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Posted WHL rocks on 20 August 2012 - 03:01 AM
PPL become afraid to express them selves freely, they only write pots that would avoid them getting a minus rep. I found this to happen the last two times the minus button was around.
I think the whole rep thing is pointless, friends plus each others posts and ppl write clever one sentence posts just to get pluses. One could have a huge plus rating without ever posting a knowledgeable paragraph about hockey.
Posted Saved_by_Jesus on 18 August 2012 - 02:41 PM
I know that it won't do much, but I'm going to do whatever I can do personally to not condone this kind of bargaining tactic - I want both the NHL and NHLPA to stop taking the fans for granted and stop assuming that 'we'll be here no matter what'.
I'm going to stop supporting the NHL on September 15 (including visiting NHL.com and Canucks.com), and will do so for twice as long as the lockout elapses.
I know one person can't do much, but maybe if the parties were actually scared of losing fans, they might negotiate more "efficiently".
What do you think? Are you on board? Good idea? Bad idea?
Posted Smashian Kassian on 18 August 2012 - 04:53 PM
Posted Baggins on 16 August 2012 - 09:53 PM
I actually like the idea of having no cap, it would be great for us because we would be able to acquire a lot of great players. Sure there are a lot of negatives like overpaying for players by a lot, but teams would be at a more equal level (spending wise, unless your Phoenix or New Jersey).
So you preferred watching the Wings and Avs duke it out year after year for most of a decade? That's the problem with no cap. The teams willing to overspend are the ones competing year after year while the teams with a budget develop players for them. Might as well go back to a six team league and be done with it.
Posted Shift-4 on 16 August 2012 - 07:49 PM
Posted Moreton on 16 August 2012 - 11:48 AM
O - Often wont change after a long shift
V - Very old
A - Allstar, no more.
L - Lazy lazy lazy
E - Ego
V - Very soft.
That should cover it
Posted etsen3 on 15 August 2012 - 06:20 PM
Edler is probably the closest sincr already he's already an All-Star but I think there's a bit more potential for him once he gains veteran experience and consistency.
Also Schneider. The Canucks wouldn't keep him if they didn't think he had the potential to be a star goalie. If he keeps playing the way he has, he could be one of the top goalies in the league.
Out of our prospects who haven't fully cracked the lineup, Kassian is the only big name guy. I don't think the Canucks will be having any elite scorers on the level of Naslund or the Sedins any time soon. But if we're lucky some of our prospects could turn out to be "lesser" stars who can be part of our core and make an impact. You don't need elite players, Top 5 household name type players to win the Cup. For example the Kings have Brown, Richards, and Carter, as Kopitar. They may not Crosby or Stamkos or Malkin, but they're still stars. If we're lucky the Canucks have some guys who could be of similar value such as Kassian, Schroeder, and Jensen.
Posted Raiun on 14 August 2012 - 03:05 PM
We all saw what happened last playoffs. the Canucks not skilled enough or tough enough to hang with the big boys. Let's face it, even if we had beaten LA, other teams would not have been a cake walk either, which is what most of you were thinking at the time.
I suggest that we blow up the team and start fresh. Trade the twins and get the first and second round picks. Stockpile on talent as much as we can. Hire a strong scouting team to find us players that are NHL Ready, meaning that they will be drafted and play right away.
I'm tired of prospects, waiting to see if a player is "Nhl Ready". Look at Edmonton, they have a better future than us. They have good talent, good coaching staff and a great direction. In comparison, look at Calgary, they fluked out to the finals one year, and kept the majority of their players, thinking that by adding what was missing in their previous runs, they can compete again. How bad have they become now?
Sometimes you gotta face the music, and look at the mirror and say, this team is just not good enough. We have 3rd stringers playing on our first and second lines, and we have a coaching staff that refuses to play players that would help win games, rather cares too much about who he likes and does not like.
The lockout should be looked as a blessing for Canucks. It's time to realize what they have and what direction their going, because as of right now, the Canucks don't look very good on paper anymore.
Do you seriously feel like we weren't skilled enough to be in the playoffs last season? The playoffs I saw we were plenty skilled, just not big and tough enough to goon our way through, or survive being gooned.
Edmonton has no future other than being the NHL's farm team. They haven't accomplished anything with their young talented team other than being rock bottom for years in a row. Those players are going to abandon ship like crazy once they get the chance, and Edmonton won't be able to afford to keep them all. By contrast, we have skilled, proven NHL level players and the reason we don't use our prospects as much is because they may not be better than the players we already have. We don't have the luxury of slotting first overall picks directly into our lineup like Edmonton does (for the last three years)
You're right when you say we're not good enough. Weirdly enough that's why MG signed Garrison and is looking at some other players to round out the lineup a bit. We are a lot closer than you seem to think.
We haven't been at the bottom of the league, in fact, quite the opposite. I don't understand how you can think blowing up a league leading team and a proven contender team is a good idea. That's like saying "My sports car broke down, so I'm going to just trash it and buy a new one rather than buying some parts to fix it".
It's expensive and ridiculous and a waste of an otherwise perfectly good car.
