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  1. OJ was a bad pick… it grates me to agree with Fred65. he hates almost all picks, but he was right about OJ. Sure as AHL Vets, Gaudette and OJ are now doing great in the AHL. big whoop. Serge plays RHD, McAvoy, Chyckrun and half a dozen other D men picked are not busts.
  2. Any player that can play RHD and fit into our future is worth a crack at. so Russians are back in Vancouver. It’s a good development that the Nucks aren’t ignoring the largest ice hockey market outside NA for scouting anymore. Quinn made great things happen with his Russian scouting. then it died with Burke.
  3. Very young draft pick. Was sick this summer. mono is not the same for each player. Injured and sick for his training, it’s not possible at his age, to overcome that lag after the season has started. there are too many things that have derailed this kid that are not on the ice in a very important part of his pre for the season. it can happen, I don’t know if it’s worth investing too much foresight into this season for this kid. Faber may have to look around for another under 19 to tweet about.
  4. Love that this thread is turned into who’s the best and worst GM. can’t help but think this would be worth a reboot after a trade is made….
  5. Dude, OJ busted out of this club. so many chances and the Covid did a number on him. Bad pick. The shear number of nhl D men in the first round of that draft making impacts, and OJ is in the AHL. JB made great picks… so many it’s eye popping. But OJ, Gaudette etc… aren’t the guys you think got away. They didn’t make it.
  6. Burke could not find a goalie… so he can’t be equal to Quinn.
  7. So is the lingering effects of Mono. what happened to the last prospect that got mono and we dealt away. McCann, a Center who can score. Losing a summer of training and also the youngest player in the draft… or close. we have time. this is a learning curve event and best to avoid early predictions with a outlier event such as mono in the mix,
  8. King, so many choices for worst GM ever.. I don’t even know if Gillis was the worst drafting and development GM.. it’s that bad. We had a GM trade away Cam Neely. This team had been to the SCF three times. Gillis was arrogant and failed to adjust his coach when needed. he had one formula… and it almost won it all. But he borrowed or adapted another’s formula and he spent way too many futures on winning it all. But he almost pulled it off. I still think, had Danny clocked the Rat and or let go of his inner Viking, this team would have won the cup in the one play. That push back against a bully is what failed our team. Injury’s made it up to the stars to fight too. Gillis overplayed and so did JB. they both failed to remove coaches who did not meet the goals of the club. Gillis was especially late in moving out players after the team didn’t make it and AV also failed to clinch the deal. so why did take the owner firing both to start real changes? Love the young core. Think that the historical issue of effect RHD d men needs to be fixed. that is it. draft at least one player capable of playing RHD each draft in the first 4 rounds. One Center each draft in the first 4 rounds. One goalie each draft that is a target of our goalie guru. For five years. easy. not rocket science and you take care of this by making it happen and without fail. can’t get centers and RHD into the system if you never draft them. Simple.
  9. Rutherford and Alvin deal Myers.. and keep Schenn. We get some useful cap dump player back and maybe a mid round pick upgrade or swap… That’s why Rutherford Mall plans a parade… cause.. lol..
  10. Making cap space for Miller.. trade Miller for Miller. Miller waives easily for NYR. he goes home… we resign Bo and bring in a heavy large framed RHD with youth… and a 1st round pick… then Rutherford Mall in Nanaimo if it still exists plans a parade cause…
  11. I am a half Irish, half Ukrainian Rugby Front Rower, not any good at hockey… not even sure I am 5’10 but I try,.. 210 lbs playing weight… but 6’3, I think I hear your skates before I felt the impact of being checked into the boards… I got to knaw you legs off a bit to bring you down to eye level…
  12. Where the media cluster together and light rumours ablaze to stay warm in the glow of embers and comment on the smoke of the fires they made… it’s not news… it’s spam… delicious spam roasted on the embers of rumours… yum.
  13. To add. Gino was loved, but it’s not all sunshine and rainbows here for any folks on the other side of money, power and politics… Gino went thru hell in Quebec, and BC has plenty of rinks that are away from the Lower Mainland that would have been no different in the day Gino Played.. Hate racism… bet a lot of players affected by it in real time want to focus on the ice, and only that.. it’s a real issue.
