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  1. While I do agree that another Dman in a similar mold to Hughes and Juolevi may make us a tad one dimensional, beggars can't be choosers. With Trouba and Adam Fox as young, right handed Dmen that are likely going to be with the Rags for a long time, Lundkvist could be seen as a somewhat expendable (I use that term very loosely in this case) piece that could be moved in order to bolster their forward depth.
  2. Just saw a proposal by a Rangers fan on HFboards (the general section, not the cancerous Canucks section) involving right handed defensive prospect Nils Lundkvist. While I do think his proposal was tilted in the Rangers favor, there's no denying that this prospect is putting up spectacular numbers in the SHL as a 19 year old. 5 goals and 16 assists for 21 points in 28 games and a +16. Considering how desperate we are for a right handed D player/prospect with top pairing potential, I thought it would be interesting to get a discussion going. http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=210202 What would you be willing to give up for a prospect of this caliber?
  3. Doubtful it could happen without massive overpayments, but in Tanev's case it's not without precedence. In both 2013-14 and 2014-15 Tanev signed cheap, one year deals. If anything that probably means there's even less chance he'd do the same now, but it's worth noting nonetheless.
  4. Yeah, those guys are kind of longshot prospects anyways, but to a team like the Ducks, they don't exactly have a lot to lose, so why not? They'll have a better opportunity to crack their lineup than ours anyways. Rakell would look nice in a Canuck uniform, but I really think the priority should be the blueline, especially if we're going to be moving picks to shed salary. From a forward perspective we're set for the foreseeable future. Not to say that we shouldn't upgrade up the opportunity presents itself, but the weakness in our lineup and our prospect pool is pretty apparent. Aside from that, we're not in bad shape. Most teams probably aren't in a position to be able to write off a whole draft for the sake of shedding bad contracts. If this were to go down the way we're proposing, it would sort of be a testament to both GMJBs strengths and weaknesses as a GM xD
  5. Should we expect to see pics of Pettersson partying shirtless in a limo soon?
  6. I don't actually think that something like Pearson/Virtanen + a 1st rd pick is all that far off the mark value-wise, but I think you also have to look at what a particular player means to the team they play for as well. Domi is the only player under 26 in Montreal's top 6 point leaders. Contrast that with us, where we only have 2 players over 24 in our top 8 point leaders, and I think you get a pretty good indication of why it would probably take an overpayment to pry Domi away from the Habs.
  7. We can dive into analytics as much as we want to, but when you go deep enough you start to see discrepancies that are so razor thin that even a slight alteration to a lineup, a slight alteration to the player's fitness level or headspace, a change in coaching direction, etc etc etc...can have a pretty drastic effect. While certainly not as exact as smaller, analytical statistics, I still think that overall production is still the best indicator of how a player is doing, as it takes all of these analytical statistics into consideration, but is still on a general enough to compensate for slight discrepancies here and there. One also has to look at how well a player is passing the good old fashioned eye test. The main point of contention with Virtanen for years