Why not debate the man, instead of berate him? Valid opinion.
Posted Shift-4 on 14 August 2012 - 02:08 PM
Sounds more like you had chili because everything coming out of you really stinks
Posted Shift-4 on 11 April 2012 - 02:03 PM
We are about to go on another roller coaster ride.
I thought we might need a place to share our stories. Vent some stress. Share elation.
This thread isn't about getting facts right or arguing over coaching decisions. It is about your experience as a Canuck fan.
I will go first
My name is Shift-4 (not real name)
And I am a Canuckaholic
It started at a very young age. Circa 1980. The Canucks were the ‘home’ team. They were the little team that could. Well actually they couldn’t. They kept losing to those Blues – the power of the division at the time.
Then the divisions were reformatted. They were placed with a new team from Edmonton who had some scrawny kid that was playing lights out. Calgary was also in the division, they seemed to be able to compete with Edmonton. The Canucks not so much.
In 1982 that little team that could actually did. They made it to the Stanley Cup finals. But waiting for them in the finals was one of the greatest teams of all time. The hated NY Islanders quickly disposed of the Canucks in 4 games.
It was a defining time for my Canuckaholism. As a young lad I got to stay up past my bedtime to watch all the games. You were the cool kid if you got to share the score at show and tell the next day in school. I was often the cool kid
Those hated Islanders also defined Canuckaholism – it isn’t going to be easy being a Canuckaholic they told me.
The 80s rolled on. The Stanley Cup visited Alberta 6 times (6th being in 1990). In 1989 The Cup only visited Calgary because of one goal post and a kicked in goal vs the good guys. It was a tough time to be a Canuckaholic. But we had this young kid from Medicine Hat join the team. A real heart and soul kid. He almost won the Calder. Almost. Almost is a good term for Canuckaholics.
In the early 90s things improved. We had a no nonsense tough Irish Coach and a flashy high scoring forward from Russia. The Canucks finished first in the division two years in a row. Things were looking up. This was a young team with promise. Maybe it ain’t so bad being a Canuckaholic I thought.
Then 1994 came. After a disappointing regular season the Canucks got on a roll. They were a machine. After staving off elimination in successive games against the Flames they went on to beat Dallas quite handly. And then we got to beat the ever hated Leafs of Toronto. This team looked really good. In the finals we faced a tough, experienced team from New York. The Rangers this time. But it wasn’t a sweep because the Canucks were much better this time. Game 6 might still be one of the most exciting games in Canucks history. We lost in game 7. We almost won. Almost.
In the late 90s we had a former all-star join the team. Someone who had won six Stanley Cups. He was going to lead this team to the promised land. Turned out to be a mess. It was my darkest time as a Canuckaholic. I had a lot of respect and admiration for this player until he came to the Canucks. At least there were no almosts during this time.
The Canucks struggled on. Canuckaholism remained strong with me.
Things looked up when we had a shifty Swedish forward leading us. One year he almost won the Rocket Richard trophy, the Hart trophy and the Art Ross trophy in the same year. Almost.
The following season that Swedish forward received a cheap head shot mid season. He was never the same. His good friend searched out retribution for that hit. Vengeance did not serve the Canucks well. Another dark time for my Canuckaholicism.
The team toiled on. They were bad. And then they got good again. Really good.
We had back to back Art Ross winners. The first winning the Hart as well. The second was a runner up for the Hart. A couple of skinny twins from Sweden. And we had this brash centre from the US win the Selke. In fact, just last year the Canucks won the President’s trophy. This team led the league in goals for and had the lowest goals against. It was a fantastic season and a great time to be a Canuckaholic.
They went on to the Stanley Cup finals only to lose in game 7. They almost won it all. Almost.
And again they have won another President’s Trophy. This time a little more quietly. But I like that. It is easier to be a Canuckaholic with less attention.
But Cancuckaholics still get attention. We aren’t liked in Calgary or Toronto or Boston or Chicago. But I don’t really care.
It’s been a tough road being a Canuckaholic. We get abused outside of our circle. We are hated. But I don’t care.
I love my team.
After last year I have no expectations for them. That doesn’t mean I expect them to fail. It just means I am here for the ride no matter where they take me. They did everything but win the Cup last year. Only one thing left now. There can be no bigger disappointment than last year. It was the ultimate ‘almost’.
So this year I just expect to go on another great ride. There will be ups and downs. Thrills and times to be concerned. But no matter what I will cheer them on like I always have.
I am Shift-4
And I am a Canuckaholic!!!
GO CANUCKS GO!!!!!!!!!
Posted ABurrows14 on 09 August 2012 - 08:55 PM
We have owners who aren't frugal and will spend to the cap limit. We have cap space and will have even more once Raymond, Ballard & Luongo are traded. Seriously, I would sign Doan for 7.5 even if it was a long term deal 3-4 years. By then our window will be closed and our team won't be competitive.
These hail mary signings like Marc Andre Gragnani, Alexander Mallet, Guillaime Desbiens are plugs and won't do anything to make an impact in the playoffs.
