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Looks bad with hindsight.... 'Very dire' indeed. Is he a success now Guntrix? Do you want a mulligan on that one....
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I thought JB stated that OJ was on track and expected him to be fully ready for training camp. So are you saying he wont be ready for training camp, or are you saying he will need some reps in the AHL before making the jump to essentially complete the work he missed this season? Nothing to do with his physical recovery from the surgery. I want to clarify as I haven't heard of any issues with his recovery.
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Depth. Woo wont have any pressure on him to do anything more than play. Hughes will take the pressure and he is the one everyone will expect things from. OJ can play under the radar too, something I think would.be good for him Luckily Hughes has a much bigger personality than his frame and I think he will handle things fairly well.
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I was trying to be polite, but yes, I completely agree.
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5th, Predicting a.player will not be good in his first 30 games as a pro is dim. Most posters know that the odds are against a player turning into a NHLer. That said, it takes a few years to sort the good from the bad. Giving a guy 3-5 years to actually develop from a teenager into a man is reasonable. You want to rush around and say who is and isnt going to make it based on a 30 game rookie sample... I wouldn't think so. Cause it is the definition of short sighted.
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5th, You need to move on bro. Every response to any of my posts, you tall about Virtannen. It's getting a bit weird. We are talking about Lind. Dont make this about Virtannen. To your first though before turning this topic into one about another player. It is much harder to predict a negative outcome than a positive. It takes time to prove a negative. Did anyone not think EP40, Boeserand Gaudette are going to have long successful careers? No, because they had positive results right away. You dont keep looking for your keys after you found them, but you should keep looking for them until all options are exhausted until you break down and you tell your wife and she tells you they were your pocket the whole time. In other words, early negative signs can be reversed or not hold up over time. Lind can change and work on weaknesses to improve. You fix what isnt working, you dont fix what is working. That's my take.
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Kesler, Burrows, Hansen, Bo etc... there is a few just off our roster. Didnt have to look very far. 30 games dude and you are ready to predict his hockey career. No context, no reason, just some ridiculously basic thinking and a rush to to predict a player adjusting to a different league, coach, system and is a rookie! Go join the idiots club on the HF board if you are serious. Dude your troll is showing.
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What odds are against him that werent there when he was in Jr? What makes his last 30 games more important than his previous body of work? Nothing, to see it otherwise is foolish. The issue I have with premature prognosticators is that they take ridiculously small samples and cherry pick comparables. Skewing the datr to be what they want to see without context. Take Lind. Now he has struggled to adjust to Pro Hockey. So do most players. The list of players that have become top six players after struggling in their early years in the AHL is massive. To pick the outliers that exceeded that norm then base a prediction on that is utter nonsense. Its frustrating in two ways, it is baseless and very poor analysis for the sake of analysis and it is also predicting failure for a young player that has just started out. If a premature prognosticator wants to use stats, use them effectively. Remove bias and look beyond the end of your nose and dig into the numbers. Try to realize that predicting a negative outcome is much harder than you might think. It is far easier to prove a positive. Any prediction of a failing prospect needs to be tempered by time... 4-5 years post draft to truly make that stick. Predicting Linds outcome 30 games into his rookie AHL season is just stupid.
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Drop Goldy, keep Motte. Don't see why Motte wouldn't be good with Horvat. Jake and Zack can vie for the top six. I think Sutter should skate on the RW with Gaudette. That way the young center has a faceoff guy to use. Zack has to show that he can stick. Lots of guys do great for a game or a few. I think he is on a.mission though.
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That's right, Raycroft won the Calder and Mason. Both are not HOF guys. That's the last 2 in almost 20 years. Like I said, not a recent trend.
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I basically said the exact same thing... re read my post. He was a take away guy, able to anticipate a pass and intercept it. He played high in the d zone and was an outlet guy. He was never a 200 ft player. Most offensive guys in his era were not 200 ft players.
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I honestly cannot remember the last goalie to win the Calder.
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They have to make the race look closer than it is. Dahlin would be hands down the leader if it wasn't for EP40. EP40 is still far ahead of his peers, including Dahlin. They are both tops and this is similar to the Boeser vs Barzal situation from last year. An injury decided the outcome. Brock was the front runner based on goals. He was on pace for 40 and then he got hurt, Barzal would not have won otherwise. Scoring 40g as a rookie in the NHL is so rare these days that it would garuantee the Calder. Ep40 has some very note worthy early accomplishments and statistically is off the charts. Leading the league in Shooting Percentage. Dahlin plays defence which gives him an edge, but not as much as you might think. Center vs Defence is debatable. If EP40 was a winger, that would make the race more even.
