TrevorLinden4ever

It possibly looks like we can get excitied about JOrdan Schrader, because he was showing a few chances last year. If he can improve playin down on teh farm team, we can call him up for a couple games and we will make teh playoffs and he can go play in Utica

Wouldnt wanna trade Kesler, but he might have to be included in a package with the deadbeats to rehaul this team...

Probably because he took a time machine into the future to read all this BS?

I guess if you are a slob in Switzerland, you're also one in Boston? http://www.thelocal.ch/20130108/nhl-star-playing-in-switzerland-branded-a-slob “The parquet floor was littered with coins worth 220 francs,” Blick reported. Coca-cola bottles, garbage and dirty linen lay scattered across the floor, while rotten bananas were left on a table, the newspaper said. The bathroom was a shambles and the cleaning company spent a full day tidying the apartment. In December, when Seguin returned to America, the staff were met with a similar stiff challenge. Blick said the hockey player was “not versed in appliances” and as a result tried to wash his clothes in the dryer. “He also did not know how to operate the dishwasher . . . when he ran out of clean plates, glasses and cutlery, he bought plastic tableware.” Marc Lüpold, the managing director of the cleaning company, was diplomatic about the revelations. “You could tell it was the first time a young, single man had an apartment,” Lüpold told Blick.

Im not going to fart all over this hiring as I hope Benning does this team well. But on the Seguin deal: http://hockeyjournal.com/news/bruins/The_life_of_Reilly-_Smith_steps_up_for_Bruins “We didn’t know we were going to move Tyler until after the season. (GM) Pete (Chiarelli) was doing all his work behind the scenes and with the cap and everything. You have to be ready as scouts when your GM comes to you to ask questions about other teams’ players, and what our likes and dislikes are. That was the case with Dallas. You’ve got to be ready for every team. We have a book on every team. Between (assistant GM) Jim Benning, Donny, Pete and myself, we go over certain scenarios. We have an A plan, a B plan, and I think Pete was on top of it all along. You have to give a lot of credit to him.” Bradley and crew were very keen on making sure Smith was part of the package that headed Boston’s way in the swap. “It was a major desire that he was one of the pieces of the puzzle,” said Bradley, who’s been part of Boston’s staff for over two decades. “You don’t give a player away of Tyler’s stature, caliber and potential without getting potential back. We saw the potential in Reilly as a group. Adam Creighton, Donny Sweeney, Jim Benning. We work pretty closely on that front. Pete takes everybody’s information and makes that decision.” http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/bruins/post/_/id/13602/behind-the-b-seguin-had-to-go It also was obvious during the episode that the Bruins hockey operations staff believed there were “too many red flags” concerning forward Tyler Seguin and all agreed it was time to trade him. At one point, assistant GM Jim Benning said, “We’re not babysitters.” He then added if Seguin gave the Bruins half of what the Blackhawks’ Patrick Kane gave Chicago, Boston would have won the Stanley Cup. In the meantime, according to Mike Smith, fans dont look at the wrong stats necessarily and chances are there is no "...but...." to be added with any fancy analytics sideswing, seeing its rather obvious when you measure up Seguins performance last year to Patrick Kane http://www.nhl.com/ice/playerstats.htm?season=20132014&gameType=2&team=&position=S&country=&status=&viewName=summary

http://www.theprovince.com/sports/hockey/canucks-hockey/Botchford+know+Canucks/9860757/story.html First analysis from Botch man has him inviting the masses to criticize the Seguin deal. Second has him applauding his drafting record. Add both points to the stew and we should adopt the notion that in the event he drafts a stud then trades him, it will be great because it defines the undertaking of a bold move. You don't need to beat a lesser team like Montreal. Meanwhile, Kane and the Blackhawks have won two Cups since 2010. But perhaps winning only one is good enough - screw momentum. And if the Blackhawks win it again this year even if Kane takes a sidetrip to the Roxy...?

I guess the Stanley Cup champs Blackhawks should trade Kane, meanwhile the Bruins haven't won it since trading Seguin. Hahahaha. BTW if you think Kane is more "becoming" vis a vis partying ethics, you're naive. I've heard some vividly explicitive details on Kanes partying conduct. Think "which 'explicitive' wants to 'explicitive' my 'explicitive'" while pointing at his "explicitive" hanging out in plain view.

I would've prefered the MG Tortorella route regardless of what the popularity meter says

Are you outta yer mind? That was Thornton 2.0!