We missed out on Parise, Van Rymsdyk, Sutter, Webber, Nash, Jagr, Whitney, Jokinen, Shultz, Penner, Hedjuk, Selanne
We landed Jason Garrison. Thats it!
Yes lets blow up the team long term (bc you realize throwing money around in a cap world means choices later?) bc winning the pres trophy two years running, going to the cup finals 2 years ago, being considered in the top 5 for winning the cup for the past 5 years just isn't acceptable.
you know what kid, just because mommy gave you a ribbon for failing doesn't mean you get everything you want in this life just bec you say you want it.
you're clearly gen y, narcistic, entitlement attitude etc, why don't you go ask mommy for a new bmw little brat.
no team can win the cup every year, all you can ask for is excitement, entertainment, and a good shot, we have that, be thankful you don't have to watch the leafs, columbus, the islanders, etc etc...
Posted Edler's Mind Tricks on 08 August 2012 - 09:32 PM
The Penguins led the league with 722 points from their top 20.
We had 681 points from our top 20 2 years ago.
Anyone who predicts more then 680 points in the 20 scorers they list is very, very optimistic. Anyone who predicts over 700 needs to take off their blue and green glasses. Anyone who predicts more then 720... Just keep it to yourself.
Mr. Mullet, you are predicting that we have a better offensive season then two years ago when we led the league... You are predicting that we will have 720 points coming from our top 19 (the 20th scorer on top teams seems to get 5-6 points) and that our top 20 will outscore last year's penguins...
I don't think that that is realistic. Shave off maybe 60-80 points and you might get closer to reality.
THN predicts 669 points from our top 17 which works out to maybe 688 points for the top 20 (last year our 18-20 players produced 19 points and the year before that it was 17 points).
THN is a bit too optimistic, but only slightly outrageously so.
I ususally post a huge points projections thread at the start of every year, and I will wait until early september (when hopefully Doan and MG will have made their moves) to make my own prognostications.
Just try to keep your numbers in check by adding up the point totals in your predictions.
Posted stexx on 06 August 2012 - 09:19 PM
Why do people feel the need to apologize for winning? you won doesnt matter how.
Posted TOMapleLaughs on 22 July 2012 - 10:21 AM
Also, the Canucks aren't the only team to fail at getting Shea Weber. 29 teams will fail to get him. Just as 29 teams failed to get Justin Schultz.
Wow, that's a lot of failure there. So i guess that's a lot of opportunity to cry about failure.
I like this notion that the Canucks get to control all aspects in getting whatever players they want. That would be very nice. However, it's plainly obvious that they are not able to control all aspects in getting whatever players they want. It is an unfortunate reality worthy of writing about with some emotion. Strong emotion.
Posted oldnews on 21 July 2012 - 10:26 PM
Goldfish memory span anyone?
Priority #1 - sign Schneider before July 1st. Done deal. Avoid offer sheets, no pressure to move Luongo. Major coup.
Priority #2 - sign Garrison. Big, versatile, two-way, 23 minute blueliner entering his prime, who wants to be here, signed below what market value was commanding. Done deal. Sami Salo was my favorite Canuck, but this is a move that a GM has to make/take advantage of. Not being able to sign Schultz and Salo are relative moot points. I don't care much what Ballard haters have to say - he is a solid guy and a luxury in the 5 spot, and I would not give you Tanev for Schultz, certainly not at this point. with the window wide open (not to mention his cap hit is 900k, where Schultz's is 3.75m).
So far, the summer is going swimmingly. Keep reeling them in GMMG.
Fortune smiled upon the Canucks at the draft with Gaunce still available when they picked in the 1st round.
What has yet to unfold.
Priority #3 - upgrade the top six with a (power) forward if at all possible. Whereas it looked doubtful Doan left Phoenix, it now looks entirely possible, with the Canucks pursuing the best option available and as good a chance as anyone of signing Doan. Whether or not he chooses Vancouver, MG and LG are putting their best, most reasonable feet forward. Once Doan's decision is known, the Canucks will have a clearer picture of their roster needs and cap space.
Being a player in the Weber sweepstakes is over-rated. Nashville holds the cards, whether people realize this or not. The minimum price to acquire Weber - 4 firsts, 110 million and 14 years is too much, and still likely not enough to get it done - makes perfect sense to drop out of that one. The Canucks depth on the blueline is already solid - many people seem to under-value the top 5, and have the improvement of young players in the system (Tanev, Sauve, Connauton) as blind-spots.
Priority #4 - get a market value return in the Luongo deal. Gillis has played his cards well. Luongo's value is not going down anytime soon - the original lowballing and distortions regarding his contract have come into clearer perspective - free agent frenzy, the re-upping of goaltenders with worse dollar values than Luongo's contract, and lack of alternatives on the market only fortify Gillis' position of holding out. Gillis has Luongo's considerable trade value on reserve - at the very least Gillis will be able to acquire a player or two who add depth to the top six, a third line center or a right handed blueliner. Regardless, the Canucks have very viable players in the system without the additon of Doan or the Luongo deal.
Right now there have been two huge moves completed, and the potential for another two huge moves that could seriously upgrade an already deep team.
Seems only fitting that people would be complaining.
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