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  1. 1 hour ago, Rob_Zepp said:

    Actually, JT Miller is what a power forward should be and Ferland is a good player but Miller is a more gifted, faster and heavier guy when he is at his best....and Jake could be as good or better than both if he is willing to take that next step of commitment.

    I'm not so sure. Miller is more of a play maker with a big body so he can shield the puck and take punishment along the boards ala Henrik Sedin (poor comparison, but just to give an idea of what I'm trying to say). I don't think he's necessarily tough to play against though. I think Virtanen's traits will translate better to Ferland's play-style, which is essentially being a complimentary winger who finishes plays and makes life difficult for the opposition. I find it hard to see Virtanen ever thinking the game as well as Miller does, but he can influence the game in other ways.

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  2. 1 hour ago, TGT68 said:

    So does Ferland become the linemate and mold for Jake?  

    I hope Virtanen at least takes notes on Ferlands tenacity.

     

    I for one, am extremely excited to potentially see Virtanen in the playoffs. I think he's the kind of player who will find that extra gear when the whistles get put away.

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  3. 23 minutes ago, Camel Toe Drag said:

    If you’re a pro hockey player and you don’t want to play in the best league in the world you’re weird. 

    How many people in the world go to their jobs thinking "I want be the best at what I do and take on all difficult responsibilities" vs "Another 9-5 before I get to go home"?

     

    People don't need to let their work define them, if they don't love hockey but it's the best way they know to make money then good on them.

  4. 3 minutes ago, stawns said:

    Why would you be scared to see your team compete?  Isn't that the point of the entire existence of the league?

    I'm not so sure we can turn our current defense around in 4 years. 

     

    5 minutes ago, tas said:

    or maybe it means they're just holding down the fort and waiting for a new CBA when the salary cap starts going up substantially again. 

    True. 

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  5. 12 hours ago, 18W-40C-6W said:

    I guess when their careers are done, we'll all be in the right place to fairly and objectively evaluate who the best player/pick was. Just because MT was able to step right in as a winger, doesn't mean he was and will be the best pick over his career or for the team. The fastest runner over the first 100 meters of a 5000 meter race isn't always the winner.

     

    Wingers generally have an easier time making a NHL team vis a vis defensemen. Everyone knows defense is probably the toughest position in hockey to play, and second of course is center. Both positions need alot of situational awareness only gained via playing against men (ie AHL or 4th line), and also as importantly, man strength, which takes time to acquire, not everyone grows at the same pace. Wingers, given a much easier defensive role, don't need as much strength nor awareness. Defensemen have to battle players who are 6'4'' and 220 and be able to stay with guys like Patrick Kane and Mckinnon/Crosby/Mcdavid. Its not easy for an 18/19 yr old to step in guy. And if one does, you better bloody well have a all star D corps to insulate him with. We had a  junk yard. Not to mention they are potentially 4-8 winger spots open to put a player into, vs legitimately 2 (5/6) for a young dman. And in all reality, you don't want a young offensive dman playing 6-8 mins a night on the bottom pairing, this doesn't help his game. He's better off playing top 4 mins, PP and PK vs men in the AHL/Overseas, gaining strength and experience as a step between junior and the NHL. This is all common sense, which many OJ critics ignore.

     

    Right now, sure MT is looking like the better pick, and he's a great player, but it doesn't follow that just because MT is a great player, OJ won't be as well. OJ was known to require a year or two to gain strength, many dmen require that. He then had a couple of unfortunate injuries, else we certainly would have seen him up with the Canucks at some point last year (after a slow start, hard adjustment the first handful of games, by all accounts he was showing quite well). As for Sergachev, he's a disaster in his own end, and was sat multiple times last year because of it, he's getting points on the most offensive team in the NHL, on a superb PP, its not a reflection of how great he is guy. Sergchev has averaged 35.3% dzone starts over his 3 year career for a reason. His deployment heavily offensive because he can't play defense well, and his possession stats are bolstered by playing with the best possession team in the NHL, that scores in bushels full. Context matters. In the playoffs his Dzone starts have averaged 23.1% over 2 years, to me that tells a real story that many don't think about.

     

    The game isn't over champ, and only people who need to feel like they are right jump and down and repeat what you do. Let's revisit how 'bad' a pick OJ was when he's played 250 games in the NHL, by then we'll see what we have. My guess is he gets 20-30 of those games this coming season. I am sure you'll be here to criticize any mistake he makes then as well

    That's all good and well, I never insinuated that Tkachuk and Sergachev were definitively better picks than Juolevi. I only said that the people harping on the pick weren't targeting Juolevi as a player. I still don't think Juolevi is a whipping boy.

  6. 23 minutes ago, Dazzle said:

    "Shoulda drafted Tkachuk"

    "Shoulda drafted Sergachev"

     

    Of course, those people never assume that the above two players may or may not have made the team - nor was there any guarantee that they would've produced. Certainly not Sergachev.

    I don't see that as putting Juolevi down, I see that as putting our scouting staff down and management down. Although I can see why people would take it the wrong way.

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  7. 20 hours ago, Analyst82 said:

    Can't believe this kid is already a whipping boy without even playing a game. 

    Poor guy has ran into tough luck with staying healthy and everyone is already writing him off. Give the kid a God damn fair chance. 

    In what way is he a whipping boy. His odds of reaching his potential have lessened because of the injuries he's had so far in his career. I don't see many people $&!#ting on Juolevi for being Salo reincarnated.

     

    It's just unfortunate.

  8. Olli Juolevi was barely competent in his own zone at the AHL level last year. In what world will he be able to vie for a spot in the NHL come September after a major injury?

     

    Kid needs to develop for at least another year. 

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  9. 6 hours ago, Provost said:

    No way we will really know for a while, seems pretty average... some risks, some guys who were projected higher.

     

    One thing is that Jim still seems reactive rather than having a vision for the type of team he is building.  This year after the playoffs all the talk was that you need size... so he went with size.  Last year the talk was all about speed and size didn’t matter, so he went with speed.

     

    5 years in and I have no idea what identity he wants the team to be, his messaging changes all the time too.

     

    The best GMs have a vision and style and build to that.... no matter what the flavour of the day is.  The league trends are circular... they change, if you are always trying to change course with it you will always be behind the curve.

    This is what I worry about a bit as well. I can almost already see him drafting 6 defenseman next year.

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