  14. Bear can play defence, skates well, and can shoot the puck. He looks like he’s in shape, so those rumours look groundless, and he may have just ended up in a deep team with Carolina, and his success with Vancouver would be a welcome bit of sunshine. if it rubs salt into the wounds of bigots in other fan bases.. even better… but that is likely irrelevant to Bear, I bet he just wants to play and win… like everyone else in the NHL, except for Player Named Later… Loui E…
  15. Thumbs up from this Dyslexic that got mocked on this forum for misspelling Adam Boqvist’s name… for real, in the pre draft thread… ha.. love this and love irony…
  16. Defence is a team game. Demko has not been himself. The Forwards aren’t getting back. putting Bo and Petey out on a PK… so which All Star forward is getting down infront of a shot from Makar or Toews? puting Bo out or Petey with a forward that has to keep his ass in the NHL, that will be the honey badger and Hansen the shit out of it, or Alex Burrows 2.0, that is a bit more logical. don’t know of this was a face off issue, but goals against on the PK is killing this team. We need to stop those pucks, and it’s been Swiss chees. Not a PK expert, but Demko’s play has been an issue as he is our best PKer by a mile. Martin is standing up taking the team on his shoulders for now. His play has gotten stronger, Bear has settled into a decent looking role with OEL and Schenn has been awesome. Hughes is our best player, but looks a tad off his speed. Still amazing, but maybe his lingering injury is an issue. as for the Ava win.. Dries had a good game. But man that’s a lot of winger for a AHL bottom six go between player to have. Garland got robbed, the Nucks came to play and that one goal off the skate, if that was Markus Naslund or Danny Sedin… it’s called back… lol. but Demko is not top atm, Hughes is not 100% and Schenn is at 150% and this team has a underdog complex…. I hope Bruce has the locker room. He should they let him down and he deserves better. Bear could be the guy to balance out our second pair with OEL. Myers can eat minutes, so he is effective, price tag aside, and he should be able to play with anyone 5 vs 5 on any pairing… he has been here long enough. I really liked Brisbios when he was up with the team. Was very effective and his play was a stand out for an ahl call up. at least they can score…
  17. It’s the D. Scoring your way out of trouble doesn’t work if your D doesn’t stand up. pun. but it’s not a quick fix, take a magic pill and your D will be rock hard for hours longer than needed problem. It requires surgery to fix this D. IE, Draft, College Scouting, FA or Trade. this when every Boomer GM is looking to get harder D all the time. So getting the right deal is complicated and this start has been a disaster so the need to fix the problem for this year is less and less important. each loss is a chance at a top pick. No team in league history has tanked harder more strategically more times than the Pittsburgh Pens. No team failed harder at tanking than the Edmonton Oilers, until McJesus. Rutherford and Alvin can just let this go and deal away players and build anew around Hughes and Petey. Or just stealth tank, trade Bo before a fantastic draft year and get a fantastic D Prospect and a fill in Center cap return, that is not a carry forward contract. like a blue chip, cannot miss RHD prospect. plus the Nucks are tanking hard. Demko is not having a good year and the forwards are not getting back. Bruce is the new Roger Neilson and this club is getting some rebalancing. no a re tooling, not a re build, a re balancing, the giant gaping hole on defence on the right side is not okay, it never was okay and has not been fixed since KB3 left. Tanev leaving was a tragic miscue. the last two homegrown players at that position to make the NHL. Tanev was a rookie in the 2012 run.. not okay. so spend some assets to fix the hole in the bucket, so carrying water in it makes sense. or we are wasting our time. if that takes Bo, then so be it.
  18. I was there in 1994 and it was mostly alcohol and anger towards the result of the series. And the party was just a bit out of control. was not 2012.
  19. Dyslexic and it hits sometimes. gotta just accept that some people talk differently
  20. I thought the ‘Bruce there it is’ was basically what Montreal Fans did to Roy when he played his last game and the fans cheered in mockery to him making a save. thats how the eastern media framed it. It looked pretty bad on TV. his GM is running him down in public, the team interviewed Tochet and his players, especially Demko and Brock have been terrible on the first 12 games. Myers was injured for the first 6 and Hughes played injured for the first 6 or more. who knows what was going on with Demko, all I can say, I know he will find his game. just a bump, not a gully. It looked like mockery. After a 4 game winning streak, even 5 game streak… knock on wood. it would look genuine. so unless the team goes for a streak, right now, Bruce is done and that will not age well.
  21. This team does have a gap in defence. we have a gap at coach as well. scotty walker. there is a reversal of coaching last season that had an impact. Green was preaching defence, cause he knew his new defence group had 4 new players and each pair was new with Hughes and Schenn returning that made it not a near total defence turn over. Myers and OEL had a great back 3/4 of the year. had Bo not gotten injured, I think this team makes last years playoffs, But now we can keep a lead or defend a zone. Bruce is a freewheeling coach. Old school. He went to far to the wold side and his players did let him down. that and Demko just was terrible for a bit. it can happen. If the Captain is being dealt and the coach is being replaced, it better right the godammed ship. I also am ashamed of the entitled assholes mocking one of the most loved personalities in the game that grew into an NHL coach the hard way, You can afford a ticket to a game. Feel lucky to be there, some of us are on the very bottom and it’s a luxury and entertainment. the number of instances Vancouver Fans have earned their bad rap, from the Old Canada Cup game that Canada lost in Vancouver, to the riots. like riots. cup winning teams riot, cup losing teams go home quietly. Because silence is the sound of losing,
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