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If kuzmenko is the real deal -- look at moving Pearson, Garland out of the top 9 as a trade for a D With Hoglander and Lekkermaki able to jump in, possibly Klimovich/ Karlsson

Not to make this a race thing Totally agree he'd be an amazing broadcaster But imagine if he opened up a hockey academy for African American/ Canadian Kids- he'd be a legacy

Where do you folks feel we land in terms of centre depth. As Hughes mentioned if Lazar/ Dickinson can help Bo out in the defensive zone it will allow Horvat to become a more offensive beast then he has been for us. I do feel we have a top 9 that is amazing combined with 3 centres who have the ability to net 30 goals each, in Petey's case- hes capable of 100 pts, Miller can net 80, Horvat can net 60 pts. We have one of the best top 9's with a Defence that ranked top 5 in even strength goals, and top 10 in Goals against . We have a top 10 if not top 5 goalie, and hopefully a solid back up in Martin who can play 20-25 games

Article is written by Daily Hive's Trevor Beggs https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/where-canucks-centre-depth-ranks-in-nhl With a google document with a spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oc-N_7QLKS2YAQg6LY0pUf1xVotHc52Arm-fy5FyqhY/edit#gid=0 ---- Article is copy pasted below : The Stanley Cup isn’t awarded based on centre depth. That’s too bad because if it were, the Vancouver Canucks would immediately be top contenders. Despite flaws with the current roster, the Canucks have collected one of the most dangerous sets of centres in the NHL. So, where do the Canucks centres actually rank among the league’s best? This article takes a look at each team’s projected centre depth heading into the 2022-23 season, taking into account faceoff leaders from last season and actual line combinations. One of the key words there is “projected.” This isn’t just a ranking based on past performance, but a look at how each team’s centres could perform this season. Spoiler alert: that might give teams with promising, younger centres a bit of a bump. One of the stats you’ll see below is combined points-per-game. That helps put the rankings into perspective, but it’s not 100% of the rationale behind a team’s placement. You can check out the full rankings here, but below are 13 teams with the best centre depth heading into 2022-23. 13. New York Rangers Mika Zibanejad Vincent Trocheck Filip Chytil Barclay Goodrow Combined 2021-22 points-per-game: 0.6 After losing Ryan Strome in free agency, the New York Rangers did well by adding an equally as productive and better defensive centre in Vincent Trocheck. The Rangers have to hope that Filip Chytil’s playoff performance was a sign of things to come. He was much better in the postseason than he was in the regular season. 12. Minnesota Wild Ryan Hartman Joel Eriksson Ek Frederick Gaudreau Marco Rossi Combined 2021-22 points-per-game: 0.66 On paper, this group of centres looks weak. However, their top three pivots were stellar last season. Ryan Hartman, Joel Eriksson Ek, and Frederick Gaudreau all had career seasons in 2021-22. This group will also add rookie Marco Rossi, who has the highest ceiling of the bunch. 11. Carolina Hurricanes Sebastian Aho Jordan Staal Jesperi Kotkaniemi Jack Drury Combined 2021-22 points-per-game: 0.66 While Sebastian Aho is a top-line centre, there are question marks after him. Jordan Staal is still a strong middle-six centre, but he’ll be 34 when the season begins. The Carolina Hurricanes also need Jesperi Kotkaniemi to take a step forward. The wild card is Jack Drury, who was dominant in the AHL last season and scored twice in two NHL games. He has second-line potential out of the gate, which could push Carolina’s centre depth near the top of this list. 10. New Jersey Devils Jack Hughes Nico Hischier Erik Haula Michael McLeod Combined 2021-22 points-per-game: 0.66 If both Jack Hughes and Nico Hischier can stay healthy, the New Jersey Devils boast one of the best centre groups in the NHL. That’s aided by the offseason addition of Erik Haula. Michael McLeod, while he doesn’t put up points, is effective defensively, on the penalty kill and in the faceoff circle. 9. Florida Panthers Aleksander Barkov Sam Bennett Anton Lundell Eetu Luostarinen Combined 2021-22 points-per-game: 0.74 Sam Bennett has found new life in Florida, even if he wasn’t great in the postseason. Third-line centre Anton Lundell might prove to be better than Bennett as soon as this season. The 20-year-old had a stellar rookie campaign with 44 points in 65 games. 