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Go and check your timing again. Basically Alf, I really don't give a flying F why he went home - he went home and if that makes him happy that's fine by me. But it wasn't WD who sent him home and there is no record of WD asking him to do anything that another coach wouldn't ask. Asking a 6'-7" 240lb player to intimidate the opposition consistently is the minimum I would expect from the coach of my team. As I say all the same people (including you I recall) who somehow think Tryamkin was being asked to do the unthinkable are the same hypocrites who are on here showing videos of him fighting and sitting players on their ass.
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Get real. If that was the case everyone here would be a hypocrite. This whole thread is set up to intimidate anyone who has a counter view on "the greatness of Tryamkin" You are one of the zealots it appears. I also never said anyone was not entitled to their opinion but they make these opinions in the full knowledge that they will be challenged with counter opinions. I objected to an implication that WD was somehow a bad coach because he was showing early signs of some kind of illness. I didn't join a hockey forum to let cr-p like that go without comment. Maybe it's you who has forgotten what this forum is about if you think that is an acceptable thing to say.
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BS Tryamkin was clearly terrible for Tryamkin.
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You need to know someone before you "defend" them. Wow are the Tryamkin zealots aware of this? I will continue to defend WD against the kind of cretinous accusations made by the likes of SS and others. I will go the extra mile when these accusations are made just to deflect from decent appraisals of Tryamkin.
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You are one sick b-----d. To infer something like that against a coach who has won a Calder Cup AND got to the playoffs with a pretty average team ALL JUST TO SATISFY YOUR OBSESSION WITH TRYAMKIN IS WORTHY OF A BAN. Once more when some posters show a bit more realism about Tryamkin instead of the one -eyed fascination you are afflicted with, you deflect onto a decent coach. Let me remind you once more, if WD was that bad how was his points total the year he was fired only 4 behind Green?
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Your brain has frequent days off and this has been one of them. Are you disrespecting Germany now? " Perhaps no team in sports is as dependent upon who happens to be their coach as Germany's men's ice hockey team. Germany at their best have proved themselves capable of giving the true hockey nations like Canada or Russia serious tests in major tournaments. One needs only to think back to the 2010 World Championship on home soil, when Germany, under then-coach Uwe Krupp twice gave the Russians a scare, losing both matches, including the semifinal, by a single goal. One year later in Bratislava they went one better, beating Russia in the preliminary round 2-0.
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Some say???? Who says? Nobody worth a damn. Did you see what that team was made up from? All the same guys who get laughed at because they can only play in the KHL. He has won the Calder Cup and took the Canucks to the playoffs in his first season. He was fired because JB shafted him with poor replacements. I suppose it's better for the Tryamkin disciples to deflect onto WD
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BS That is just your hang up. A bit sad really. Tryamkin has only himself to thank for his running back home.
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"If you like trombones and salty air" Anyway this is one of my favourite tracks which feature a trombone. (Andy Cato) If you love the sound of the 50's/60's classic girl singers watch this version by Patti Page - "Old Cape Cod"
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You should write for Disney. Where exactly is Rob being unfairly harsh? In your eye (who knows what your eye is worth and who knows if it has better judgement than Rob's) he was one of the top four D's on the Canucks. Let's see now Tanev? no. Edler? no. Stecher doubtful, given that Stech didn't have Tryamkin's 13 games the previous year and yet still scored 24 points to Tryamkin's 9 it's debatable. Stech also had a better Corsi figures, almost 3x the Tk and the same Gv at 33. Stech also had 307 shots to Tryamkin's 162 and a better DPS. All this while Stech was competing for an average of 3+ more mins a night. Hutton? maybe but not clear cut. Hutton also had a higher Corsi and played almost 3.1/2 more mins per night, almost 3x more Tk but 17more Gv, with 130 shots to Tryamkin's 65 Tryamkin had a better +/- of -7 to Hutton's -22. Sbisa definitely not. Sbisa had a +/- of -1 despite playing the full 82 games and was second only to Tanev among Ds who played 29 fewer games. Both Sbisa and Stech also had higher PS figures and Sbisa had the highest DPS of all Ds. In all Sbisa's figures were better all round than Tryamkin's Beiga also had higher Corsi figures and only half the Gv that