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Posted burrows#1 on 01 December 2013 - 07:43 PM
This drought in offense and the lack of innovation in the Canucks' current game must be blamed on the General Manager. Sure, things feel especially bleak right now because of the struggles the team has been having as of late; third period collapses and forfeited points. But these problems are not new, the holes in our line up are two years old and with the exception of the second half of the 2010 season and playoffs, this team has not been the same mentally or physically since Manny's horrific injury. That is so depressing to still be saying...
A lack of a proven, trusted, inspiring third line center has us back in the 'Kyle Wellwood days' only with slightly better roster players rotating throughout our bottom six. The lack of structure on our third and second line has seemingly been ignored and has the team relying way too much on the aging Sedins and players outperforming their projections like Santorelli.
Although signings like Santorelli are brilliant when they turn out the way Mike has for us so far this year, those types of signings need to be depth players who come into our locker room to surround our core of producing, top line talent - instead these players are looked at to find their 20-goal form and if they don't we are losing 3-1 games left right and center.
The fact that Burrows doesn't have a goal thus far this season is a fact I am ignoring in this write up/rant. He is clearly snake bitten but the quality chances he is getting will start going in soon enough. The problem is that he, and players in similar situations, need to be replaced and that hasn't happened. I do not mean we need to trade him or ship him out somewhere and then replace him on our roster, I mean that we need to replace his former point production because we aren't going to win games down the stretch without that. Burrows does so much off of the puck and off of the ice for this team I do not see trading him as a realistic possibility for the team, it would be a bad move, but we need those goals, and Burrows is not the only player in which this is the case.
I feel as though the part of the "restart" that Gillis failed to carry through was the stage of 'cleaning house.' We have dead weight on this team and pieces that need to be moved in order to make way for high end talent that is excited to play for our team. Our players are aging, it's natural, but adjustments have to be made in order to compensate for that. Every game there are a handful of our KEY players that are playing every shift like the last shift of a hard practice scrimmage at 5AM on a Sunday. Most namely, Alexander Edler.
Edler is slow, completely unmotivated and shows no sign of aggression or intensity when on or off the puck. As impossible as it is to read the NHL trade market from a fans perspective, I would like to believe that we could fetch a decent return for a package including Edler that could greatly strengthen our top six. These are the types of big deals that change landscapes for teams and rejuvenate a locker room and fan base - this, or something similar NEEDS to happen very soon.
Essentially, the Canucks have a good team -- we have good players on our roster that have the ability to stack up against the best teams in the league, we just need to remember how to put the pieces together at one time; and if the players cant do that with the current roster, our GM needs to give them more pieces to work with. Overall, there is no need to panic, the future is much brighter after this past off season, Dale Weise is a beaut and we even have a handful of powerplay goals in our last five games. Our team has just failed to play up to their potential, a potential that happens to have a very high ceiling. It will be a fun run this year and interesting to see if we can make the playoffs, keep the faith, this is what it's all about!
Thanks for the rant CDC, it has been a while!
Posted Bring_Back_Bertuzzi on 11 August 2013 - 12:49 PM
Posted JE14 on 15 July 2013 - 11:37 AM
Posted JensenFan2011 on 30 May 2013 - 07:36 PM
Posted redhdlois on 07 May 2013 - 05:49 PM
I've said this before but Schneider might be the better goaltender in a lot of ways but nobody wants Lu's contract. We aren't going to get anything for him. What serve's this team more: keeping Schneider (the debatably better, younger goaltender) and getting almost nothing in return for Lu; or keeping Lu (a still world class goaltender) and getting some huge pieces in return for Schnieder? Lu might not be the better goalie but the fact is, goaltending isn't our issue, it's our lack of scoring depth which once again is showing it's ugly head in the playoffs when the Sedins disappear and nobody steps up besides Burrows and Kesler.
All MG and AV have done is created a situation where Lu no longer wants to be here while alienated most teams with an interest in him by asking for far too much. In the end, moving Lu will yield no real tangible rewards and has poisoned his relationship with this team in favour of an asset that won't make that big of a difference down the stretch when we can't score goals.
This alone has soured me on both MG and AV and in my mind they should both be fired as soon as the season is over, which looks more and more like it will be (at best) Thursday night and more than likely tonight.
THIS.......is the wisest business decision we could make. We need something in return to improve this team.
Posted Bananas on 10 May 2013 - 11:57 PM
The only reason this situation bothers me at all is that we gave up assets and still got swept.
Posted Patrick Kane on 06 May 2013 - 01:42 AM
Many haters will say Ehrhoff was a product of the Sedins. Well, yes, he was... sort of. He was the Canucks fastest, and best offensive defenseman.