8. Colorado Avalanche Nathan Mackinnon/Mikko Rantanen Gabriel Landeskog/JT Compher Evan Rodrigues/Alex Newhook Darren Helm Combined 2021-22 points-per-game: 0.75 The centre depth for the Colorado Avalanche took a massive hit when they lost Nazem Kadri in free agency. However, all of Colorado’s three best forwards regularly took faceoffs last season. The big three in Colorado often play together, but that could change with the loss of Kadri. Colorado would rank #1 if they had their top three players on three lines, but what’s more likely is that one of them slides down to the second line. They’ve further boosted this group after the recent addition of Evan Rodrigues. 7. Calgary Flames Elias Lindholm Nazem Kadri Mikael Backlund Kevin Rooney Combined 2021-22 points-per-game: 0.76 The Calgary Flames are deeper at centre than they were last season. Elias Lindholm and Nazem Kadri were both first-line calibre players in 2021-22, while Mikael Backlund has been a legitimate number two option for years. 6. Pittsburgh Penguins Sidney Crosby Evgeni Malkin Jeff Carter Teddy Blueger Combined 2021-22 points-per-game: 0.79 Until proven otherwise, Sidney Crosby and Evgeni Malkin still form one of the best 1-2 punches at centre. Jeff Carter was good last season while Malkin was injured, but he turns 38 in January. However, Teddy Blueger is a third-line calibre centre who’s also one of the Pittsburgh Penguins’ top penalty killers. 5. Toronto Maple Leafs Auston Matthews John Tavares David Kampf Calle Jarnkrok Combined 2021-22 points-per-game: 0.8 While John Tavares may be overpaid, he’s still a first-line centre on most NHL teams. He and Auston Matthews still form a formidable 1-2 punch at centre. David Kampf and Calle Jarnkrok aren’t flashy, but both are reliable, two-way centres. 4. St. Louis Blues Ryan O’Reilly Robert Thomas Brayden Schenn Logan Brown Combined 2021-22 points-per-game: 0.81 Despite garnering the most ice time among St. Louis Blues’ centres, Ryan O’Reilly had a lower points-per-game total (0.74) than both Brayden Schenn (0.94) and Robert Thomas (1.07). 3. Vancouver Canucks J.T. Miller Elias Pettersson Bo Horvat Curtis Lazar Combined 2021-22 points-per-game: 0.78 With Miller at centre, the Canucks easily have one of the best 1-2-3 punches in the NHL. For now, the Canucks are one of the only teams in the league that has two centres with 100-point potential in Miller and Elias Pettersson. That helps boost the Canucks in these rankings, combined with the fact that Bo Horvat is also extremely overqualified as a “third-line” pivot. 2. Tampa Bay Lightning Steven Stamkos Anthony Cirelli Brayden Point/Nick Paul Pierre-Edouard Bellemare Combined 2021-22 points-per-game: 0.74 There’s some intrigue heading into the regular season as to how Tampa Bay’s centres will line up, but they have the potential to ice the best trios in the league. Although Brayden Point was injured for most of the Tampa Bay Lightning’s Stanley Cup run, he did line up beside Nick Paul on a “third line” in the Finals. And although Anthony Cirelli isn’t a prolific point producer, he’s blossomed into one of the best two-way, shutdown centres in hockey. 1. Edmonton Oilers Connor McDavid Leon Draisaitl Ryan McLeod Derek Ryan Combined 2021-22 points-per-game: 0.9 While the Edmonton Oilers lack some depth compared to other teams, the luxury of trotting our Connor McDavid and Leon Draisaitl as your top two centres is something no other team in the NHL can boast. Ryan McLeod showed promise as an effective two-way centre, especially in the 2022 playoffs. Derek Ryan is arguably overqualified as a fourth-line centre, although he’ll be 36 in December.

Dickinson and Pearson for Edmunson and a 5th?

He looks like Elon Musk with Buble's smile

Better of keeping Boeser with Miller and Petey with Pod. Just hope they dont move the others around 2 much

Looking into the future years- I envision Podkolzin Miller Boeser Kuzmenko (if he resigns) - Petey - Lekkerimaki Mikheyev Horvat Garland No space for Pearson long term (yes I know he will lose value) , Hoglander, Klimovich, Karrlsson the 3 young guys are moveable assets for a D man, and i'd rather package them. However, Garland can be moved for a spot for those 3 young forwards. Garland, Myers (retained for 2 years- if we move him this year), Rathbone and a 2nd rd pick? for Chychrun, and Littles contract

Glad he wants to roll 3 offensive lines We can surprise people with a ready to go Petey and 3 offensive lines. Pearson or Hoglander (15g) - Miller (30) - Boeser (30) Kuzmenko (18) - Petey (35) - Podkolzin (22) Mikheyev ( 20) - Horvat (30) - Garland (20) Pearson or Hoglander - Lazar - Dickinson/ Joshua/ Lockwood = 20 goals as a line and with having a scoring winger in the 4th line Heck you can load up the lotto line if need be in a crunch or double shift Petey or miller as need be and not worry imo. 220 goals from your top 3 lines Add 30 goals from your Defence (and thats a low ball) Add 20 goals from your 4th line -- 270 goals for makes us top 10 in goals for and we were top 10 in goals against depsite a crap PK.

