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  1. Roy freaks out, almost breaks the boards and he's a darn hero. Torts tries to defend his players and he gets a hearing. Wow.
    47 points
  2. Loved it, it showed he cares about his players and stood up for the team. AV would be chewing his gum at all that.
    45 points
  3. Patrick Roy defends his players and is basically praised like a hero. Torts does the same thing and is considered an expletive. I loved what happened tonight, and what has been happening of late.
    24 points
  4. 7 minute 5 on 3, every game, for the rest of the season
    19 points
  5. I've seen some opinions in the GDT, but I wanted to see everything in one spot. Here's my final say on what happened at the beginning of the game: Yes, the Canucks had last change, so hypothetically they could've put out their 1st, 2nd, or 3rd line, instead of their 4th. However, what Torts was angry about was the fact that the decision for Calgary to put their 4th line out was BASED ON the assumption that Torts would put out the 1st line. If that was the case, Henrik Sedin would be at center, and look back to who the flames put at center for the opening draw? A player that had only taken face-offs 3 previous times? In my mind, they knew full well of Henrik's rib injury, and were looking to exploit it right at the beginning. As for what happened during the first intermission, I don't really know what to say. So anyways, what do you guys think? (((Also, PJ Stock is a moron))))
    15 points
  6. HAHAHAH Juice Kevin Bieksa ‏@kbieksa33m Thanks to all for the congrats/warm messages for my 1st NHL face off win! Took a lot of hard work but it was well worth it. #straightback
    14 points
  7. Banned from the NHL for life. Charged with causing a disturbance. Air Miles card revoked. ICBC rates increased. For all of us. In other words, I'm sure they'll throw the book of lies & NHL toilet reading at him. In seriousness, he deserves a suspension if only to set the bar...can't allow that to happen. However, keeping in mind WHY it happened, I hope the wheel of justice turns in all directions. A game or two. Anything more is ridiculous.
    13 points
  8. Interestingly, Kevin Weekes basically let the cat out of the bag on this one post game, stating that Torts is used to getting away with a lot of stuff when he was in the leagues marquee market in NYC and probably doesn't yet realize he's in a much weaker position in Vancouver. Elliott Friedman (who had taken a pro-Torts position vs PJ Stock post-game) then accused Weekes of being a 'Vancouver conspiracy theorist' with Weekes back tracking furiously. I think this sheds some light on the source of Torts' frustrations here. He coming to grips with the crapty way our franchise is treated by the league office and it's starting to get to him.
    13 points
  9. Torts is a beauty. A game like this is what makes a group of players come together as a team, when they see their coach willing to stand up for them. Love the fact he apologized to Lain afterwards. For all the heat Torts gets, he sounds like a guy who really respects his players.
    12 points
  10. "If it wasn't my first game back I would have gone up the ice too. I didn't wanna get hurt again." - Luongo
    12 points
  11. Opening faceoff (Bieksa takes draw): Torts vs Flames (Canucks coach mafia):
    11 points
  12. Worst mod on this board. "I didn't watch the game, but here is my uninformed opinion anyway. Maybe you should see what happened to start the game,the type of tactics Hartley uses (treats his players like pawns and then acts the coward). The team didn't resort to anything. They played the game the right way.