Unfortunately he only played 2 seasons with the Canucks. His first season, he put up 14 goals and 30 assists. 44 points, +36, and averaged 22:47 per game. Won the Babe Pratt trophy as best defenseman of the team BOTH years he was here. Impressive. His second year, he once again potted 14 goals (consistency!) and notched 36 assists and 50 points. +19 and averaged 23:59 per game.
Huge blow to the Canucks defense and powerplay. For me, the biggest blow was the Sedins production. Heres their stats the two years Ehrhoff was playing on the team.
Wow! Some impressive numbers. Right after Ehrhoff leaves, the Sedins aren't even point per game players...
2. Mikael Samuelsson
Many people loathed Mikael Samuelsson. The way I looked at him, I saw a 50 point player on a cheap contract, who can step it up in the playoffs. In hindsight, Samuelsson ended up becoming oft-injured and barely serviceable but the same could be said about David Booth. The difference is, Canucks are stuck with Booth's contract, and Samuelsson perhaps would of walked, or let go by Gillis.
Regardless, Samuelsson was a supremely versatile player, had moments with the Sedins, provided good secondary scoring with Kesler, and was a good option on the powerplay. His playoff performance was outstanding, registering 15 pts in 12gp in 2009/10. His second year, he came into the playoffs on a slow start, and eventually injured. A poor showing with 3 pts in 11gp. Unfortunate that he couldn't return to the line-up, as perhaps he might of provided a small edge that would push the Canucks over Boston.
Heres what Samuelsson did in his short tenure in Vancouver:
2009/10: 74gp/30g/23a/53pts +10
2010/11: 75gp/18g/32a/50pts +8
2011/12: 6gp/1g/2a/3pts -1
He went onto Florida and put up 28 pts in 48 games played. 5 pts in 7 games played in the playoffs.
David Booth had 29 pts in 56 games played. 1 point in 5 games played in the playoffs.
Gillis may have thought he got a steal with David Booth, but it appears Dave Tallon knows what he was doing. Canucks are hooked with David Booth's salary, and may opt to use an amnesty buy-out. Samuelsson and Sturm are no longer Florida Panthers, and Tallon has successfully dumped Booth's cap hit.
3. Raffi Torres
Raffi Torres is the perfect third line player. Brings a big physical game, solid offensive instincts, and defensively capable. After losing to Boston, Gillis made it clear he wanted more size and toughness in the line-up. Which is why he lets go one of the toughest players on the Canucks, and signs Marco Sturm...
Raffi Torres is a perfect third liner. Strong lower body, so he can't be tossed around easily. Great hitter, and crashes the net. Good for 15 goals on the 3rd line. Not to mention, he formed a legendary third line of Torres-Lapierre-Hansen in the 2010/11 cup run. It's a shame that Gillis broke that up.
We are all seeing the impact Torres is making on the Sharks. Playing in the top 6, and isn't missing a beat. Playing better then Chris Higgins, Mason Raymond, Jannik Hansen, and deadline acquisition Derek Roy.
Canucks may have had a chance to acquire Torres at the deadline, I don't know. I do know that this new Torres we are seeing is even better then the one that left Vancouver. More disciplined, smarter and better offensively.
I was quite confused on the decision to let Raffi go, hes a rare player to have, can bring momentum for your team, and provide a huge physical presence, while being a factor offensively. Hopefully Zack Kassian can atleast develop into a Raffi Torres.
4. Sami Salo
The 'Finnish McInnis'. Sami Salo was a long time veteran of the Canucks. Oft-injured, yet arguably the best all-around defenseman the Canucks had. Vastly underrated league-wide and by Canucks fans. Calm and cool in his own end. Great breakout pass, and last but not least, his shot.
Many people claim Garrison came in to replace Salo, and it was an improvement. Perhaps, but the way I look at it, I see bad asset management. Sami Salo's last contract was a 1 year, 2 million dollar deal. It appears that Salo took a hometown discount to stay. Now, hes a pending free-agent, and rumored to want 2 years (obviously since he signed 2 yr deal with Tampa). I wouldn't be surprised if Salo signed a 2 year, 2.25-2.5m dollar deal with the Canucks.
I don't know whats going on behind the scenes, but just speculating. I do know that the Canucks kept Keith Ballard, who played 36 out of 48 games, and isn't being played in the playoffs. I do know that he was being used as forward at some times during the season. I do know that he is being favored over Andrew Alberts and Frank Corrado in the playoffs. I do know that he has put up 16 pts in 148 games for Vancouver.
I wouldn't be surprised if Ballard stays next year with Vancouver as well. I mean, Gillis needs to justify that trade. He gave up a premium for Ballard, giving up speedy sniper Michael Grabner, 1st round pick (Quinton Howden) and Steve Bernier.
