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  1. Yeah I agree, what the player agrees to in salary really talks about their character and that does play a big part in picking an option. The reasons why i like Miller and Quinn too. You can pick all skilled players, but that doesn't always equate to a Championship Team.
  2. There are small differences but over all they are comparable. Petey is a couple of more years in development but Hughes's 43 goals last year definitely sticks out. Hughes at 8 mill for the next 7 years, its a no brainer, considering what Petey is going to ask for. That extra cap space would make the team behind him, that much stronger.
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    I am with you on your take on this as well. For me, its all about being well rounded and part of that is being able to deal with physicality when it presents itself. Most of the time, its not needed, but when it does, you should be able to be up to the task. Yes Linden was very good at this, he hardly ever needed it, but he brought it when he needed to. Bure was the only one I seen take some extra attention but we all know how that ended for Churla. Overall, that team endured physicality more so then the teams that followed, and I think Linden had a lot to do with that. I have seen many of our stars take beatings over the years and other teams know this. How do you knock the Canucks off their game? Get physical with them. Ferlund knows this all too well. A non-physical Captain may be able to take us to War, but someone with a little more physicality brings us another dimension which may help when the opportunity arises. I do think Hughes checks all the other boxes though,which will make him a great Captain, including taking the team first before his own personal wishes, another trait Linden carried as well.
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    I am just hoping for something new. We need a new attitude and desire to win at all costs. We have been way to comfortable with losing. If we are behind in a game, I would like to see this team find a way to fight back. A change would be good either way.
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    "It's an honour to play here" This all I need to hear from our Captain.
  6. I am so glad Alvin and Co. seen through his BS too. To think about us keeping him and trading Miller would have taken us so far back, we would be probably looking at a full rebuild by now. He was way overrated and didn't possess the leadership qualities that was needed to take this team into battle.
  7. What's really funny is that neither of us know what he is thinking although you are acting like you know exactly what he is thinking. If you respect Horvat in what he did to accomplish what he did last year, then good for you. I hope he is very happy in NY. I guess you like stats in place of team wins, thats your perogotive I guess, to each their own. Horvat is a lot closer to 5 million then 8 million and I can tell you that for free.
  8. You know the " I am going to concentrate on the season " you know, before the season has started? This management team seem to want to pay their players "fair market value" , I am thinking Petey didn't think it was "fair market value" enough. The only reason for the pause(contract talks) is so he can pad his stats to make his worth a little more. You know, kinda like his pal Horvat did? If he decides to sign contracts like Miller or Hughes did, then I will admit I was wrong. If he holds out for more? Well, that remains to be seen and we will see what his real intentions are.
  9. I agree , we have to strike a balance between needs now and into the future. Getting another guy like Hronek in that age range(25-26) gives us time to draft and development players before we require replacements for them.
  10. I have concerns as well. He recently was getting help with faceoffs and still needs to show he is a playoff performer. I would hate for him to sign a long term deal and is not able to carry the team in the playoffs. His attitude is eeriy similar to Horvat. Coincidence?
  11. I think this will come once we get away from trying to be super skilled and build a team from the 1st line to the 4th and all the dcore lines with everyone having a role to play. Vegas does a great job of this and I don't think we will get there until we get rid of our said "Soft " players.
  12. I think you are exactly right with this, when we got out of the plumber attitude where we worked hard and grinded out games, we got more talented and those talented players thought that they needed to apply less effort to the weaker teams. The problem is, that there is so much parity in the league that once you do this, it back fires on you. This goes with the lackluster play where we hit less, back checked less, checked with our stick instead of the body and skated away from scrums. It was very maddening to watch our beloved team get so far away from playing basic hockey and moving towards fancy plays which never had any success in the playoffs. This newer group knows what it takes to win in the post season which has been long overdue and needed with this club.
  13. I don't know, there are a lot of assumptions in this article. For one, I don't think Alvin and Co. are going to give any one player the ability to dictate how they are going to plan a successful team and two, is there really pressure to make the playoffs, THIS YEAR? Judging from how they have conducted themselves so far, they are not caving in to players demands(Horvat) nor have they band aided the line up by signing older players long term contracts. Their plan seems to be more of a longer term plan where there is the ability to succeed with a bigger window of opportunity. I am seeing a bit of learnng from past mistakes and not repeating them, as the order of the day. Very refreshing to see. I would be willing to forego instant success in order to hold on to a few more draft picks and build up the future while simutaniously building a wiining team the right way.
