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  1. 51 points
    Bell Let's Not Talk. What a garbage company.
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  3. 47 points
    I've been following this forum since 2008 and it's always great to read different perspectives about this team that we all love. Although I've hardly posted over the years, I feel compelled to now because I think we have a team that is unlike any other we've had before; at least within the time frame that I've been following the Canucks (the 02-03 season, the glorious WCE days). The person at the crux of moulding this roster is the ever polarizing Jim Benning. Love him or hate him, you have to admit that his run as GM, from what he inherited to what he is building up, has been unprecedented. The following is my personal perspective on what his run has been like, and why we must be a little more patient and let him see his vision through. The end of the Gillis era was one of the most frustrating times for me as a fan. The team had no clear direction, random trades were made on a whim, the embarrassing goalie "controversy" & how that was handled, on top of the fact that we all knew the Sedins had a few more good years in them that were being completely wasted had all of us pretty exhausted. When Benning came in as GM in 2014, it was clear through interviews with him & Linden that the team was still aiming to compete, and moves made in the subsequent couple of years were a clear indication of that objective. Good or bad, it's pretty accurate to ascertain that ownership believed that the team could still be competitive, and moved steadily in that direction. I see every move made in this era as an attempt at a long shot playoff run, whether it's the Loui signing, the various trades, and all else. But things just did not work out, and finally during the 2017-2018 it became clear that we were undergoing a full fledged rebuild. This is where my assessment of Benning's tenure truly starts. If you guys recall, the 2017-2018 season started off quite strong until injuries decimated us. But Boes & Bo had solid seasons and there was this guy named Pettersson that was tearing it up and breaking records in the SHL. I remember feeling optimistic having 3 legitimate young players on the come up, right as the Sedins played their final season. When was the last time we had something like that? Keep in mind this was just about three years ago, which is not that long of a time span at all. We have witnessed a team that lost its two faces of franchise, was going through misguided hopes of playoff runs, and a guaranteed basement dweller go into its deepest run since 2011 and legitimately in talks of being a long term contender within the span of three years. I think a lot of fans would benefit to broaden their perspective on what is going on here. Everything seems to be evaluated on such black & white terms, whereas we have a team in hand that is so ahead of schedule and the envy of many fan bases around the league (whether they want to admit it or not). I look at Detroit, Colorado, Carolina, Toronto, Arizona, Buffalo, Minnesota, Edmonton, even Calgary & Montreal, and how long it took some of them to become competitive. I can't help but feel that some of us really take our situation for granted. On a few critiques that Benning gets, especially pertaining to this off season: There is no way I would be comfortable in having Marky & Tanev to those contracts long term. The only guy we lost that would make sense to still have is Tofolli, but you can't overlook the flat cap & the shady Lou recapture situation that blind sided us. Regardless, I have immense faith in Hog & it wouldn't surprise me if he ends the season with more points than Tofolli. His overall 200 foot game has so much potential as well. On the topic of the bottom six contracts, I agree they might be a bit overpaid, but look at where we were when we signed those guys, that veteran presence was essential. And there is no way we make a playoff run last summer without the likes of Sutter & Beagle. That's another aspect you cannot look at in black and white terms because the value of these guys is what teams like Edmonton, Buffalo, Arizona, and currently Ottawa have all lacked. It is entirely unreasonable to believe that this season or last would be seasons we'd be competing for the cup; the time frame when these contracts hold their greatest weight on the cap overall. When it's said & done, especially with majority of those contracts coming off the books as soon as this off season, I think our team long term in context of creating a team culture and helping our young players develop, has been better off with those guys being around than without them. I want to close by again underscoring the fact that we are in an unprecedented situation. The WCE era and the Sedin era are the two most prolific times our team has had in the past 20 years. But both eras had a 3-4 year window, as those players peaked a bit later in their careers. With the team we have now, we have already gone further than the WCE ever did, and this is a team that has truly only been assembled and taken direction in the last 3 years. The window here to be legitimate contenders seems to be open for several years to come. Our core is young, and they are coming into their own in a positive and competitive team culture & environment, that many other rebuilding teams lacked. And the man at the helm of this has had his ups & downs but he's done something in the last three years that majority of teams around the league would take in a heart beat. So let's keep our perspective focused on the long term, understand the gray areas that challenged our team, and ultimately enjoy this era. I will openly admit I was wrong if management takes a blatant wrong turn, but with the hand that was dealt turning into what we have now, I am greatly looking forward ahead to being a Canucks fan. Cheers & take care guys
  4. 46 points
  5. 42 points
    keep in mind he's only 18, lots of room to grow
  6. 40 points
    LOL @ Vancouver media and their "sources". I applaud Aquilini for having a backbone. If this season is a write-off, the decisions on management can made after this season. As much as I question Travis' coaching, along with his assistants, I do believe this is the right move to keep things intact. Fans who don't want to watch the Canucks can watch the Sens or Sabres. I honestly think our fanbase is too toxic. We are basically BEGGING the media to make up news to support what fans want to hear. LOL. The result? Journalism without accountability.
