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  1. No, that's whomever builds the team's fault. Ryan O'Reilly will be worth the contract when he learns how to win, but he has been part of a losing culture for so long. Pretty much all his career. I don't think I would want him showing the young guys on my team how to win when even he doesn't know how. They traded him for a few bottom 6 forwards who have consistently played playoff hockey. If I'm ownership, I'm wondering why I'm playing someone 7.5 mil a year who doesn't know how to win and then asking if we could pay that to a few players who do instead.
  2. Watch the patterns of losing teams and their players. When they become okay with losing, things have to change and you gotta bring the right players into the dressing room to help get them there. You don't just give a team leader that kind of contract without knowing how to turn the team around. Isn't the GM who gave him that contract fired now? Also there are exceptions to the rule, obviously. Those are your Crosby, McDavid, Ovie, etc guys. They are skilled enough, but still need that support group, obviously. This is hockey after all.
  3. His last playoff hockey was 5 seasons ago. That was when Patrick Roy was coaching. Someone who actually knows a ton about winning. Roy saw what was happening in Colorado at the time and he got out of the tire fire before it became worse. Like we all saw!!! R O'R could end up still being worth his contract, but he definitely needs to be part of a winning culture to get that worth back, IMO. Teams like Chicago, LA, Pittsburgh, Boston, Tampa, maybe Vegas (too early to tell) would all do great with him and probably turn his career around. When your main guys have great stat lines and great underlying numbers and your team is still losing, it becomes more about whether your leaders don't know or actually even forget how to win. I mean, it would definitely make me question giving a guy like him a contract like that. I could site more examples. Taylor Hall, Nuge, and Eberle. Before they came to Edmonton. Hall was part of the Windsor Spitfires and his team went to the memorial cup back to back years. His compete level was the reason why he was drafted #1 over Seguin. We all know about Jordan Eberle's big goals in the World Jrs. Nuge was even part of the many successful teams of Brent Sutter. They had hope because of being part of a winning culture. Then Edmonton let them have the reins and gave them zero support in the way of NHL experience with winning and getting into the playoffs. Hall soaks his coach with his water bottle. Eberle continued to have a great stat line and no showed in the one playoff appearance 2 seasons ago. Just like Nuge. Don't be naieve. Winning cultures in the dressing room and on the ice mean alot to a player's worth and if you're a smart GM, you don't issue a big contract to a player who doesn't know how to be part of the solution yet or forgot how.
  4. You wanna talk about contract worth? Okay! Not worth the long and nasty contract because he has consistently been in a losing culture and did nothing to actually make the team who signed him better. They actually got WORSE!!! But I suppose his contract is all good because his underlying numbers are very good, right...?
  5. Ya know...sometimes OldNews, "underlying numbers" just don't cut it with some players. They don't mean $#!+ if you continuously are playing in a losing culture and don't know what it means to start winning. O'Reilly has been on losing NHL teams...consistently. Even superstars are prone to this fate. John Tavares is a great player, but he still couldn't lift the Islanders past the first round and most of the time has been out of the playoffs for his entire career. I'm glad he's on the Leafs now because you can tell what they are trying to build and are on their way. And don't even get me started on Rick Nash when he was with Columbus. He had to get traded to NYR and Boston to even have more than a taste of playoff hockey. Kovalchuk is another one. Pretty much nothing until NJD. Building a winning culture doesn't just happen over night. You need guys with that compete level on that team to drive it forward because the winning culture becomes infectious, otherwise they start to get entrenched in that losing culture. Ryan O'Reilly is coming to a team who just traded away a couple of vets who are pretty damn used to playing playoff hockey and they just signed Tyler Bozak who is not used to playing much in the playoffs...and oh yeah. Brayden Schenn. Also not used to consistent playing in the playoffs. You have 3 pretty solid centers who don't REALLY know what it's like to play on an NHL team with a winning culture. Your guys down the middle have often been the leadership group on most teams. Now I ask you...how does this leadership group get back in the playoffs? Are your "underlying numbers" going to get them there or is building a winning culture going to get them there? I'm calling it now. STL are missing the playoffs.