  14. I think what you failed to mention is that they have won Cups in one capacity or another and that is all I am worried about. They know what it takes to get to that next level. We couldn't even get this team to work hard or stick up for each other. RT has changed that. Alvin is bringing in players who follow that mentality as well. Can we say the same for Myers? Horvat? Boeser? I say give them as least a full season before drawing any conclusions.
  15. I think what he is trying to say is that there is a lot of parity in this league and things like key injuries can make or break your season. I don't think we have Powerhouse teams anymore, including Vegas, that totally dominate the league. I think most teams can beat anyone on most nights, especially if they are a hard working team with a good system. Look at the teams which got knocked out in round 1 of the playoffs last year , which included the Lightning, Avalanche and the Bruins. Those are some pretty good teams that were knocked out by some seemingly more inferior teams.
  16. Wanting to gut this team if they don't make the playoffs this year is being impatient. Like I said, they were assessing last year and I am pretty sure they got stuck with a few players I am sure , they wanted gone. Nothing happened with OEL, so they had to buy him out. This year, they will try to get this group to gel , as there are many changes from last year. I am sure they are still assessing, so there will be movements made as opportunities present them selves, as how we acquired Hronek and how we were able to get a good return for Horvat. Because they are being patient about it, we are not making rash decisions, this is not how we did business in the past with Benning. It seemed like he panicked every time he made a decision. So should they be punished for not getting this team Contender ready in such a short period of time? I would rather they build it the right way, even if it takes a little more time. The true measure I believe, is that they improve year over year as opposed to saying that they need to make the playoffs and everything else is a failure. Like many have said, lots of things dictate success or failure including injuries, teams gelling and contract disputes etc. Last years failures had a lot to do with our #1 Goalie missing most of the season. This happens. Peteys situation is going to fall entirely on him as he can find a spot on this team like Hughes or Miller did?, or, he can follow the path like Horvat and see how that turns out for him. I seriously don't want to have anything to do with him if that is his intenetions, no matter how talented he is. We all seen how much of a cancer a player or two can be when they are only thinking of themselves and not their team and team mates. I don't think that is what he is like, but if he is, he can go and we can find a player who wants to be here and wants to be part of the solution to winning instead of blaming others for the inabiility to gain success.
  17. Vegas does not rely on 1 or 2 players, they play as a complete team, hence what makes them so successful IMHO.
  18. Unfortunately , your not going to convince the "DOOM AND GLOOM" Club of any common sense. They don't see that Bo was an issue, BB was an issue, Demko's injury was a BIG issue , the PK was an issue etc. etc. We have better coaching, a healthy Demko, some anchors removed and a much improved D core. Getting rid of Benning itself is going to prove Franchise Changing! These guys are also so impatient its mind boggling. We obviously have personnel that obviously aren't wanted but we are stuck with them for the time being. I think after this season, the team is going to look more like what Alvin and co. were looking for , but its by no means that team now, so why be so critical of them? I am willing to be a little more patient and wait a while longer before thinking of tearing this team down! LOL. Judging from past moves by NHL teams, most of their fantasy moves would never happen in the first place. Moving 30+ million worth of players like its a video game is dreams these guys think might become a reality one day. I am thinking probably not.
  19. Your forgetting that the new management has barely had a chance to undo some of the ridiculousness that has plagued us from the Benning era. Coaches like Willy, BB and Green were not good for us. Also, some of these players have to take responsibiity as well. Bo was not a good leader, Myers sucked as did OEL. Boeser just can't get it going and Benning was collecting small wingers and PMD like they were going out of style. I don't expect a calvary, I don't expect the playoffs. I expect a team to start playing like a real hockey team(i.e.Vegas,Seattle) and get rid of these over priced whiney babies who only care about how much they are going to get paid.
  20. What! Yeah lets trade off a 23 year old phenom , in which we have been looking for for this franchises entire existence, in hopes that we may draft and develop another one down the road? That is beyond ridiculous IMO.
  21. .......and haven't we heard this story line before. We got rid of that character. The character of the team is huge and if he does not possess that attribute then I don't want him anywhere near this team anyway. If you are thinking of yourself, before your team? Then its time for you to go.
  22. Again you are speculating that these "High end picks and prospects" are a "for sure" and are again going to lead us to the promised land and how does one player make or break you as a Stanley Cup contender? Do the other 20 plus players not matter? Look at teams like Buffalo, who pick high for many years with no hardware to show for it or Edmonton and all of their #1 overalls. I happen to want to see a Cup in my life time too, I just don't follow the same logic you do in how to get there.
  23. Not to mention this is the type of hockey that gives you wins in the playoffs. Maybe that why we have Presidents trophies but no Stanley Cups?
  24. Oh you mean when Benning was in charge? There is new blood in town who know what they are doing for a change.
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