  7. 37 points
  8. 35 points
    Holtby throwing his Hat for Sutter’s Hatrick because he’s the only one in the building wearing a hat is the most wholesome thing I have ever seen
  9. 34 points
    The logic behind letting Tanev, Markstrom, and Toffoli walk: By choosing to move forward with guys like Holtby, Schmidt, and Virtanen over Markstrom, Tanev, and Toffoli, Benning is thinking long term and not short term. Yes, we only saved 1.8 million in overall cap but those terms that Markstrom and Tanev got would have hurt us long term. As far as Toffoli goes, the Canucks were reportedly trying to move one of Boeser and Virtanen to clear space so that they could accommodate Toffoli’s salary but received low ball offers. Had Benning accepted those low ball offers for either of Boeser or Virtanen, he would have been ridiculed around the league. In fielding offers for Virtanen, the Canucks were looking to recoup the low first that was lost in the Miller deal, while looking to recoup both the first and good prospect lost in the Miller and Toffoli deals as it related to Boeser (NOTE - Canucks were looking to move ONE of Boeser or Virtanen in the summer, not both). At the start of the 2022/2023 season, we will have the following: 1) All of our bad “rebuild/transitional” contracts will be off the books. 2) Horvat, Schmidt, and Miller will still be on cap friendly deals while Boeser will still be a cost controlled asset as an RFA. 3) Guys like Pettersson, Hughes, Demko, Hoglander, Podkolzin, etc., will be closer to their peak. The next two seasons could be our version of the 2007-2008 season (I.e a regression after having made an unexpected 2nd round appearance a year prior, which is then followed by a window of elite hood), but our cap structure fully indicates that we will likely enter a window of elitehood starting in 2022-2023. My suggestion for my fellow Canucks fans is as follows: 1) The future is still bright. 2022/2023 is when our real "window" will start. This season and maybe even next season is our 2007/2008. 2) Be patient and enjoy the ride.
  10. 34 points
  11. 32 points
    Hope they can build off that win with no letdowns. Keep on rollin' And did anyone else hear the banter on 650 today?? I generally love the station but shut it off, was so ticked off. Do we always have to whine about something? The topic being discussed was JT Miller's "outburst" last night....like why is this even a thing? Why the hell are we going there when there was a good win last night that could be the focus? They were slamming him .... this is a damned if you do/don't market and I won't tune in for that crap. I LOVE that he was so emotionally invested and intense. Even with them way ahead...it shows that he was not yet satisfied and that's a good thing. Social media fuels a lot of this stuff and I wish they'd stop always LOOKING for controversy. Can we just have a win and a reprieve for a night? 650 will lose me if they start being a bunch of whiny drama kings and queens. JT swore and broke a stick. OMG It's hockey, get over it.
  12. 31 points
  13. 31 points
    If MacEwen is only going to play four minutes, then might as well not play him at all and play with seven defencemen instead. Green has mentioned that the team looks tired due to the schedule, but he hasn't been managing the minutes very well.
  14. 30 points
    Putting aside the game result, which I won't comment on... it looks to me that Olli Juolevi is finding his skates in this league. Kinda reminds me of Dan Hamhuis with his offensive vision... he has an understanding of the pass in the offensive zone and when to jump up... handles the puck with a calmness which is promising. He isn't putting up the points yet, but I predict he will... he is just starting to get his head wrapped around what he needs to do to contribute. Defensive play is better too... after the mixed results early on in the season. His weak point is to get to far into the O-Zone and get caught, but that is improving. He shows his calmness in the D-Zone too... I think he will be a solid #3 or #4 D if he can put some meat on his bones, get up close to 200 lbs and get some more confidence.
  15. 30 points
    Given how challenging the last year has been for all of us, I want to take this opportunity to thank the Canucks ownership group for their commitment to the team and the fans. Having hockey to watch again during the pandemic is a blessing. Estimates are it may be costing our owners a loss of about 40m to have our team play this year. So thank you Francesco and family for your commitment to Vancouver, the Canucks and the fans. It would be a long winter without hockey to watch. Sometimes we forget when somebody does something above and beyond. Ya I get the fact that it is a business blah blah. But it needs to be recognized when people in our community step up like this and put their money on the line to preserve a team we dearly love and provide a reason to cheer or smile (or a reason to complain lol) for all of us 3 or 4 nights a week at time when we all need it. Well done! Fanfor42.