    11 points
  13. I couldn't be more proud of our guys and our coach. Loved it. Here's my take: Vancouver has been labelled as a soft team for years. Every club in the NHL was gladly bullying this team and these guys, and the media, the league and nobody else from the outside had a problem with it. The expectation was that Vancouver will always back down from the confrontation, and the Canucks didn't disappoint. They turned the other cheek to the point where lots of fans questioned their honor as men. The Canucks naively trusted the league to serve justice, but the NHL never came through. Now, when the Canucks push back, when they don't back down and the players fight back nobody from the outside likes it. Now the league wants to step in and do what's right to "protect the integrity of the game." To everyone saying the Canucks should've turned the other cheek yet again and started someone other than the fourth line, I ask why? Why are we always the ones expected to have the cooler heads? Why are we the ones who always have to be rational? Let me remind you that Westgarth went after Bieksa right off the faceoff. Bieksa didn't even drop his gloves. I wonder if Westgarth had started throwing punches and Bieksa didn't reciprocate, would we have gotten a 7 minute powerplay? If you take a look at the HF boards or NHL.com's comment section, you'd see all the assumptions made about Vancouver. Now all of a sudden this club is no longer a soft club, now the Canucks are goons. This team will always, ALWAYS get the short end of the stick from the league. We will always have to kill penalties for things EVERY other team gets away with, and we will ALWAYS have to kill penalties for sticking up for one another. I'm finally starting to make my peace with it, slowly. Yes he shouldn't have gone into the Flames hallway but if another coach had done I'm willing to bet that he'd probably get away with a fine. Hell if Torts had done that as a Rangers coach he'd probably merely get smacked with a fine. Let's see what the verdict will be as a Canucks coach. I'd like to thank Torts for teaching this club not to take sh*t from anyone, and I'd like to apologize to him for most likely having to be at the brunt of all of this by the league and the media because he went into the other team's hallway. - Canucks fan
    11 points
  14. He went into a hallway and yelled at some people. Nothing much actually happened, but people will blow it out of proportion because that's what people do. Glad to see him fiery though, hes giving this team a bite back AV never could. Props to Torts.
    11 points
  15. found this on HF tonight. had a good giggle.
    10 points
  16. Nothing inspires leadership like a guy who's willing to do whatever it takes to defend his team. Did he cross a line? Perhaps. But it's coaches like that, players will go through a brick wall for.
    10 points
  17. If you can't see that Kassian is now getting better every game you're an idiot.
    9 points
  18. sorry he doesn't deserve a suspension if Roy gets away with just a fine this NHL is a big joke
    8 points
  19. Much rather a coach who shows emotion and plays over the 'edge' then some one who just sits there and chews gum and does nothing. Yeah Torts prob shouldn't have carried his 'anticts' off the ice and into the flames dressing room but you know what.. good for him for actually giving a darn about his players. TORTS I totally love you and the way you seem to genuinely care about this team and how you are teaching the boys what its like to play with heart. Personally I am sick of the way the canucks and us fans (by extension) are seen like pushovers and whiners. Time to show the world that we are tough and if it takes doing crap like this then fine, by all means, I applaud Torts and the canucks. Much rather be bullies then pansies any day so Goon it up Vancouver.
    8 points
  20. Friedman is an excellent analyst. He comes from a professional and unbiased position, and analyzes things logically, rather than with emotion. He made Stock sound like a whiney fanboy last night. Can't believe that guy is still on the panel. One thing I don't get is why Tortorella was allowed to finish the game. Doesn't that rule state that they will automatically be suspended and removed from the game? Perhaps the NHL does like Tortorella's antics more than they're letting on. Why ruin the chance for more explosive outbursts from him right?
    6 points
  21. PJ Stock is a ****. Still going after the Canucks.
    6 points
  22. Because he's the hero Vancouver deserves, but not the one it needs right now...and so we'll hunt him, because he can take it. Because he's not a hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector...a dark knight
    5 points
  23. dunno if anybody posted this yet but Hartley claimed to put on his 4th line because they scored last game. Boxscore of last game (Calgary lost 5-2 so these are the only Flames goals): 3RD PERIOD 00:40 CGY Mark Giordano (6) Wrist shot - ASST: Paul Byron (8), Lee Stempniak (9) 5 - 1 WPG 11:59 CGY Lance Bouma (3) Deflected shot - ASST: Dennis Wideman (13) 5 - 2 WPG Do you see McGrattan, Westgarth, Butler, Jones, or Smid anywhere on that list? Hartley's BS exposed right here!