Had Gillis moved Ballard off the roster, and re-signed Ballard, the Canucks would of had four capable RH defenseman, and perhaps Edler wouldn't be playing like garbage without his partner Salo.
Hamhuis - Bieksa
Edler - Salo
Garrison - Tanev
5. Cody Hodgson
This one I can go on and on about. I want to clear one thing first.
We know that he "asked for ice-time" but we that doesn't mean he asked for a trade. We don't know the true story. I don't want to get into the debate of "it doesn't matter, he wanted out anyways". You don't need to trade a player right away if he wants out. Did Columbus trade Nash right away?
Anyways, it was a shame that he left. I see similar development as Logan Couture. I am by no means saying that Hodgson has the defensive game or shooting abilities of Couture, but just saying a similar development path.
Hodgson enters the league playing limited minutes, and gets a taste of the Stanley Cup playoffs.
Hodgson played more games in the playoffs then he did in the regular season. (12 vs 8). Although he barely played, he did get a taste of the NHL.
Couture got a taste of the NHL, appearing in 25 regular season games and 15 playoff games. Showing some promise, but not a primary producer yet.
2nd year, Hodgson has a solid rookie campaign. 33 pts in 63 games played for Vancouver, which included 16 goals. If he played all 82 with Vancouver, he was on pace for 43 pts. He added 8 more pts in Buffalo, hitting 41. All these points accumulated mostly playing on the third line and 2nd PP unit.
2nd year, Couture accumulates 57 points in 79 games played. But he's not playing 12-14 minutes that Hodgson is, he jumps from 10 minutes a game to 17:49. He becomes a part of the San Joses top 6, passing Joe Pavelski on the depth chart. (Remember this)
3rd year, Hodgson is now a top line center, facing the toughest competition, and manages 34 points in 48 games played. In a full year, thats 58 points.
3rd year, Couture is now starting to be considered an elite forward, 65 points on the year.
4th year, Couture gets 37 points in 48 games played, and considered the "guy" in San Jose.
Now, we have heard the Couture/Hodgson comparisons, but heres the thing San Jose did right. They had Joe Pavelski as center. They MOVED him to wing. Couture took over the 2nd line spot, and it worked out great. Pavelski can drop to the 3rd line C whenever needed, or go RW with Couture or Thornton.
Canucks didn't do this with Kesler. Yes he's a great defensive forward and a great faceoff man. But so is Pavelski. But they paved the way of Couture, something Canucks didn't do for Hodgson. Although, I doubt Kesler would shift anyways, nor AV would try it.
6. Manny Malhotra
Malhotra proved to the league he could play after a great run with San Jose as a third line C, signing late in the summer at a low rate under 1 million. The Canucks quickly scooped him up when he became a free-agent and solved their 3rd line center issue, which was previously held by Kyle Wellwood. Malhotra did everything AV wanted as a 3rd line C. Win faceoffs, play the PK, shutdown opposing top two lines, leadership, shotblocking, grit, heart... you name it. It's no suprise when he was playing as an elite 3rd line C, Kesler was freed from some defensive duties and had a career year.
Ever since his eye injury, he hasn't been the same. No adequate replacement has been acquired by Mike Gillis.
Hodgson was doing great offensively as a young upcoming talent, but didn't fit the demands of AV.
Pahlsson was okay, but he was a no-show in the playoffs, and quickly left for Sweden after the off-season.
Lapierre looked to be able to handle the duties to a lesser extent in the 2010/11 playoffs with Torres and Hansen, but it appears hes a 4th liner at best.
Ebbett, Schroeder and Roy... All diminutive centers who don't excel in the defensive zone. Basically going back to Kyle Wellwood third line saga.
Malhotra will likely never suit up as a Canuck due to his injury, it's unfortunate how he went down. It's hard to find a player like Malhotra.
Look across the league. San Jose with Pavelski, Pittsburgh with Sutter, Chicago with Bolland, Boston with Kelly, Los Angeles with Stoll. The ultra 3rd line C's, who provide more then the average 3rd liner.
Posted FutureNHLGm on 25 February 2013 - 11:27 AM
Step 1: Fire AV, Newell Brown, Bowness.
Step 2: Hire Lindy Ruff, Another Special Teams Coach, and another associate coach.
Step 3: Trade Ballard or Garrison for a capable shutdown RH shot. When a lefty has to play Right D, he can throw the whole pairing off and screw up his positioning.
Step 4: Trade for a 3rd line center. Whether it be picks, prospects or even a player trade, (Schneider trade, Luongo trade etc,) We need that defensive 3rd line shutdown center.
Step 5: Bag Skate these lazy D-men and every time they play a bad game, take them out and replace them with other Candidates such as Barker, Alberts or Vandermeer.
