistency (1st unit drop pass zone entries) Gaudettes playoff performance DROP PASSES ARE AN EFFECTIVE WAY TO GAIN ENTRY INTO THE ZONE WITH POSSESSION WHEN THE OTHER TEAM IS TRAPPING AT THE BLUE LINE AS ALL TEAMS DO ON THE PK ALSO WE HAD THE 4TH RANKED PP RESPECT THE DROP PASS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 43 minutes ago, Yung1 said: DROP PASSES ARE AN EFFECTIVE WAY TO GAIN ENTRY INTO THE ZONE WITH POSSESSION WHEN THE OTHER TEAM IS TRAPPING AT THE BLUE LINE AS ALL TEAMS DO ON THE PK ALSO WE HAD THE 4TH RANKED PP RESPECT THE DROP PASS Dumping the puck in, and carrying it across the blue line, without dropping it back, are also effective ways to enter the zone. I'd like to see less drop pass and more of the other methods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Yung1 said: DROP PASSES ARE AN EFFECTIVE WAY TO GAIN ENTRY INTO THE ZONE WITH POSSESSION WHEN THE OTHER TEAM IS TRAPPING AT THE BLUE LINE AS ALL TEAMS DO ON THE PK ALSO WE HAD THE 4TH RANKED PP RESPECT THE DROP PASS Turn your caps off grandpa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EP Phone Home Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 The absolute worst thing was when I was listening on the radio on SN650 having to hear that bloody annoying Jazz music on every single Volvo commercial that came on. That music is a good way to torture ones sanity. Scott Rintoul better have some new tunes come the 2020/21 season my god! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt kilgore Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 3 hours ago, Yung1 said: DROP PASSES ARE AN EFFECTIVE WAY TO GAIN ENTRY INTO THE ZONE WITH POSSESSION WHEN THE OTHER TEAM IS TRAPPING AT THE BLUE LINE AS ALL TEAMS DO ON THE PK ALSO WE HAD THE 4TH RANKED PP RESPECT THE DROP PASS 2 hours ago, 73 Percent said: Turn your caps off grandpa RESPECT THE DROP PASS!!!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKNuck96 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 7 hours ago, Yung1 said: DROP PASSES ARE AN EFFECTIVE WAY TO GAIN ENTRY INTO THE ZONE WITH POSSESSION WHEN THE OTHER TEAM IS TRAPPING AT THE BLUE LINE AS ALL TEAMS DO ON THE PK ALSO WE HAD THE 4TH RANKED PP RESPECT THE DROP PASS Drop passes can be fine, but what the Canucks were doing was firing the puck back to their own blue line for a DMan to collect, so the issue of trapping at the blue line wasn’t resolved. Just the same issue different player. effective drop passes the puck barely moves but the second players speed and angle is against the movement of the opposition allowing them to cut through. Same reason why in rugby a fast runner cutting back across the angle breaks tackles easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yung1 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 everyone who disagrees about the drop pass is wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yung1 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, gurn said: Dumping the puck in, and carrying it across the blue line, without dropping it back, are also effective ways to enter the zone. I'd like to see less drop pass and more of the other methods. http://www.nhlspecialteams.com/blog/2016/3/5/which-specific-zone-entry-types-are-most-successful this article talks about how while dumps and chips to lead to higher rate of zone entry, they ultimately lead to less shots on goal than drop pass entries specifically. 37 minutes ago, UKNuck96 said: Drop passes can be fine, but what the Canucks were doing was firing the puck back to their own blue line for a DMan to collect, so the issue of trapping at the blue line wasn’t resolved. Just the same issue different player. effective drop passes the puck barely moves but the second players speed and angle is against the movement of the opposition allowing them to cut through. Same reason why in rugby a fast runner cutting back across the angle breaks tackles easier. The vast spacing between passer and receiver is intentional. Most PK's forecheck in some variation of a 1-3 formation. The idea is to force the "1" back to to blueline so that they can't direct the play. Once you have all 4 defenders backed up, the player receiving the drop pass can more easily pick their lane into the ozone. Edited October 1, 2020 by Yung1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB5 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 All in all this was a very positive year but there are a few things for sure; 1. It did seem like a lot of games some of the lines or defensive pairings couldn't regain the puck in their own zone and stop the cycle, we saw this in a large way against Vegas but it was a recurring theme. 2. Ferland, the guy you hate when you are playing against him- in all interviews as a Canuck he seems like a great guy and I was rooting for him. I hope he has done well with his money and do the right thing and retire. 3. Baertschi - He is a light player but also very skilled. I thought we should have used him more and drive up his value for a trade. Obviously the management and coaching staff must have known something that I don't. 4. Virtanen - I love the guy and think the talent is there. However Jake hasn't figured out how to be a pro even though he has good coaching and mentors there to help him. He still would have hit 20 goals in a full season but with Jake, you are left feeling that he can still do better than that. We likely have seen the last of Shotgun Jake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Team Defense. Marky had to bail us out way too many times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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