now has been his hockey IQ. "He has all the tools, but doesn't have the toolbox". It's a phrase we've heard a thousand times, especially as it pertains to Virtanen, and it wasn't without merit. He's always been great off the rush, but looked a bit lost when it came to half-court offense. When I watch him now, I'm noticing a pretty drastic change in that regard. He seems to be predicting where the play is going to go at a higher level than in years past. He's pushing the play forward as opposed to simply reacting to the play, and I think this is the biggest difference in his game right now. He recently said in an interview that he's been watching and studying EP and how he plays the game, and as we all know EP probably has one of the highest hockey IQs in the entire league. Even if it's superficial and he's merely mimicking some of EPs tendencies, it's having a tangible effect imo, and it's one of the ways that an addition to the lineup can have a significant effect on the players within that lineup. Just thought it was worth mentioning. As far as the arguments in this thread go, as with most heated debates, the answer I feel lies somewhere in the middle. He was never the bust that some here made him out to be, but with that said, he's probably never going to be on the level that a Nylander or Ehlers are either. In a redraft, both those players are gone well before Jake would be. That still doesn't mean Jake isn't a valuable part of the team and it doesn't mean he wasn't a good pick. It just means that he wasn't 'the best pick', and you know what? He doesn't need to be.
  8. At this point I'd rather attach picks to bad contracts than our higher end prospects. They're going to be on ELCs filling out our roster when we're ready to compete, whereas whoever we use our picks on are likely still several years away from even being considered NHL ready. Our blueline pool still needs some significant upgrading, but as far as forwards and goaltending go, we're in about as good of shape as any other team in the league. Horvat, Petey, Boeser, Gaudette and Virtanen are all 24 or younger, while Miller and Pearson aren't exactly old timers at 26 and 27 respectively, and with Lind, Podkolzin, Hoglander, Madden all pretty close and all having top 6 potential, we're set for the next decade or so in terms of forwards. It might be worth it to just write off a draft pretty much completely and use the picks as sweeteners to shed ourselves of bad salaries. With what Benning has done to restock the cupboards, I think he's earned the right use a few picks to fix some of the errors he's made without getting too much flack for it.
  9. If we're shipping out prospects that are likely going to be filling out our roster while still on entry level deals, doesn't it make the point kind of redundant?
  10. I think the point is that it's still semi-close value. Boeser is the example I would preferably use, but the point still stands. We're not landing a star player for the stuff lying in our junk drawer.
  11. An RFA can't "walk for nothing". And even if he could, chances are the Habs could do a lot better at the trade deadline than a 7th Dman, a injured middle 6 forward and a cap dump.
  12. Realistically speaking, if we really wanted Domi it would either be for a package like Pearson + Podkolzin + 2nd or Boeser straight across. I honestly don't understand why folks are so adamant about wanting another top 6 forward. We have Boeser on our 3rd line ffs xD
  13. Arguing with Canuck trolls on Twitter is a lot like arguing with spoiled children. Notice how they never actually bother trying to have a discussion in good faith. Disgusting people. 

