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Kuzma's a tit

Why not? he's ranked 6th in some part of the world

We have some big guys too. Jensen, Kasian, Gaunce, Mathias. If the Canucks added Virt that could be a good start Sedin Sedin Jensen Shink Horvat Virtanen Kassian Gaunce Burr Rich Mathias Fox

Buffalo have many young D men. They need a centre

Burke traded a 3rd round pick and Mcabe I believe ... maybe a 2nd as well but no 1st rounders

Yeah I've heard several times that the top of this draft doesn't have a single bonified 1st line forward. There's several good second liners but that's about it. I can't see Reinhart being worth Shink + #6 + roster player, especially when he doesn't project as a #1 NHL centre. Classic case of a too much focus on one player that people start to become fixated to the point they can't see what else is around them.Its a social phenomenon sort like a self fulfilling prophecy

If Reinhart are such great prospects, why is Tallon looking to move back as far as pick #8?? probably because he knows there is more value if you don't have the first pick this. Tallon knows how to evaluate talent. He drafted Kane and Toews and many other current Blackhawks.

I actually believe RNH will end up being a better player than Reinhart. Once he fills out he can be a top centre in the NHL.

Jaysus... This team finally starts to stock up on prospects and now are ready to trade them before they play even a single game. Two very promising young prospects ( Shink and #6oa ) for one very promising young prospect. Why does this franchise continue go backwards year after year after year after year. Stop trading the young talent away and put in the time and effort into developing these kids. This team just doesn't get it. No matter who we bring in to run the organization, there just isn't any continuity from top to bottom. Get on the same effin page TL and JB... for Pete's sake

It would be a good trade for the Canucks though, don't you agree?

I did write CAN"T MISS HOF prospect so as to not confuse the difference of a player who may reach full potential and a can't miss HOF prospect. I thought it was pretty clear from the way I posted it, I guess I was wrong

If there was a Lemieux, Lefleur or a Crosby in this draft, then trading Horvat + #6 would be a good gamble. However there is no real potential can't miss HOF player so staying put is just as good an option

The flaw with a chart like that is the generational players who go #1 skew the entire production distribution. The Lemieux's, Crosby's and Lefleur's of the draft cause the #'s to reflect top heavy production. If they took all the drafts that had no generational players or consensus #1 player it might not reveal the same results

Tanev and the #6 pick isn't worth nothing though. I can't see the logic in trading Tanev, he's Vans best young d-man by a fair margin. If we had the 12-15th pick and wanted to move up then I could see making a trade involving Tanev. The thing is, the #6 pick offers an opportunity to get a very good young player. Trading two good young players for one good young player is not smart business

If Tallon was offered Horvat and #6 oa, He would jump all over that. Kuzma has no clue what he's talking about. If Bennet, Dal Colle or Draisatl fall in the draft...which a lot of pundits believe could very easily happen, then he would be turning down possibly; Horvat, Draisatl Horvat, Dal Colle Horvat, Bennet ... any one of those combo's is better than just Reinhart and both Murray and Tallon know it

No but I could smell it from Niagra Falls. I got half way across that bridge and couldn't stand it and had to turn around. The never tell you about that in summer school

What do you mean Tallon and Murray aren't dummies? The Panthers have picked in the top 5 something like ten times and they still suck!!! I can't imagine what Van would do with 5 first overall picks in this day and age. Buffalo has been a lot better than Fla but they are hurtin right now. They may squander their talent just like the Panthers. The Canucks would actually be doing those two teams a favor by getting their picks from them

Depends on what you call a franchise centre. Neither LA or NY have a true franchise centre depth on all four lines is what it takes to win in todays NHL. Teams can shut down franchise centres in the playoffs so having four very good centres is better than one franchise centre

That could end up as Tanev, Dal Colle, and Hansen for Reinhart. Not sure we wouldn't be better off with Tanev and Dal Colle in our line up. Or possibly replace Dal Colle with Draisatl if he' falls to #6 our 1-2 center spots would be Draisatl Horvat and the Canucks still have Tanev in their top 4

Yup. Its isn't often a D-man goes #1 simply because the development time required for a defenseman is way more unpredictable. Forwards tend to offer a faster return and shorter ascent to their peak. D men tend to take longer to "put it all together"

I was blown away that Murray or Shero didn't sell the farm to get Kes. The core on both those teams are set up to win now. You have to strike while the iron is hot. I think both those GM's are going to end up regretting not going for it at the trade deadline

I completely get the idea of having to overpay for the #1 pick, I just think its a terrible idea. Judging by some of the proposals out there, I believe many are discrediting the #6 pick. I rather the Canucks keep the pick and develop their young players instead of trading them away

I think it was meant as a base of reference. When you're looking to buy a house its very common for the agent to find out what houses recently sold for in that neighborhood. Usually they refer to the most recent house sales for a way to gauge what is a reasonable price. Same thing can apply to Draft trades. Van gave up Scneides for pick #9 at last years draft so that can sort of be a baseline for this year. A very good goalie returned the #9 pick and most thought the Canucks should have got more. So Tanev and the #6 I feel is a very fair return for the #1 or #2 pick in this draft. We should remember that the talent of this draft is considered good but not great like last year. There is no Mackinnon, Jones or Drouin at the top.

If the Canucks Offered Tanev and #6 oa pick, I think Tallon would give it serious consideration. You have to account for who's available at #6. If Dal Colle, Draisatl, or Nylander are available then I think Fla would have to take an offer like that. Tanev hasn't turned 25 yet, he's just beginning to scratch the surface of what he could become as a player. If Van trades away Kesler and then offers up the return for Kesler to Fla + the #6 and Tanev...that would be a poor decision. Giving way too much for the #1 pick

Duncan Keith can be a mean and physical player when he desires. Its just that he is so good he rarely needs to. Tanev is on par with with Keith in terms of hockey sense but he has no mean streak in him. His mindset is perfect for a PMD and he will be a very good player for the Canucks with a very high ceiling. The best thing would be to pair Tanev with a d partner who is a big nasty, clear the front of the net type d-man who can do all the heavy lifting. If Benning can find that d-man to pair with Tanev then I could see a very good career in the NHL for Tanev