Victor Rask at 1M? Idk how he is on the pk tho

We have 5C - just depends on how we deploy them Option A: Miller Petey Horvat Lazar / Dickinson above gives us 3 offensive lines -- Option B Miller Horvat Dickinson Lazar -- only reason we may need another C is for our 2nd PP unit because our first PP is stacked with Miller Petey Horvat , we need someone who can centre our 2nd unit- be offensive minded , win 50% plus of faceoffs and play on our PK --

Hope this games into OT, need a good game as this wjc has been boring minus an upset by Czech

1 and 2 is between Oilers and Flames 3 and 4 - VAN, LA, Vegas - Anyone can take 3, Vegas may have issues with their lack of depth, goaltending issues 6 - Ducks 7, 8 Sharks, Seattle I could see Ducks even challenge for 5 and Vegas drop off

Well then they wonder too why the stands are empty and the cheapest price is 125 ish

How can you have a semi finals game ft. Canada at 1pm . This should be 4pm Pacific / 7pm Eastern and being hyped up across Canada as USA is eliminated.

2024 sitting at 90 possibly, if not 2025. Wish we can sign long term contracts. under 10M before other teams go crazy. Only person who may get paid more then McDavid is Bedard in 4 years time when he may take 15M of a possible 95M cap

Going into the next season with LTIR we will be cap compliant - However the in 2023-2024: the issue rises with primarily the resigning of Miller and Horvat secondary pieces of Kuzmenko, Dermott, Schenn, Hoglander tertiary pieces of :Burroughs and Keeper Based on current cap space projections we would have 23 M approx to resign the above: Miller and Horvat when resigned can take up 16M, leaving 7M for the rest Kuzmenko being the wild card with unknown can take potentially 2 to 3M and heck if he plays really good 4 to 5M a year Hoglander and Schenn if resigned can take 2M and 1M respectively Lets say 3+2+1 = 6M of the 7 left over, meaning enough to sign 1 depth defenseman. Now I'm not saying its impossible, but the $ value should work even in 2023- 2024. --- In 2024 to 2025 we gain an additional 22 Million approximately with needing to resign Pettersson, Pearson, Dickinson, Podkolzin, Myers and Martin Now Petty can easily have a beast of a season the next 2 years and take a cap of hypothetically 9M, Podkolzin continues to grow and takes a bridge deal like Petey and Boeser etc. for near 4M based on his current projection of getting better unless he has a beast of a season and takes 6M, lets call it 5M. Myers can be resigned for depth near 4M. Meaning those 3= 9 + 5 + 4 = 18M We still have 4M left for a back up goalie, and replacing Pearson, Dickinson, and potentially Martin. Now hopefully those players are traded in the season prior as rentals for other teams, asset management but regardless we have the potential of Karlsson, Klimovich, and Lekkerimaki stepping in at this point at ELC. --- 2025 to 2026 we gain an additional 10M with Boeser, Lazar to resign Now based on current projections maybe both take up 8 to 9m when resigned Furthermore at this point the cap should be going up more into possibly the low 90M giving us not and the rest of the teams an extra 5M in spending power. --- My post is pretty much to say we may not be in such a huge cap fiasco as everyone thinks we may be down the road when we are contending for a cup. I believe with smart resignings of core players and with potential in our young studs we have a chance to do it right. If we can find a #1RD soon while not losing key players we have a shot cap wise!

Only time we get Bedard is in 8 years time when he becomes a UFA and walks to us Joining the 2x champs to go for a 3 peat

At the end of the day if Petey plays C next year, we are stacked Kuzmenko Petey Garland Pearson Miller Boeser Mikheyev Horvat Podkolzin each player can put up 20 goals

Mark Messier and Mike Keenan joking, i dont want to get hurt

Henrik Sedin and Bure. 1300 games with a .600 goals per game and 800 assists = 1400 pt career