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  18. 27 points
    Lol at our media and the panicky fans The best organizations have stability. That doesn't mean there can't or won't be changes, or that there isn't room for improvement. But knee jerk, reactionary, panicky moves out of desperation that the fans and media have been clamoring for, are not how good organizations are run. Glad to see him make this statement.
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  25. 23 points
    He's had 11 points in the last 12 games and is only -1 in those 12 games, despite our 6-game losing streak. He's fine.
  26. 23 points
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  28. 22 points
    I really hope we don't scratch Juolevi. We're at the point where this season doesn't matter anymore and it would make sense to play our younger players and see their overall progression by seeing them in game action and learning from their mistakes.
  29. 22 points
    What's annoying about Tketchup are not simply his antics - but also the responses to him. Myers had the best approach thus far this season when he simply got full value with a shiver. People whine constantly about Virtanen - but he's the only guy that got in Tketchup's face last night - dropped his gloves and was ready to go while Tketchup kept his on and clutch and grabbed in avoidance. Kudos to Virtanen for being game while not crossing the line and taking a penalty in a very tight game. The captain, on the other hand - looked away/turned the other cheek - where he needs to be showing Tketchup an appropriate level of both pushback and disrespect. That - along with another generally light effort by Horvat was the most disappointing aspect of that loss imo (and I'm not simply microing his back-breaking giveaway). Aside from set play powerplay goals and faceoffs - Horvat's game has been sub par - and when that's the case with your captain, it's hard to be calling out depth players - borderline inappropriate to be. Virtanen last night had 0% ozone starts, 41.7% corsi, 2 shots and a hit (in 6:52....Horvat had 2 hits in 19:54 to give with the LE snowshower non-hit on the forecheck). The goal after Virtanen didn't manage to clear the zone (with a fraction of time and a blueliner and Lucic on him...) - there were a chain of errors/mistakes on that play that preceded, included a worse failure to clear, and an exhaustion/frustration 'slash' that Juolevi took (an extremely rare incident where Juolevi wasn't at the top of his game). In any event, the dwelling on Virtanen gets that much more absurd on a night like last night - where the real gaffs - and vacancies - came from the top down. MIller has been taking comparable heat - but right before the Boeser goal to tie the game, he absolutely ran over a defenseman in the neutral zone and set the tone that, shorthanded or not, they meant business = that lifted the team. The other best hit of the night came in one of Virtanen's 6+ minutes - where he wrecked the opposing captain/Giordano.
  30. 22 points
    Kind of annoying that Juolevi is having a hard time slotting in. Baumer doesn’t trust him somehow yet the D core he assembled is responsible for the worst goals against in the league. Tell me how exactly Juolevi is going to hurt our chances? Gotta get him developing. His strengths are exactly what this team needs on the back end. Calm and a good first pass.
  31. 22 points
  32. 22 points
    Virtanen keeps getting older but 18 yr old Sam Bennett stays the same age.
  33. 22 points
    I lost a young friend over the holidays. Was talking to him, he's got work, friends, bright future, then he was gone. Something inside him said it was time to go. Thanks Bell for the campaign.
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  36. 22 points
    I really hate all the negativity, speculation and rumour mongering that happens when we're in a slump. Need to be put some (good) wins together and an end to it all. Hockey not soap operas. Get it done, boys....for everyone's sake.
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    The Trifecta of regret
  39. 21 points
    I actually hope Aquaman stays out of it completely. He hired JB for a reason - let him do his job whether that means trade or no trade. You either trust the person you hired to do the job or you don't. If you do you stay out of it. If you don't, then that person shouldn't be doing that job.
  40. 21 points
    I think you have that backwards... being messed in the head is generally what leads to supporting trump.
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  45. 20 points
    OMG Juice. World's biggest troll job (look closely for the Kes photo bomb). A bet HAD to have been involved in this.
  46. 20 points
    Bieksa calling out Canucks, as he should. Hire his ass! He should be a part of this team.
  47. 20 points
    @Squamfan lol he was trying to move contracts out to re-sign and was also trying to move contracts for other players as well, no one was biting, i love how simple you think his job is.
  48. 20 points
    Virtanen for Bennett makes a ton of sense....
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  50. 20 points
    I’m so pumped on Joulevi. So many clowns writing him off early in his career. Was a steady presence again tonight so happy he scored
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