I think these are the key changes the Canucks need to become a contender again and the firings of AV, NB, and Bowness will help light a fire under their butts to start performing.
Posted SSM30 on 05 May 2013 - 09:42 PM
Vancouver could certainly acquire more for Cory Schneider than Roberto Luongo in a trade as Schneider, unlike Luongo, has a cap friendly short-term contract and is 27 years old.
As we saw at the trade deadline, the Canucks are not going to acquire more than a couple mid-round picks for Luongo and may even have to eat some of his contract in order to trade him. Trading Schneider may, however, kick start a rebuild as Vancouver may be able to acquire some younger assets to help in other areas of need. Namely, secondary scoring and on defense.
In addition, Vancouver has 2 young goaltenders in Eddie Lack and Joe Cannata who can be brought along in a similar fashion to Schneider playing behind and learning from Luongo.
In order for this to occur however, any bad feelings and ill will from the year long Luongo trade saga would have to be resolved, which will be easier said then done.
Then again, it looks more and more like Vancouer will make serious management and/or coaching changes in the off-season which may result in Luongo recommitting to Vancouver for the duration of his contract under a new regime.
So what is the ideal scenario?
Move forward with Luongo and kick-start a rebuild by trading Schneider? Or trade Luongo for spare parts and hope the obvious short comings in the lineup can be filled by other means as a Luongo trade return will likely be minimal?
Posted Champions of Nothing on 05 August 2012 - 06:32 PM
Posted Gillyfluffball on 01 August 2012 - 10:47 PM
Posted Fateless on 01 August 2012 - 06:44 PM
- Glad that they're not afraid to put their support into their beliefs. No matter what people may think/say, the Canucks organization is very classy in the way they deal with their community and role as ambassadors of the sport.
Posted Champions of Nothing on 01 August 2012 - 03:09 PM
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Manny Malhotra teams up with You Can Play
…Canucks centreman to march in 2012 Pride Parade
Vancouver, B.C. – Vancouver Canucks forward Manny Malhotra, and You Can Play co-founder, Patrick Burke, will march in the Vancouver 2012 Pride Parade, on Sunday, August 5th. The Canucks centre is the third professional hockey player to participate in Pride events this year under the You Can Play banner. Tommy Wingels of the San Jose Sharks and Vincent LoVerde, of the Ontario Reign, marched in Chicago on June 24th.
Malhotra joins Canucks teammates Ryan Kesler and the Sedins, Daniel and Henrik, in lending his name and efforts to You Can Play, an organization dedicated to eliminating homophobia in sports. He is among more than 50 elite NHL players who have taped PSAs and spoken in favor of changing the culture of locker rooms and spectator areas by focusing solely on an athlete’s skills, work ethic and competitive spirit.
On Malhotra’s efforts, Burke said, "You Can Play is proud and honored to have the Vancouver Canucks and Manny Malhotra join us in supporting LGBT athletes and fans. Vancouver has a wonderful LGBT community and a passionate hockey community. We are thrilled to see the Canucks working to bring those two groups closer together. Having a well-respected warrior in Manny stand up along with Henrik, Daniel, Ryan, and dozens of other NHLers around the League gives hope to young LGBT hockey players everywhere."
Burke, a scout for the Philadelphia Flyers, appeared in the debut You Can Play public service announcement in March, with his father, General Manager of the Toronto Maple Leafs, Brian Burke. The PSA was showcased on an NBC NHL Game of the Week broadcast. Since then, the group’s website has featured an additional 20 PSAs done by NHL, AHL, OHL and NCAA athletes. Dozens of additional athletes have spoken in support of You Can Play, with Malhotra, being the most recent.
“I’m thrilled to be able to show my support for You Can Play,” said Manny Malhotra. “It’s paramount that equality in sport, and beyond, becomes the norm. Everybody has the right to play the game they love. I am excited to share this message of equality and show my support this Sunday.”
Burke and Malhotra will march with players from the Vancouver Cutting Edges. Founded to play in the Gay Games in New York in 1994, they are the only gay hockey club in Western Canada.
Emblematic of pro athletes’ embrace of the You Can Play mission, Wingels, an advisory board member of the organization said, “I decided to march because it was a great way to show support for You Can Play. I felt it was important to show that I was an ally, and that there are many others out there as well. I think it is important to be an ally and show that the game of hockey welcomes everybody, regardless of who they are.”
Joining them all at Sunday’s march will be another representative from the Canucks organization, Fin, the team’s mascot.
The You Can Play website, home to the player PSAs that promote the organization’s goals and positive messages, is augmented on social media channels, Facebook, Twitter and Youtube.
Good for Manny and the team to support this cause.
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