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To be fair, the Oilers of the 80's were stacked. Gretz didnt have a struggling team to play with. They were dominant from the start. Different eras and different players. The skating style, fast yet looks slow, shifts on a dime, way to skinny. The shot and wind up are similar and the vision. Where they differ so far is in ability, Gretz was so ahead of his time, now the league is way more structured and thoughtful about defence. It would be fair to say that even Gretz wouldn't put up his numbers in today's league. Defence was something Gretz left to others, he was a one dimensional player and the best one dimensional player of all time. He didnt really back check, he didn't block shots etc. He did steal alot of pucks intercept passes. EP40 is Datsyuk like in his defensive tenacity. What he really has in common with all great players is confidence. He has incredible confidence for a man as young as he is. I hesitate to go beyond playing styles for a number of reasons. EP40 is his own player, his abilities are astounding and this team has never had a player of his talent. He will have a long career and when it is done, other players will be compared to him and how he played. His impact on this roster has only just started.
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He is 19 pts ahead of Dahlin and has played fewer games. He has had the biggest impact of any rookie this year on an NHL team. EP40 is our MVP atm and he is still racking up points. 40 goals is within reach this year and as good as Dahlin has been, he has not outperformed EP40. When you are producing points on a pace that's is ranked with the best players in League History, your likely to win a Calder.
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We can all have our opinions and that's fine. Hughes should supplant Pouliot on the roster and he will play with one RHD, so we have three choices. I disagree with your take and time will tell.
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So Zack is called up, any word on when we get a chance to see him take the ice.
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IMO unless the club goes after a FA or makes a significant trade, Hughes will be paired with Guddy. Hughes needs a stay at home guy 5 v 5 IMO. His speed, puck moving ability and ability to recover and get back when he gets caught make him a very good partner for Guddy. Guddy is the physical threat against any cheap stuff, he can clear the net and he is mobile. A Hughes Guddy pairing would be very similar to a Campbell Guddy pairing IMO. Tanev cannot protect Hughes, Hughes will get run as he will embarrass pro hockey vets left right and center. We have seen from a few incidents what EP40 has dealt with. No reason to see anything different with Hughes. Stecher and Hughes have the most similarities but also share the same weaknesses, plus Stecher makes Hutton and Edler better so they need him, Hughes doesn't. That leaves Guddy. He has strengths in areas Hughes lacks an Hughes has strengths where Guddy has weaknesses. Making the Guddy pairing into a strong pairing IMO is a great addition to the club. It would take pressure off of our Vets in Edler and Tanev. This may not last for very long, but it makes alot of sense, especially since Hughes will likely be on the team this season, they will pair him with a vet and Guddy is the most likely for a whole host of reasons.
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I dont think Guddy is as bad as you do. I liked the Edler Guddy pairing when it was used last year. IMO Guddy has been tasked with carrying whichever player on the left side is currently sucking. Last year he had Hutton alot, this year is Pouliot. IMO the problem isnt Guddy, it's the lack of current usable NHL depth on defence.
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Interesting take. I see the Guddy Pouliot pairing as being brought down by Pouliot. My take is that Guddy will be with Hughes for the first few seasons unless they add thru trade or FA. Guddy does best with a smaller mobile guy. Guddy can take care of the rough stuff and stay back while the other guy roams. Both Hutton and Pouliot have done well with Stecher. Guddy would do IMO but they both RHD. Pouluot, Hutton and Guddy all have struggled when paired together. Stecher has made everyone he plays with look better. Guddy offers something that both Hutton and Pouliot don't and the to be honest the rest of the roster lacks. Between Hutton and Pouliot, they both look good playing with Stecher, but struggle playing anywhere else on the roster. I would much rather see one of Pouliot or Hutton walk and Guddy stick around. Hughes will need protection and Guddy needs a puckmover.
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The whole teams scoring rate would increase. Having a defender that can actually transition the puck and contribute on offence has been a black hole on this team for 4 years. Hey seasons end we will have 1 guy that can do that. By next year 2 and the year after that 3.
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That's great. I hope Gaunce gets another look and plays with urgency. He has all the right tools, but the intensity he showed pushing Trymakin up the Grind doesn't show on the ice.
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Sure, but consistancy is important and needs to be factored. Hutton has had easier assignments as Edler and Tanev take the tougher ones. That's also telling. We need both, but Hutton has some more to prove before he can be considered better than Edler.
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I like Trymakin with Hughes. Guddy is the only real guy ATM and I don't want Hughes getting run. He is going to make some guys look silly and get retribution. Hutton and Stecher look good as pairing, Edler and Stecher look good as pairing, I also like Elder and Guddy. Hutton.and Guddy is a tire fire, Pouliot with anyone not named Tanev is a train wreck. We need depth and Edler is motivated to stay here. In a reduced role, say second pairing, he would be fantastic. Trymakin is the wild card and his situation needs be resolved soon.
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Sample size doesn't matter for the CDC and predicting bad outcomes for prospects.