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  1. In a salary cap world, the Twins need to be realistic about their value . In a non cap world we honour them with virtually whatever they wish to mentor the youngsters. I project them as 80 point guys this year, and then 70 point guys next year and even 65 point guys after that. and then 60. How much do you pay for aging 70 , 65 and 60 -65 point guys who need all the juicy powerplay time to even get that? I give them 5mil each but will go three years and front load it so they can take off after two. We can eat a little cap hit so they can retire a year early.
  2. Your post makes little sense. The only thing about it that resembles other posts on CDC is the draconian use of hyperbole to justify the ridiculous. You are making up rules to fit whatever end game you wish to project. We made this mistake with Naslund and look at what a clown he turned out to be at the end of his career. The guy was a total embarrassment and left town with his tail between his legs. Shame really he ended up such a third rate guy. I think Gillis felt bad and retired his jersey. Certainly most fans feel there must have been some kind of back door deal to retire a guy like Naslunds number Back to the Sedins, they are actually real men. They arent wimps like Naslund and there is no reason why they cannot leave town with their heads held high . They also won scoring titles. They didnt choke them away at the last moment. I dont think they would ask for numbers suggest. I also dont think Gillis is going to give them 'guilt pay' based on what they did back in their prime. As mentioned before, he just had to go through the end result with Mr 'we choked' . On that note, I cant wait until Pavel Bure's number is retired. Two 60 goal seasons, 110 points, stanley cup finals, calder trophy, Hockey hall of fame. Now there is a guy who deserves it. So will the twins.
  3. You arent being fair. Try comparing guys their age. Not Parise and Suter. when using comparative analogy, we must resist the temptation to create a 'straw man' or false narrative as a sales pitch. For example: Sedins are the lifeblood of the Canucks. If you were drowning and someone threw you a life raft , would you take it? Of course you would! Ergo. Re sign the sedins for 8 mil each. Would you rather drown if they walked out? This is a fairly common way of making a false narrative to justify whatever our personal beliefs are. However, we are Canuck fans first and must always be loyal to the franchise. We can do our best to bend for the twins , but giving them big contracts starting at age 34 is a non starter as far as I am concerned. I can already tell they are no longer 'elite' scoring title players anymore. They are 80 points guys and then next year 70 point guys and so forth. Fair market value for aging guys like this are 5mil bucks for 70 point guys. If they are still producing at 80 points at age 36 somehow , then I am sure gillis can make it up the next year. I go with 2 year deals 5 mil each . I am not interested in what they did 5 years ago . We have to look at what they provide today. If they want another huge payday (and I wouldnt blame them if they did) they can go to Carolina or wherever. We wil be more than happy to have all this worked out before the deadline so we can trade them for a little bit of value or nothing if they walk out. What we cant do is offer them 6 or 7 million dollar deals for 4 or 5 years so they can fade into injury and slumps and we stuck with their salary cap hits.
  4. Good assessments Mike. I cant compare a Hodgson to a 33 year old Sedins. I compare them to Thorton and Marleau . I think both would be worth 5 mil starting next year. Right now Jumbo Joe is still worth 6.5 mil but I think its a mistake to keep overpaying out of respect. No player -outside of Trevor Linden- has earned the right to be overpaid as much as the twins have. However, in a salary cap world we just cant afford it, especially if we have to allocate those first line minutes elsewhere . I would love to have the twins as role model second liners eventually.
  5. Good call Shaky. It looks live Ivan the terrible (sans fu manchu)
  6. First thing to go with the player is the hands, then the speed . Sedins are finesse / high co ordination . Once the passes start going tape to skate, and shots shanked off the heel, the gig is up for them. They dont fight or hit or skate fast. I would re sign them but lets NOT give them the 6mil dollar Naslund mistake we gave him before we found out too late. Pay the twins 5 mil each for 2 years then re assess.
  7. There you have it folks. Rod Laver is the only man in mens tennis history to win 2 of each of the grand slams. Borg never won the US open. Sampras never won the french open. Becker neither. Agassi won all four.....with one win in Paris and Wimbledon. Djokovic has won 3 of the 4. No French. Federer has won a whopping 17 titles, but only 1 French. Nadal now holds 13 titles , 2 Wimbledons, 2 US opens and a whopping 8 French open titles and an Australian. If he can win one more Auzzie , he will be the only guy to win 2 in the open era. Even Laver won one of his slams as an Amateur. Rafa is 5 years younger than Federer and only needs 4 slams to catch him. I think he can do it.
  8. Gaunce played well today. Lets hope he can use it as a spring board to the main camp.
  9. When is the last time the finals of a Grand Slam was the #1 seed vs the #2 seed for BOTH the women and men?
  10. See through boards? cool . Hint please Shaky
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