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Mother of God this thread is older then my nephew.

Problem with this idea, IMO, is that Sedins with Burrows is still a 1st line with little physical presence, and the entire league knows it. And unfortunately for us, the three of them lack the ability to adapt or change their game enough, meaning they WILL get shutdown. In other words, a Sedin-Sedin-Burrows line's limits and disadvantages are way too predictable for other teams. As for actually keeping Burrows, i'm all for it unless another team offers considerable value which is doubtful. Even if his talents have diminished with age, he's still one of the hardest and most dedicated players on our team and his loyalty to the Canucks is probably only second to Bieksa. At the very least, he'll play a good role model for the kids.

Lack and Markstrom will be solid goalies but from what I saw this season I don't believe they could carry the team to a cup. There is of course room to develop, but unless Lack suddenly has an explosion of improvement (very possible), then this goalie tandem isn't as impressive as i'd want it to be.

From the looks of things, Bieksa and the Sedins are so far the only players we have who've expressed the desire to stay in Van regardless of our status as contenders... maybe Burrows. Wouldn't be surprised if Hansen waives to go to a contending team if any go after him. Gotta say no to Iggy though, he's not what we're looking for.

As long as we didn't pick Ritchie I'm fine with either Virtanen, Nylander, or Ehlers. At this point in time you can't really go wrong with any of the 3. Virtanen having a shoulder injury does NOT make him injury prone, nor does anyone know for certain he's a bust. We need more players with a shoot first mentality because, clearly, our 1st line is sorely lacking in shooters. Sedin-Sedin-Burrows = playmaker-playmaker-grinder? We don't need that.

All managements are always calling player's agents. A phone call doesn't mean Miller's getting signed. And lol at the people saying Miller sucks. St. Louis' defense got owned by Chicago. It was the entire team's fault they lost not just Miller.

This trade would basically sacrifice depth for 1 single talented player. Whether its Ekblad or Reinhart the pressure on them would be massive. 6th + Tanev(?) + Shinkaruk would mean the 1st overall we'd draft would have to become at least as good as Stamkos/Tavares/Toews. Does anyone in this years draft even have that ceiling?

Skill, speed, size, talent. Not one of them matters on the ice if you can't stay healthy enough to be on the ice.

He was given multiple chances. He failed to live up to expectations ever since we signed him. Might do better on other teams, maybe over east where the game is a little different but he really has no place left here when some of our prospects might be ready to play for us next season.

The Sedins will get better than this season but I doubt they'll be as good before that. I strongly believe the coach's play style affects how well the Sedins play. While Tort's defense system showed everyone having a drop in production, the Sedin's performances were relatively MUCH worse. I mean how did Daniel Sedin go from one of, if not THE best left wing and scorer on our team to a player who drops to 16 goals in a season?. Did it have something to do with his concussion? Maybe. Regardless, we're stuck with 2 players that will decline and retire at roughly the same time. It also seems like it wouldn't be possible to trade 1 and keep another since the Sedin brothers probably want to stay together. Unless our prospects are 1st line-worthy in the next 1-3 seasons and the Sedins can drop to 2nd line, that $14 million might seriously hinder with building a cup contending team.

I don't really know how to reply to the posters defending Garrison. Just because hes "not bad" at hitting the net does NOT mean hes good at it. Frankly I was under the impression that he was brought into the team for that very purpose whereas Hamhuis, Bieksa, and Edler were meant for different purposes. Regardless his ability to hit the net isn't good enough.

I think Edler's performance next season will depend on who would be our next coach. Don't really care for Garrison... every time I watch him play he's missing the net more often than not. IMO he's bordering on "overpaid" status. Then again most of the team under performed.

While he wouldn't be MY first choice for the draft he does look really good on the ice. Still though he seems injury prone. Doesn't matter how big or fast or talented on the ice you are. If he can't stay healthy enough to play the game then it would be a waste of a draft pick. Its a pretty big risk IMO considering how physical the west is.

