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  1. And what you're failing to see is that games played in the NHL at this point is a meaningless stat. 9 players have played more games in the 2016 draft year than Juolevi, does that some how correlate or imply that they are better players, does that mean he's dropped in play? Does that mean Tkachuk is better? What you ignore is that in terms of progress from the 2014 draft year is that Jake has fallen well past the 12th and 14th, respectively. he's dropped past the top 30. I'd challenge to you to name 2 players taken in the 1st round of 2014 that had a worse year than J
    5 points
  2. I am always cautious with trying to compare one players development to another's because no two people are alike. I see these kinds of comparisons as being very broad strokes. Jake needs to be evaluated on his own merit. His development has been slow up to the mid point of last season but then seemed to make some positive strides forward. Green , Linden and Jimbo all spoke highly of his progress. It will be interesting to see what he does at camp with the improvements he has made.
    4 points
  3. IMO that Sedin thread should be pinned like the "Burrows? Do we really need him?" thread. That one was pinned after the trade so maybe the mods will pin a thread after they retire. Either way I think that is the perfect thread to pin because it really felt like a heartfelt message to the fans.
    4 points
  4. Not writing Jake off, but not giving him a unlimited amount of chances either. I think we both want to see what a properly motivated, prepared and fit Jake can do this season.
    3 points
  5. Tanev with a shot is an all star and probably an olympian. Temper your expectations
    2 points
  6. some guys are just late bloomers.......that's why I really wish it was a 20 yr old draft. Late bloomers get a chance to show, JR clubs benefit from keeping guys until they are done JR and drafted players can go right to their pro careers as soon as they are drafted.
    2 points
  7. Got to see Skillet in Regina last night. So good!!!!
    1 point
  8. Question: why is jake never apart of any prospect event? Wasn't at the past 2 prospect tourneys and hasn't been at the past 2 development camps. Why? Jake would have benefited big time being at these camps. I'm sure there must be a reasonable answer. I'm just curious as to why as Jake should be getting as much solid training in and team bonding in as possible.
    1 point
  9. I think that's a bit of an over exaggeration, i watched enough games in utica to know that he was extremely inconsistent, even in the last half. He would play 3-5 games working hard creating chances and then he'd the next 3-5 games off. This happens right up until the end of the year. The last 10 games when Utica was right in the middle of the push, i thought he didn't play that great, He was noticeable in maybe 3 games but disappeared on other nights, Kassian esq. In the end, he needs to translate things into some form of points, That doesn't mean being a point per game but i
    1 point
  10. I thought he played a lot like Stetcher actually. Let's see if he jumps over Subban in the depth chart the way Stetch and McEneny did.
    1 point
  11. I hope juolevi, rodin, virtanen, boeser all play unreal at camp i wanna see benning have to trade a few vets to make spots.
    1 point
  12. I wouldn't call the "PWF take longer to develop" theory to be a myth. I just think it's outdated. It used to be that bigger guys who used to rely on their size to dominate in junior used to come to the NHL and get a culture shock due to how much bigger and stronger NHLers were. This was a time when not much emphasis used to be put on strength and conditioning in the junior game. Now days every junior team is equipped with the facilities and the coaching for players to start training for the pros from a very young age. This is the single biggest reason why players are starting to become ready t
    1 point
  13. On the contrary- I'd argue that 99% of posters here have babied Jake with incessant excuses with the intention of hopefully one day seeing the mythical golden boy live up to the hype. If it's not the shoulder excuse, it's his immaturity. If it's not his immaturity, it's his weight. If it's not his weight, it's the org's fault for rushing his development. If it's not the org's fault, it's the Hitmen's dire development regimen that set him back. If it's not the Hitmen's fault, it's because of the mythical PWF theory. What a time to be alive.
    1 point
  14. Im impressed we can say asshole on CDC. My day is made.
    1 point
  15. Nope. Don't agree at all. I played with a ton of guys in my career and far more late bloomers were bigger guys who took longer to find their skating, their right playing weight and the exact nature of what game to play (e.g. they may have been great scorers in junior but had to modify in pro). In today's NHL, skating and conditioning are more important than ever and smaller frames adapt to that at a younger age on average. Even the non-drafted and late round guys who eventually make it are the bigger guys. So, I disagree so perhaps are realities are different. Smaller p
    1 point
  16. 12th and 14th out of 30 players in the first round (for NHL games and goals) is in the upper half. Not sure what is so hard for you and Forsberg to admit that - both 12 and 14 are higher than 15 when it comes to an ordered list. No one is comparing him to a bunch of cherry picked examples - at least I am not - I am simply saying, have have been, is that his NHL number of games and goals scored have been in the upper half of the first round picks in his draft year. No, not 6th overall but 12th and 14th, respectively. Moreover, the 5th and 7th picks in that draft have not had a
    1 point
  17. No way this is a 'demise or turning point' season for Virtanen. I will judge him at 24 years old.
    1 point
  18. This is Jakes show me season. For all the blather about being a bust or not, this season will be either Jakes demise or turning point. He is in shape, will be playing with more talent in the AHL by a wide margin. He isn't a line driver, but putting him with one would be the way to go this season. Batling adversity and adjusting to having to work for it vs it coming easily is Jakes fight. IMO he has the right coaches, the right training and now he just has to put it together. If we get a 210 lb fierce two way player with and endless motor and 20g potential, yeah t
    1 point
  19. A good season for Virtanen would be to make strides in Utica. Up his point total, particularly goals, and to become a dominant player physically on the ice, especially on the forecheck and around the net. He should have a better start to the season since he's in a lot better shape than this time last year. I don't expect him to play up here with the Canucks until later in the season, after he's made said strides. Barring a significant amount of injuries of course. As I stated a bunch of times hopefully he turns into a better version of Hansen(more physical/better scorer
    1 point
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