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  1. I think that if all the ask was Tanev and our 6th for #1 that deal would've been done already. Tanev is good, but we dont really need. The risk of Reinhart not turning out to be a very good NHLer is much less than someone at 6. We don't have a top C prospect, this gives us one. If Florida wants Tanev and our 6th for 1st, you do that deal. That would be the bold move the team needs. I just don't think Tallon will take that deal
  2. Edler needs someone with some offensive skill, Tanev doesn't bring any of that
  3. That's more realistic than 6th Tanev and Hansen for the 1st But does Buffalo pass on Reinhart?
  4. Do you really think the 6th is much more valuable than the 7th, 8th or a significant roster player? Limiting yourself to the 2-5th and throwing in a couple of fillers isn't really a competitive offer. Especially if their target is Ehlers, who likely isn't going in the top 6
  5. That's not good enough IMO, other teams can offer much more. A 3rd liner in Hansen and a zero offensive non-physical D isn't a tempting offer IMO. This isn't NHL 14 or MG on the other end. Adding Tanev and Hansen to that team doesn't make them a playoff team, so it's a no go. Teams like quality over quantity
  6. Well unless Garrison is willing to go back to Florida (doubt it) Hamhuis who was good enough for team Canada and a local BC boy (doubt he'd waive) Bieksa who clearly wants to win and has been here is whole career (not waiving for Florida) Edler who Linden said won't be traded I don't know how we can help them. Tanev is not good enough to warrant passing up your 1st. Do you really think if we want to trade a NTC they are going to list Florida on their list? I'm not undervaluing a 1st overall pick. The 1st overall pick is always significantly more value than the 6th, for one simple reason; you can pick anyone you want. Florida knows that, you aren't just getting what's left over. There's also a reason why 1st overalls are rarely traded and that's because the asking price is always extremely high. 1st overalls are always higher than they should be but that's the price when you get to chose who you want.
  7. Exactly people think that we have players of value, our team is a bunch of 3rd liners, they have 3rd line value. Sedins Kesler Kassian Horvat are the only forwards of any significant value. Garrison Edler Hamhuis Bieksa are the only D of significant value, none of which will be asked to waive a NTC. Tanev has moderate value. He's more of a throw in to tip the scales if we are moving one if our significant assets, by himself we ain't getting much.
  8. None of those are worth a 1st overall Hamhuis isn't trade worthy as he's a local guy who wants to play in Vancouver so cross him off. Jensen is a mediocre prospect that won't top any scales in a 1st overall trade scenario Same goes for Tanev, highly over rated in Vancouver and highly underrated around the league. I'm sorry but the only defenders in the league that are worth anything have to be an offensive threat. Tanev isn't and therefore isn't a selling feature in a trade. Garrison isn't leaving Vancouver to return to Florida. He's not Luongo Burrows at 34 isn't worth anything close to the 1st overall and likely wouldn't waive for Florida. Higgins Hansen Stanton aren't worth anything. They are throw ins. Kassian has value but I'm pretty sure Linden and Benning won't even consider trading him. He's what they are looking for.
  9. Oh don't worry you didn't say anything wrong, I'm just saying people here think any of our vets would waive to go to Florida.
  10. Except for the fact other teams know he wants out and only 6 teams can show interest not knowing if those 6 teams actually want him for what they'd have to give up. Few GMs are willing to give up purely prospects for near end of their prime players. For example Hextall has been quoted on saying he doubts he'd trade younger players for someone older, so now we are down to 5. Now does that mean even a guy like Schenn for Kesler isn't possible? Only time will tell
  11. Yea exactly, I wouldn't go, it's a nice place but if I'm pushing 30, and truly want to win, I wouldn't be signing in Florida especially if I just left there. It's funny how people think Garrison will go back to Florida when he just left; sorry he isn't Luongo
  12. Not saying I would do it but that is going to be the asking price. You won't be getting the 1st overall cheaper than that when everyone is asking. Every team wants to get younger, and every team is looking for that one player to build around, unfortunately that means you need to compete with every other offer. Since the Canucks have nothing of value to entice Florida, Horvat and 6th are the only worthy pieces we have to entice any sort of conversation
  13. Florida is a beautiful place but I would assume that our 4 vets, 2 of which are local and the other 2 recently signed long term extensions would prefer to stay here
  14. They need to get a proper partner for Edler something he hasn't had since Salo or even Erhroff
  15. Not if I was a veteran and actually wanted to win. If all they are looking for is a paycheck and a nice place to live then they'd accept. Bieksa Hamhuis Garrison and Edler prefer Vancouver over Florida as 2 have been here their whole careers and the other 2 have decided to return home. If any D gets moved on this team it's Tanev.
  16. If Benning wants Reinhart it would have to be Horvat and 6th. That will be the only deal that would interest Florida on par or better than what other teams would offer.
  17. Too bad they all have NTCs whereas Tanev doesn't. No one will waive for Florida or Buffalo, I sure wouldn't.
  18. I wouldn't of traded Schneider to Edmonton instead of New Jersey just because they were throwing in an insignificant asset So you are saying you'd trade Kesler to Anaheim over Pittsburgh if the only difference was a 4th round pick? or some crappy 4th liner you didn't really want? Part of you getting better is, you getting better in comparison to your competition. If the other team gets significantly better, have you really gotten any better? If the teams in California sucked this year, would the Canucks still have missed the playoffs? You can't just look at your team. Unless an overpayment is coming significantly better than any other offer, you can't trade Kesler to California. Getting better is always relative to what your competition is doing.
  19. actually i just listen to the videos with Linden and Benning both saying, we need to sit down with Kesler and see where he's at. If there wasn't an issue, why would they repeat that quote multiple times? So until I hear from Linden or Benning, that Kesler is happy in Vancouver and wants to remain a Canuck, the evidence is clearly in the way of Kesler having concerns with his future.
  20. I probably wouldn't trade him to California unless the return is crazy good, anywhere else in the West doesn't matter as much as we don't play non-divisional teams nearly as often under the new alignment.
  21. Kesler sure knows how to put up points at the expense of making everyone look bad. Great way to make yourself look valuable...
  22. Obviously there is an issue here. If there wasn't an issue, Linden and Benning would both say, I don't know what you guys are talking about, Kesler is a canuck and he wants to stay that way; they wouldn't say, I have to talk to him to see where he's at.
  23. I completely agree. Please get Edler a proper partner, much the same for the Sedins who played their whole career with 2/3rds of a top line
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