    5 points
  24. I've been ranting all over the place, pretty sure my opinion's well known on this. But, just in case, fully support Tort's actions. Sorry he had to resort to that, but he's seen enough. Desperate times call for desperate measures. And believe me, the league can't ignore it anymore. Sure, he'll pay a price. But there's a glaring spotlight that begs to get answers to the question "what the hell happened there"? And that exposure can't hurt us anymore than is already being done. Oh sure, the media clowns will glom on. Whatever. Stooges. If the league wants to play with rules that waver all over the place, make your own. Fully support this. Do or die time and we were dying. I have never cared about image...I care about holding true to yourself and doing what's right by those standards - no others. And I feel that's what Torts did. Sure, he lost it and it's not the most professional way. But this league has become anything but professional. You have a ref clearly calling someone a profane name on national TV. We can read lips. You have refs who say they're "watching" one player who "made him look bad". But wait a minute...aren't they supposed to watch the entire ice? So how are they doing their job if they're simply focused on one guy? (Answer: they're not). Long overdue. This gong show started long before Torts lost it. For crying out loud, look how the game started for a clue.
    5 points
  25. Weber did good tonight too. 28:22 TOI. Tying goal + shootout goal.
    5 points
  26. Torts deserves the Haida Hat tonight.
    5 points
  27. "The whole world is watching hockey night in Canada" Don't flatter yourselves CBC Stock trying way too hard to start a controversy. Guess what? The flames started their tough guys, the Canucks matched them. How long have you been out of hockey "PJ"? That's part of hockey. Obviously the Flames wanted to start something, and we responded. Move on. As for the Canucks win. It wasn't pretty, but any win after a long slump usually isn't. This team needs whatever it can get to start some momentum. Canucks get the last laugh!
    5 points
  28. 5 points
  29. um dude we have a pgt sigh up thread I was supposed to do the one tonight. I know you probably didn't check and didn't know. For future please check it out, that wasn't nice what you did.
    5 points
  30. PJ is still trying to make an argument and Friedman is shutting him down.
    5 points
  31. Dude what is your issue did Kassian bitch slap you when you were younger or something? Every chance you get you slam him..... are you a disgruntled yute
    5 points
  32. Torts should tell Campbell that he's still new to the building and got lost on his way to the washroom.
    4 points
  33. wow...after reading 11pages it amazes me ANYONE would have an issue with what Torts did last night. Even canuck haters. What Torts did last night is simple group dynamics 101. IT....WAS....BRILLIANT. Here is a new coach in his first year with a new room of guys who for YEARS have been studied in the art of "turning the other cheek in hopes that the game will be called fairly". Uh hmm. So Torts has had to not only teach an entirely new playing system, but also weed out a defeatist mentality installed over the last coaching regime. Throw on top of that the obvious bias that the league and officating has against this team, stated very well by debluvscanucks, and what he did was most definitely thought out. Here's a guy not even 6' tall charging a hallway full of guys that could beat him senseless without breaking a sweat, to SHOW BY EXAMPLE what it takes to be a TEAM. Nobody bashes the fkn Bruins for being a bunch of thugs that stick up for each other and go out of their way to flex their collective muscle. Hell the league sat back in this day and age of concussions and watched a no-fighting little weasel play punching bag with a star players face! The officiating in this league is second only to the NBA as far as being a joke, bush league, no integrity, amatuerish outfit. While leagues like the NFL and MLB are taking every step, including more replays, to ensure the integrity and rules of the game are being followed, out jogs the NHL with its inconsistent, bush league officiating. I guarantee that 85% of the penalties called on a nightly basis, no matter the teams involved, the players are left scratching their heads. Pretty sure this doesn't happen nearly as often in other professional sports. I applaud the work Torts is doing this season with these guys, and it'll only show better in the years to come. Seeing Torts losing his mind last night and showing his team and the rest of the league the size of cheesies he's working with is exactely the antidote this team was needing. Oh, and by the way, NHL officals and head office- coming from a hockey fan not just a Canuck fan- you can stop ruining our bloody game at any point, not just when the world starts seeing the NHL as a second tier league. Go KHL go lol.....
    4 points
  34. Torts shouldn't have done that. I won't argue a suspension for a few games. However, there is no freaking way Hartley should get off without a fine. I don't care if there's no rule against it. He put those three guys out there for the sole purpose of starting a brawl. Westgarth himself admitted to wanting to instigate a fight off the draw. Of course, that gutless puke can do no better than hide behind his players and play dumb to the media.