So has Benning really been chosen as the new GM? Otherwise the title is pretty damn misleading.

Adapting to the environment is all it is really. I stand with the opinion that Marchand is the better forward.

I'm tempted to bookmark this thread in case Burrows plays just as badly for the next 1 or 2 seasons. Granted at the moment buying him out would be a bad move but i'm up for trading/ buying out Burrows if it somehow makes the team better. And as much as I hate to say this... REALLY hate to say this... but IMO Marchand > Burrows. Better rat, better at getting under people's skin (players and fans alike), and better overall forward. Love to have him on this team.

We now have a president who was most likely hired due to his playing career. No GM. No Coach. If we're having a complete overhaul of management this could mean VERY good or VERY bad... and i'm leaning towards the latter.

Taylor Hall. Unfortunately he's stuck playing with that team. On paper our team isn't much different from the Kings. The reason they won the cup was because of Quick who obviously carried them.

Toronto still has a better chance at making the playoffs than us. No this doesn't really take the spotlight away. The sudden drop in performance starting in 2014 caught everyone by surprise considering how good we were in December.

The fact that Hodgeson is now the 1st line center for Buffalo is enough to say how weak their roster is. Its not that he couldn't help Buffalo into the playoffs, its because the whole team wasn't playing good enough. No one I know ever said Hodgeson would carry us to the cup, but all things considering I would personally say that Hodgeson would have contributed more to winning in the playoffs than Kassian could at the time. Yes Kassian is physical but at the time he was nowhere near as developed as Hodgeson was.

Schneider - 1st = Horvat. Schneider was worth WAY more than just a 1st. Whats done is done but if Gillis handled the situation better I think he easily could have gotten more than just a 1st round pick. Also I think a lot of the flack Gillis is getting is because he couldn't or wouldn't get some of the pieces we needed. We STILL don't have a top 6 winger for Kesler and now its looking more likely that we simply might wait to develop that winger instead of acquiring one. Jensen is likely to play wing with Kesler when Danky comes back. A lot of the fans have also been craving for a puck-moving D which we haven't had since Ehrhoff.

Agree about Sundin, Strum, and Bernier I personally didn't think Ballard would be so bad. Still think AV didn't know how to use him to his potential. Mitchell suffered from a dangerous concussion. It made sense that Gillis didn't think he'd be as good as he was before the injury, not to mention that it was possibly career ending. Didn't turn out that way but I can understand why Gillis let him walk. Torres did his job right and protected the team. However his actions were questionable on ice and he creating a bad rep for the team. I would have kept him if it were up to me but just like Mitchell, letting him walk made sense. Ehrhoff was simply too expensive for what he was worth (even though i liked him). Great puck-moving, shooter... but also had a bad turnover %. Of course in hindsight it would have been a great idea to keep him but we didn't know that at the time. Salo was an aging glass cannon. Still good but we really don't need him. I don't think any of these warrant Gillis getting fired.

I'm not a fan of Gillis either but from the top of my head the only trades he made that really had me going "WTF!?!" were the Kassian/Hodgeson and Schneider trades. While i'm a huge Luongo fan, the trade made sense for both sides and Matthias has been a pleasant surprise since he started playing for us. As for acquiring Booth... well how many people actually knew he would turn out the way he did? And I agree that the prospect pool is kind of weak, but it has IMO been steadily improving over the last few seasons. Give it a few more years. I think Gillis should get one more season to fix the holes on the team. Only one more.

Impossible? No. Improbable? Yes. There's a fine line between hoping and being stupid. Then again sometimes you got to be stupid for good things to happen. Some people would rather we tank to get a "better" draft pick. Others believe we should spend the last few games developing our younger players (kind of whats happening since we already stuck Jensen on the first line). And then some people have a firm belief that we can make a comeback. Point is that any argument for whats left of the season is reasonably justified.

Burrows scored = win for us regardless of scoreboard