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[Signing] Canucks re-sign J.T. Miller
Phat Fingers replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
I was thinking that it would about EP40 and or Demko… JT being kept was the smart move, he was our best player last year. IMO. Demko is second on that list, but in terms of offence skill at scoring and making his line mates better and leading from the bench, not sure where Demko stacks up as compared to JT and Hughes…. Do you get me now Agent? -
[Signing] Canucks re-sign J.T. Miller
Phat Fingers replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
Does this mean I can finally swear my ass off… finally… also, in my bad Ukrainian assoff is a family term… -
[Signing] Canucks re-sign J.T. Miller
Phat Fingers replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
8 mil per with his Shooting percentage stable over his career, plays equally great at wing or Center, makes those around him better and has Epic fitness, and size with IQ and is the best player on the team atm not named Quinn Hughes. yup! JT Miller is our most effective forward by a mile and bellow market at this time for a player of his caliber. Future problems are in the future, But in the mean time…. Signing JT and Brock this off season settles the club, JB is better than many see, Rutherford’s putting the finishing touches on, that is it. RHD and or sign De haan and unload Garland for cap space if needed. Picks or what IDK, but it’s the cost of unloading cap in the cap era, unless Rathbone is ready for prime time in a 4/5 roll on the left side…. -
Also as a solid 3/4 RHD who could put up 30/40 points a year with the ability to fight. Why is it so hard for this club to draft guys who are right shots like KB3 in the 3-5 round ever draft, if one is in the top two rounds, and in the right spot, take the RH shot. cause one of those guys may have more fight in them than the others, and that’s exactly how KB3 made it to the NHL. he understood that breaking in is one thing, and staying in is another. He did both as a 5th rounder.
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KB3 by a mile, even though Burke did draft him and how KN3 got his first pro contract was hilarious. Setting Sergei’s younger brother in his ass in a bar fight. Burkie and Quinn wanted Linden because he was off cattle ranching with his father as his family needed him to geld bulls vs show up for a pre draft thing, But I think KB3 will be a GM one day and an excellent one. He has a very ground up background and has real accumen and knowledge to go with his highly respected career and had he and the club won vs Bos in Game 7, he would be an Icon. KB3 is my favourite Canucks D Man, as a player and with character. never the best but never backed down and he was feared in any fighting sense. Never a bully but always stood up for others and himself. can’t say the same for Burke.
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Exactly. the team has a fun playing style, lots of Swedes on the roster and playing opposite another vet like OEL or a wonder kid like Hughes is a perk.
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PTO Stralman, sign him for a one year deal, play him on the 4/5 spot with Schenn Myers getting played with Hughes and or Rathbone. not a lot of RHD offence, but some at times and size plus veterans to support the two younger guys. Poolman and Burroughs get the bottom 2 spots and Woo gets to pick a position in Abbey. Lol. it’s affordable and adds depth at a key position.
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I would look at De Haan, PK and Stralman and take one. ZAR would be welcome in my bottom six any day. A OEL Stralman pairing could be a really decent minute munching tandem for a year. Taking pressure off Myers and Schenn, buying time and not surrendering a future roster spot in one to two years time when hopefully a legit option appears. I think it Stralman as a RHD Edler like we saw two years ago. I would sign that guy.
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Isn’t 15 where Caufield taken a few years back? Lekkerimaki has a solid frame, super young and bigger at the draft than his listed draft weight, a normal thing for kids his age. his pure shooter abilities may have spooked people into a believe that he is one dimensional… idk why he fell. unless some how there was an inverse in analytics, as JL has some great numbers. Wingers are not a prized, but we have room to add younger wingers around a core of really solid centers, Ala penguins and flip assests to gain some depth elsewhere. Honestly I would have flipped JT Miller for a top 5 pill and landed one of the Czeck RHD… but I am in a dark basement on Infor Wars too, so whatever… with JL, Podz, Hogz, Klimovich as all having some potential or ability to be productive wingers in the top six, what type of room does that give Alvin to bump a players numbers next season and flip say a 20g Pearson to a contender for a decent pick or prospect back at the TDL… or Garland? Pearson has value to a contender as a depth player who can screen and play a physical game without giving up bad penalties. Podz is already filling that role, Klim could be another and Milkalev is middle six proven and physical too. But JL has Top Line potential as much as Brock or Petey IMO. A step above the other young guys in pure offence and adds a top line element potential that is currently beyond Brock and only Podz has sings of equal but different skill set. A line of Petey 1.0 with Podz on one wing and JL on the other, that’s a blend of size, skill an shooting that would be exciting to watch and hard to defend. with JT likely being moved out, I only hope we get a depth center and a capable RHD on an affordable contract back in cap room along with whatever picks and prospects that can be had. With Petey and Horvat, we have two quality top six centers to turn a winger factory on. if only this team would start hands g out free hockey equipment to every kid with skates that shoots right in BC or something, as with Hughes and OEL it’s reasonable that any decent RHD would shine or improve their numbers with either in regular use that are burried on other teams… but alas, it’s like a blind spot, but JL is a salve for the wounds of the past.. likely candidate for ‘steal of the draft’ as soon as he lines up in the NHL.