  6. Yes!!!! There are many ways you can go about it too. I hear them all in my head right now.
  7. Which will be fine if Hughes chooses to play in college some more before turning pro
  8. I like one part of this. Can you guess the part of this situation I don't like? Give ya a hint.... It has sound effects like *crunch, snap, crack, oof*. I like the speed and the outlet passes, but putting Hughes with Tanev could be a very costly mistake for our first ever d-man with #1 potential. Guddy, Tryamkin, someone like Tanev, but who can turn the sandpaper in his game up to 11. Where can we find one of those?!
  9. I didn't even think about that. At least Pouliot or Hutton. Right now as it stands, those guys and Juolevi are the guys he has to beat to make the team. They better buckle down.
  10. We'll thank them for years and years by filling their nets with pucks! How bow dat?
  11. Has anybody ever seen Jim Benning this excited?! He wasn't even this excited about Petterson and he is looking outstanding. I get the feeling he absolutely nailed this one. Also f@(€!ng Sportsnet trying to jinx us with that Stojanov mention. Why ya gotta be like that?!
  12. Considering the last couple of seasons the team was terrible at scoring any goals, this is a step in the right direction.
  13. That too. How many of those have we had though which haven't turned out. Either way, I like how the team can monitor his progress and most importantly, physical development, closer.
  14. All I pretty much see is people talking about Petersson's size. I still think most of our scouts should be pulled out of Sweden and put in the WHL so they know where most of the talented players come from. That being said...this pick has shades of regret from not picking Willie Nylander instead of Jake Virtanen all over it. What I REALLY like about this pick is he can come over to N.A, be assessed by the team, and then sent to Utica to play big minutes and have his diet monitored, so he can gain that size we all are so worried about him not getting. Maybe he can get some chemistry with Jake down on the farm and they can make the team together, properly.
  15. Oh I honestly think it's time to pick a forward for sure. Just seeing things line up like that though and how our scouting dept is, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if this is our pick this year. It's like expecting Tkachuk's name to be called and then Benning saying "Olli Juolevi."
  16. If we drop outside of picking Hischier and Patrick, my money is on this guy being who we draft. $10 says our scouts were scouting him when Dahlen caught their attention and we traded for him, so....
  17. Not really. 2 points without McDavid 5 on 5. 2!!!!! That team would probably be doing as good as us right now if they didn't have McDavid. At least our guy can do things on his own. Lucic even got replaced by Pat Maroon on that line with Connor and at a fraction of the price. But that's the business. We aren't doing great, but I would rather have the guy who has the ability to create offense. Otherwise you get Anson Carter. I am pretty sure Edmonton didn't sign Lucic to be Anson Carter.
  18. Loui Eriksson, while still under performing (pretty much the whole team is) has 19 points in total and he has 13 points 5 on 5, which actually beats Lucic!!! Lucic Has 11 points 5 on 5 and only 2 of them are from playing without McDavid. I think it's safe to say McDavid made him better, but Lucic is still a slug and Not playing with Connor anymore unless it's the powerplay. So yeah, I am pretty comfortable in standing by this statement at the half way point of the season. The Oilers are doing well, despite Lucic. He is not really supplementing anyone's offense and seemingly has no ability to create any offense himself either. And they have this for 7 years....
  19. Oh definitely. Thing is, Larsen is possibly a 7-8 D. If Troy comes up, he's playing everyday.
  20. I think that was by design with the pairing. Especially since most of our forwards are going to be incapable of scoring in this tourney.
  21. I wanna see what Stetcher does against NHL level guys and to see if he can beat Larsen out for a spot. Last night he was flying out there!!! Him and Juolevi seem like a natural NHL pairing which we will see in 2 years, no question.
  22. I mentioned this last night in the Trevor Linden at youngstars Canucks talk thread. I guess I'm not the only one who thinks this...or Botchford stole that from me ....
  23. Lucic signing with the Oilers to play with McDavid is one of the most hilarious things I have heard this off season. How on earth does Lucic think he's gonna be able to keep up with Connor McDavid on the ice?! . If I were McDavid, I would be like . Lucic is a slug!
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