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    2. Darius

      Darius

      i think a lot of those twitter trolls frequent HFBOARDS.   its funny reading through non canuck subforums on HFBoards , occassionally you will see the non canuck fans refer to the canuck hfboard as a cesspool.  its sad that we have such an ugly element in our fan base. Overtly cheering for losses and hoping our young stars dont produce...

    3. luckylager

      luckylager

      &^@# em.

      Some people are just miserable, don't let em harsh your mellow or waste your time.

    4. CanuckleHorse

      CanuckleHorse

      We have them so rattled that we own them they can’t stay away because they had their teeth’s kicked down their throats on many occasion and now are forever salty.

  14. How would you feel if the Habs offered Lehkonen, Mike Reilly and Karl Alzner for Brock Boeser?
  15. Ferland should sit for the rest of the season. Louis sits for Leivo.
  16. It's tough to say. There are a lot of great stories this year. -The most logical answer is probably Miller. We traded for a 45 point winger and wound up with a near PPG center with one of the best FO percentages in the league. That's a massive win however you slice it. - Pearson would be up there as well. He's been known to be a pretty inconsistent player throughout his career, and I keep waiting for the wheels to fall off, but they just aren't. He's on pace for 60+ points, has great chemistry with Bo, plays a nice heavy game, can play at both ends of the rink and plays both specials teams. We got that FOR GUDBRANSON. - Virtanen and Gaudette's progression kinda goes without saying, but I think they were both at least somewhat expected to improve upon what they did last year, although with the way preseason started for Virtanen, he probably should be in the conversation as well. - I'd like to throw an honorary shoutout to Leivo as well. Most of us questioned Green when he showed such obvious favoritism to Leivo to start the season, but the guy kept improving and improving, to the point where he was looking like a top 6 forward playing with Bo and Pearson. It's such a damn shame that his season ended the way it did. Hopefully we can resign him for a reasonable price and he's able to continue building on the success he was having before he went down. I imagine he's have pretty similar numbers to Virtanen had he not gone down - Biggest disappointment would be how the Ferland signing has turned out thus far. I thought it was a great move at the time. Didn't know his concussion issues were so bad, considering he didn't miss much time last year. I really hope they sit him out for the rest of the season and let him start fresh next year.
  17. I'm not going to go nuts with the expectations just yet, but it's really great to see how much his game is improving. With the way people have been crapping on Juolevi, it's nice to see him taking steps to prove the trolls that weren't willing to take his injury issues and the jump to the AHL into consideration when gauging him wrong. And most importantly, his +/- is even. I know we joke, but that's a pretty far stretch from where it was just a couple weeks ago. It's almost as though he just needed time to develop or something
  18. Gotta say, it's really nice to be able to take some of the ammunition away from the trolls. If Virtanen can keep up this level of play full time he will have at least partially justified his draft position. Not counting 2019 (still too early), that'll be 4 first round hits in 5 years for GMJB. Virtanen, Boeser, Petey, Hughes. On a side note, Juolevi's play has really picked up in Utica as well. 11 points in his last 11 games for 19 points in 33 games on the season, and that 'atrocious' +/- of his has completely evaporated, as he's now sitting at an even rating. If he were to pan out as a top 4 Dman as well, the trolls would literally have no ammo left at all.
  19. He's only credited with 19 points on hockeyDB. Was one of his assists taken away from him?
  20. Pretty difficult to find anything to bitch about tonight, other than the fact that the team was snakebit for the first two periods...well, except for Louis. Go figure. Top to bottom it was one of the best wins of the season. Sure, it came against a lousy team, but at no point did it ever look like we were going to give the Sharks a chance to breathe, and we didn't. Quinn Hughes was absolutely phenomenal tonight. Every time he was on the ice he did something amazing. It is such a treat to watch this kid night in and night out. Tanner Pearson has lowkey gone from a placeholder to a core piece. A guy that's generally been criticized for his inconsistency, but he just isn't slowing down. On pace to absolutely demolish his career best. Awesome to see Virtanen taking the next step in his game. One less piece of ammunition at the troll's disposal if he's able to keep up this level of play full time. You can tell by watching him that he's thinking the game at a much higher level than he has in years past. Very impressed with the impact that Sutter has made to that fourth line. Schaller just wasn't getting it done, and Sutter just adds so much more. Better defensive play, better offensive player, and he's even playing with some bite. It's a shame he can't seem to stay healthy because having Sutter in the lineup makes the team better. Just a super solid win from top to bottom.
  21. Sounds like a perfect Edler replacement.
  22. It's a bit of a tough call now, isn't it? At the time of my initial post, Virtanen was looking as low as he ever has. Green had relegated him to the second group and he was apparently showed up to camp a bit out of shape. How things can change in 4 months. As of this moment, it's hard to say. If we're talking Boston or Washington's 1st, I may actually decline. If we're talking a mid 1st it'd still be pretty hard to say no, but my perspective has definitely changed. He has slowed down a little bit as of late, only collecting 3 points in his last 8 games, so we'll see whether or not he's able to put up top 6 production moving forward in the second half of the season, but if he's able to net 20 goals and 40+ points to end the season and close in on 50 points next season that would be pretty awesome. I see him topping off putting up Chris Kreider-esque numbers, which would at least somewhat justify his draft position. But yeah, at this point I'm not moving him unless someone blatantly overpays.
  23. 13 points in 47 games and a -14. Granted, this season is likely an anomaly, but if the defenseman you're after is capable of having a worse season than Tyler Myers, it's probably not worth giving up a 22 year old near PPG player on a good contract.
  24. If we want Dumba, it's gonna cost us Brock, and I don't think I'd be willing to pull the trigger on that.
  25. Holy $&!#balls edit: @Googlie beat me to it.
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