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This is the line that JB was fired for, ‘of having too few management staff and not allowing Brackett and others a free reign at the draft’ to paraphrase the basic media spin and broad anti Benning spin that erupted nearly immediately at his hiring. but now when good players who were longer shots start to show as good picks or to have some potential, JB has no inputs, no idea and doesn’t even know who these players are? for a life long hockey guy and career scout, I doubt he just forgot or left it all up to the very scouts he supervised and the very and only reason he was able to recover from a lot of weaker areas in his management skills. Had there been a way to clone JB with MG we would be a dynasty. both were weak in the opposite direction. but scouting was the only thing that saved JB’s ass with Aquaman after all those &^@# ups. He got some things wrong, and really tended to over correct in his top picks, but he may be the most hated GM in club history, yet had given us the most young stars on a Nucks roster since the Linden Bure era. credit were due.
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[Signing] Blue Jackets sign Johnny Gaudreau
Phat Fingers replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
This is a great move for Vancouver. we add the best shot in the draft and Calgary loses Theron Fleury again. The bitter sweat tears in the hot dry future desert of ‘Cowtown’ are delicious. -
Who are the floaters in the top six we should get rid of?
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Date is 2017. FIFA still liked him and Germany too. Malkin also has family in Russia, so it is never a good idea to be the first to say no to a dictator.
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Cup winners over time run their prospect pools down, it’s more about the right mix, ie right handed D men… but the pens continued to bring in young players either thru drafting or getting guys like Gustav Forsling for some guy named Glen who… Etc… they can boost a player and trade them, trade a guy that then comes back as an FA, cause everyone loves a winner… baby… whatever magic Rutherford has, whatever his mentorship and good graces mean, it’s like having a happy Stan Bowman or a Lamorilo (sp?) but one you could want to have hand out Christmas presents to you kids at the staff party and not make them cry. it’s been a long time, and if the magic can take hold again, I think that there will be a number of key players that will be drafted by JB, but JB wasn’t able to take the next step after the bubble run. it’s easy to repeat mistakes, and harder to find success after losing it. Drafting is all about position. these clubs get repeat top 3 picks for years, struggle for years to get there. Had Bo not gotten hurt, a rare event, I think the team would have squeaked in… either way, the club is better than their record this year and the cohesion on the defence side will be much smoother this year with the group mostly returning. so I expect to see big improvement, especially in the first 25 games. but I am truly hoping to see a trade with our pick, up with sweeteners, and or down to add a pick in the top 50. I don’t see a lot of gap in the bottom 15 in the first… but I see major upside in Nemec or Jiricek, both would be fantastic additions and please, can we get Maverick! Just cause one all name drat player a year… and he is a snarly RHD who can skate with size.