How much of a hand did he play in making that fabulous Seguin trade to Dallas? HAHAHAHAHAHA. Until he proves me otherwise - not a fan of chief Lindens hire. The more I think about it, the more I wish Gillis had the balls to hasten that ol' frickin reset to save his arse.

I dont believe this is accurate and would want to have the source. Torts had too much respect for Burrows. Does it matter anyway? I think the source is either Gillis throwing Torts under the bus or someone in the organization.

Lets skip aside Linden for a minute and just focus on the Tortorella firing alone... There's a couple things outta place with this firing. First, his hiring was made into a huge deal where the media had a frenzy. The amount of time and resources this organization put into the week Torts was hired was big. They had hours and hours of pressers and interviews, not to mention the Gillis Torts duo that took fan questions at BC Place. In fact MG pointed at Torts and said himself "this is the reset". Second, they made a huge investment. Thats 4 years and 8 million. Not chump change. Who's gonna pay for that, the ticketholder? This tells the fan that this organization lacks in making decisions with a long term vision. It also seems like Torts was used more by the media way beyond what is customarily accepted. They spent so much time trying to get him to reassure them of his "PR remake" than imaginable. And for what? To have continuous speculation on your future and piles of criticism with regard to how they think he should coach. I think at this point they should have kept Gillis for the remainder of his contract and Torts for that matter, and slashed the payroll. This team doesn't seem to have a long term vision. They make dumb mistakes with regard to inflated LTC's, NTC's, and buyouts, with players, coaches and managers. This whole Tortorella signing then disposal is all at the benefit of the media and not the fans. it almost seems like the media craves such instability but if this organization hasnt realized how expensive that is, then they should real fast. When is this team going to wake up and get organized?

Absolutely correct. Torts is The Man. He was a great coach for this team this season. All ther stinkers on this board who slight Torts dont know what it takes to put it all together and make it happen. It was a process and now Linden will have to bare some hard realities about the difficult situation this teams ion moving forward.

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This whole "getting ride of Torts" thing is the media's way of doing things, in which if they had the satisfaction of seeing it happen, would be quite a waste for the canucks financially. JT has 4 years left on a huge contract, which would be a huge expense to buy out. WHy should the ticketholder bare the brunt of the liberal hasty vision this media has of doing things? SHould we pay more just to see this team screw itself? Haste makes waste.

It seems the negatives outweigh the positives. He wasnt forced to trade Hodgeson, he just traded him and got fleeced as usual.

The Penguins trade offer of Brandon SUtter and other throw ins stink. If they have to trade Kesler, which is a bad move, then swing one with Philly and land Wayne SImmonds on some package. What we need are players that can contributed offensively right now, not later on. Simmonds is on pace for 40

One of the biggest weaknesses of the Canucks, if not the biggest, is the lack of drafting over the past two decades. Nothing, really, has changed on that front. On points 2 and 4, lets recall how Pat Quinn gutted the 1994 roster by taking out a lot of those awesome hard working blue collar guys that made the team what it was. We all know where it went from there. Then we had that really intelligent Messier signing which nailed it.

Yeah but we have to talk about Torts going loco because he though Hartless was trying to endanger the first line. Give me a break. It all goes back to the same thing: the twins are brittle. Just put them out there next time. Tough guys are smarter than their coaches sometimes...

Two scenarios here: Hartless ordered a can of whoop ass for the Nucks top line, or Hartless intimidated Torts not to put the brittle twins out there, and ordered a whoopass for any other line. I think the Sedins reputation is totally known though so I'd hope scenario 1 wouldnt happen. I would have loved it if Torts had called Hartleys bluff though, that is if he was bluffing... What really tires me though is that we're forced into another discussion about their lack of physical prowess again. Nope, if players are injured, sit em out and call up the kids from Utica.

Am I the only who thinks the Sedins should not be encouraged to feel like cowards against a fourth line? Just put them out there, and play the game. IMO the real crime here was not his tresspassing antics but his lack of respect for fourth line guys, or his lack of confidence in his top line either way.

I'd actually suggest that we have some good folks working the media here who give it their best. Ian MacIntyre and Donny Taylor come to mind...I seriously think Torts will do just fine. Maybe a few moments but hey, dont we all have them??

We have a bigger problem though and that will be the fallout from an increasing difficulty in trading Luongo while Schneider takes a growing percentage of games. How can any coach provide polite interlocutors to a feasting media that would naturally prey on proliferating a controversy and expect the problem not to affect the team? Maybe a yelling match with Ian MacIntyre is the perfect antidote, who knows??

http://www.tortorellafoundation.org/ Apologies if this link was already posted.