    4 points
  35. It was the heat of the moment. He lost it. But it brings attention, in a big way, to a guy pushed to the brink. A team pushed to brink. And this week's escapades will simply be an exclamation point to that. It's time that we get some glaring light on this league and the inequalities and, well, BS. Sure, we'll pay a price...but don't we always anyhow. So now, we fight back. And teams and the league are thinking "holy crap, they're nuts". It wouldn't be my first choice, but it is what it is. And the guy went to bat ... he'd seen, heard and had enough. Like many of us. The league's been trying to break this team's back for awhile. So let's have at 'er then. And it brings this team together, as I've said, in a total "us vs them" way. Unifies a team when their leader goes to bat like that. Takes the heat for them. Stands up, despite the consequences, to call out a dirty deed.
    4 points
  36. It's not really about Tortorella. That may be what a few halfwits - with an axe to grind - on the CBC may want to sell, but that's a very weak reversal of the obvious context The fact of the matter - Hartley lined Westgarth up to take the opening draw, flanked by McGratton. It was a lose lose situation, dictated by a coach whose team is losing a lot of hockey games. Perhaps it's an attempt to gain favour and retain his job with a GM who certainly seemed to appreciate similar antics in Toronto. Perhaps it was a consensus move that the Flames organization as a whole thought would be the message they wanted to send, or a strategic move they thought might pay off. Regardless, whether or not folks consider fighting a legitimate part of the game, where there is near consensus is in considering this kind of staged thing inappropriate and damaging to the NHL's image. People can try to finesse Hartley's decision all they want - it was pretty transparent what the intention was. It was a clear invitation that sets his own players up for the predictable result. The simple question for a blockhead like Stock is "what would you have done as the opposing coach?" If his answer truly was to send out the Sedins or a skilled line, as he implied in blaming Tortorella for essentially 'line matching', then he is truly as dense as we've suspected all along. But of course, that was ingenuine. I think he embarrassed the CBC with his rant and slant more than Tortorella allegedly embarrassed the NHL ('in America'). What a telling comment, Stock's crocodile tears regarding how this would be perceived in the States. HIs attempt to spin his 'reasoning' as anything other than a personal and rather small minded vendetta was laughable. When did PJ Stock start advocating a turn the other cheek approach? Give us a break. His foaming at the mouth over Tortorella only serves to build Tortorella's popularity in Vancouver. Suspending Tortorella for reacting to a lose lose invitation from Hartley - would only have the same effect. To be clear - it was a lose lose situation for the game of hockey - but for Tortorella himself - not really - he's not the originator of this context. Tortorella's only real option was to linematch. As a franchise that has attempted to trend away from the enforcer era NHL and the style of hockey on display tonight - with the result being that it's been undermined by the 'disciplinary' approach of the NHL, and in a media sense, perceived as a team with no pushback, whose marquis players are referred to as "sisters", the Canucks have accepted the fact that they'd have to answer this type of thing in kind. The irony is that they're supposed to be ashamed of themselves now that they've obliged. It's quite simple - a double standard. The other irony - from the same CBC camp that's firing the condemnations come comments from both Stock and Weekes implying that there is a real and underlying imperative to sell the game south of the border - that Tortorella supposedly damaged tonight - and that was less likely to result in a punitive response from the NHL when it took place in a marquis US market as it is now in Vancouver. Sounds like they both undervalue and take the Canadian/Vancouver market for granted. I also missed their commentary regarding Hartley's part in the circus. Red herrings all around. The quality of their broadcasting is something Elliotte Freedman can't rescue them from.
    4 points
  37. Torts made the right call. Calgary knew Hank was playing with a pretty nasty rib injury on top of a hand injury. No doubt in my mind they were going to try and get him out of the game on the opening faceoff. I must say, I love the pushback that Canucks have shown. They may not be built for games like tonight and the LA game on the regular, but man you have to admire the piss and vinegar they have shown.
    4 points
  38. "I guess Torts was a little fired up and came in, he's a passionate guy and likes to protect his team." - Shane O'Brien
    4 points
  39. I love Elliote Friedman. Only guy worth listening to in CBC
    4 points
  40. What a game, entertaining one for sure!
    4 points
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