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The Elite Defencemen of this Generation Thread
Phat Fingers replied to HKSR's topic in General Hockey Discussion
Seem to remember that Makar was the Nucks top rated player, was for a few teams, and over Petey. -
Kuzmenko makes Pearson very costly and can be the same if not better type of player. Pearson has a large body and can skate… so hard to say but I see Podz on Millers wing, Petterson and Horvats spots are interchangeable Boeser is with either Horvat or Pettersson, but the run of Podz Garland and Miller was so good at creating turnovers in the forecheck, why would you ever split them up.. Even making a super pest line with Garland Horvat and Podz, providing that someone makes Horvat slightly edgier… it would be fantastic at creating offensive draws where Petey can slide into a double shift on Horvat wing… so many combos with the line up hard to defend players… the return for any Miller trade better be huge, cause next season could be worth losing him at the end… or paying to keep him anyways… also that fourth Line is affordable even with Dickinson… how much was the last one… lol. hoglander… drops a line Pods goes up two
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Here are the things I have heard from the same people on the tube that have watched Kuzmenko, he has an intence work ethic and great shot. He is a good size and can find the spots to be ready for a pass really well, and a late bloomer. The work ethic and his former teammates work ethics on display for us last season in Vasily make for a positive outlook. this is Rutherford’s and Alvins work that went to us instead of Pittsburgh. If the Pens had just picked up Kuzmenko, everyone would slagging whomever was our GM at the time for missing an opportunity, now we get, lower expectations and Debbie downer statements… are you not entertained? Isn’t this exactly why Rutherford was hired…?
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With Kuzmenko, who leaves? I don’t know enough about Kuzmenko to predict, but I know that the Pens have been excellent at identifying players that can gain more out of star players, a fundamental weakness with the Canucks, in their history, to put serious effort and or results in getting the right linemates for out best talent.
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I forgot to add, there are a number of RHD in the second round worth the pick, so the BPA should be measured with team needs. We don’t need wingers atm, we don’t need golalies in the first, so it’s centres or D men with RHD as the unicorn.
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The need for a solid Center is as almost as much as the need for a quality RHD. So if Geekie could be a player who has a correctable skating or coach able to the NHL level with his projected size and reach with his skill, then he would be impossible to pass on, same with Kaspar… er…? Unless one of the D men come into reach even Kevin K as a LHD, th future asset and or possible ability to have Hughes move to the right, giving him an excellent ability to cross ice to a LHD with a cannon or better shot and cross ice to Miller and or down to Petey in a PP situation while shooting from his off wing, well that’s also enticing. I want to acquire a second, by moving Pearson, as to be honest, there is one player in the forward group that plays the way I want most to play. In terms of energy, that is Garland, who is a must keep for the money. For the money and the need to increase depth in the back end or anywhere else, if a second could be acquired via trade where a core asset is not given up and or the cap doesn’t increase, then I am all for it. I don’t think the club and Brock are done, and I think that he stays and who is taking Dickinson at the moment. What else can we ship out to get a second, unless the club as a forward plan to next draft to flip assests and or sign a RFA to a offer sheet. Which has been discussed
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I will add, had JB treated Zack Kassian like he treated JV and Kassian got support here instead of Edmonton, we would be a harder and better team, and Petey would have a fearsome winger. That’s what blond spots do, well have them and JB reduced his management team which also reduced his full vision of the organization, a fatal flaw and every Management team and or group has flaws… Chicago has its own flaws, and they won cups, Boston used the power of its owners position in the NHL to influence as much of the outcome as possible, something we all witnessed in the SCF… but there are some wanting Q from that very club, one that has a horrible flaw, and not Bruce, because they only want to win…
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Fred, you cannot recognize or acknowledge the good parts of the equation either. everyone makes mistakes and or learns from them. JB made a mistake in his first draft pick 2 weeks in the role and using the Canucks internal scouting metrics. His first drafted forward and his first use of first Rounder on a D man failed. after that, what is a big issue at all with his drafting and his successes at the table will be the stuff of legend once Rutherford and Alvin put all the finishing touches. the metrics and scouting changed, the results were evident and had the first pick in the first draft severely injured the first pick from the second draft, then Brock would be a better player now. JB made errors, but his drafting was the best in the clubs history, full stop. The assets in place on most depleted NHL I could possibly recall, worse than Zona in many ways, when MGB and Torts left the place. With virtually no prospects, good picks and or assists on the NHL roster save Bo. Lack was the starter… So let’s look at the crater that was, realize that we had the worst possible outlook and then see that it was not all bad. he has had more success and or just as much in the playoffs than T.O, Edmonton and or Calgary will have at the end of this round by default and the team I think will win is using all his players to make it happen. JB needed a solid wing man, Green was it and then his first picked player fully self destructed and also got the team Covid… that hang over and the issue that JV was kept over Tiffoli for near money and then Hamonic for Tanev.. that extra 3 mil, that the Florida Assistant GM cap penalty. so many compounding errors, that was JB’s issue because he got sentimental about a player or a blind spot. but that doesn’t make his entire body of work a tire fire.