The Canucks aren't trying because they don't want to try. Everyone in the room knows the problem. They all know they have 2nd seed in the West pretty much locked up. They don't want to waste their time and energy, when a months-long grind is ahead.
on 11 March 2012 - 02:29 PM
Wheels22, on 11 March 2012 - 02:23 PM, said:
I am so sick of people saying "were 2nd in the league!!! everybody calm down! blah blah blah"
Where we are in the standings means absolutely nothing when your team is playing awful.
yah there so awful yet there in second place , really think about what your saying
you can nit pick problems all you want , when they play an important game like detroits record which they broke , or vs the blues , they play , i dont care if they dont step up to these weak ass non playoff teams
Stop with the dreadful fonts, people. It doesn't make your posts special, it's just a pain to read.
I think people still fail to realize that neither Ehrhoff or CoHo wanted to stay. Don't get me wrong, I loved them, but you don't know what they're like in the locker room, behind closed doors. Ehrhoff was snobby and wanted money, so we let him walk. CoHo was apparently being snobby and wanted more ice time, so we traded for pieces that would benefit this team in the near future, and hopefully increase our chances at a Cup. We need one now, if not within the next few years, as our core is at their prime and will hit their decline soon.
I think he's progressing more and more every night. I actually didn't mind him at all last night, made good plays, nice passes, almost scored on the wraparound. I saw more turnovers from Pahlsson and Hansen.
Try not to forget he's coming back from a spinal injury, and just because he's playing again doesn't mean he's going to instantly return to his original 50 point scoring form (even though it did seem like he was going too his first 8 games).
Also it's not like he's our #1 franchise player or something, he's our third liner.
Call me old fashioned but nothing can convince me to stop watching the Canucks. We as fans have no choice to trust Av will put the best lines together going forth and if we don't agree the alcohol makes it all better.
My respect for AV has gone up after seeing that he plans to play Tanev and Gragnani as the third pairing tonight against Montreal.
Thomas Drance suggests that he might be using "Fenwick numbers" to help with this decision. See http://vansunsportsb...t-effectively/. Fenwick numbers basically track a shot-based plus/minus number for 5-on-5 play, adjusted for starting position (offensive or defensive zone) but not adjusted for strength of competition.
Here an excerpt on Tanev:
Finally, because I can’t help myself, I decided to look at possession demon Chris Tanev. His sample of play this season is minuscule (he’s played less than 180 even-strength minutes this season), but if we combine this season and last, we get a 558 minute sample that is worth looking into. His adjusted regular season fenwick number is +10.69, which, would put him safely at the top of the table above. Through forty-one NHL games, Chris Tanev has consistently demonstrated the ability to drive play from the blueline: and that is rather unique, and very exciting.
Other key points include the not surprising fact that of the defensive regulars, Dan Hamhuis is the best (and, not surprisingly, he also has the best plus/minus). If we were to take into account strength of competition, he would look even better. He is an under-rated and outstanding D. On these numbers, which I find more convincing than any other numbers, he is certainly the Canucks best D.
Edler is a great offensive D but no so great in his own end, which should also come as no surprise.
And Rome is not bad -- better than Ballard on this measure and he provides more size and toughness (and hits) as well.
However, Gragnani and Tavev were great against the Jets. Like many others, I wanted to see them paired together when Gragnani came over in the Hodgson trade. It is early days yet, but they could be an excellent third pairing. The model of having one more offensive guy (Gragnani) and one more defensive guy (Tanev) works well, as with Bieksa and Hamhuis.
Of course a Gragnani/Tanev pairing does not provide a lot of toughness, but I would prefer to see toughness provided by forwards. On D, you want guys who stop the opponents from scoring, and Tavev does a great job on that.
To get more toughness in the line-up I would like to see both Weise and Kassian in the line-up.