Tryamkin had with the same Tk. Beiga had a higher PDO but lower DPS. He had 28 fewer shots while playing 30 fewer games. Hits is also an interesting stat, Biega while playing 30 fewer games had 48 fewer hits but this translated to Biega with 33 more hits at equal games played while Biega actually played an average of 4 mins less. This leaves us with Larsen and Gudbranson both of whom had seasons to forget. Larsen due to general poor play and let's just put Gudy's down to injury, which would be fair. So I don't agree that Tryamkin was demonstrably the 4th best D and I also think these stats showed that he was getting pretty fair time on ice. As Rob says the big guy was intriguing but far from the finished article. He made great strides through the season and there is no doubt there was the potential to become 3rd or 4th D but he wasn't there yet. I wonder if this discussion would be even taking place if we take away Tryamkins fights and skirmishes. Oh the irony. Because in all this debate what I find interesting is the hypocrisy of those who feel it is their place to attempt to browbeat the posters who have not fully engorged the Tryamkin kool-aid. These people constantly whine about the coaches showing various videos (including HHOF, Norris, Hart and Kaminsky Trophy winner, Twice Olympic Gold medalist and Stanley Cup winner Chris Pronger) of big defenders who generally achieved all that there was in the game by utilising to the full their physical attributes. What a silly thing to do - right? The point as I understand, the coaches were trying to get over in these videos was they all showed big Ds who achieved success by CONSISTENTLY using their large frames to intimidate the opposition - not to fight, not to cheap shot but to "bully" and bully consistently. This has two benefits, firstly it inspires team mates to copy and become "braver" and secondly it puts forwards off their game. You don't get a rep "for occasionally being physical" you get it for being a beast every night. Yet what do we see from these hypocrites, they cream themselves over videos of Tryamkin knocking people on their ass and a few of him fighting - not many mind, given he played 66 games but enough for the hypocrites to salivate over while whining that Tryamkin shouldn't have to do these sorts of things. Whether some on here have the savvy to understand it or not, these coaches wanted what was best for Tryamkin, they wanted to improve his game (and they did, markedly) they wanted to demonstrate the importance of top fitness and using your god given attributes to further your career and realise your potential. One more thing, we hear a lot about how the management could have done more, maybe so, none of us know what they did for him. However what they did do for him was get him an interpreter and while Tryamkin apparently didn't speak the language very well (team mates said he understood a lot more than he let on) he was not struck dumb and he could have made his "complaints/needs" known to the management through the interpreter or even his agent. What did his agent do to help Tryamkin's dilemma, not much it appears. You might have thought being a Russian himself he might have at least helped to fix him up with a better placed apartment and some Russian speaking friends etc for the big bucks he was making.
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Don't dig his wife up again Alf FFS or SS will black ball you and Hairy Kneel will rip the stitching out of your patches.
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That guy left his feet too or it might not have been so bad.
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It's kind of sad Rob that you have to justify yourself over and over to these pair of zealots. Any criticism at all is treated like someone who has sinned in the eyes of the Mayan Court.
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Alf is a legend in his own treatment room.
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2018-19 Utica Comets Thread
alfstonker replied to stonecoldstevebernier's topic in Prospects / Farm Team
What do you mean "waive some fodder"? What a silly thing to say. What "fodder" do you have in mind? With our predilection for injuries we need every decent player we have got. -
Another song I remember my older brothers raving about (partly because the keyboard player is Canadian, what a beauty - Martha Ladly) was Billy MacKenzie and the Associates "Party Fears Two" Billy apparently died recently but no one listening to this can deny a certain eccentric original talent. I love these songs that bring back memories of the time. They take me right back to some great times.
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Not really a prospect now but what about... Gaunce ???? Why not? Play him where he can attack the net and I think we will see a different type of player. Willie always said a prospect should learn a good defensive game as a foundation for offence, well I think Gaunce has done that admirably - time to see the offence.
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Very good point. I recall quite a few shots of Lidster explaining things to him during a game (with Try nodding away) and that was probably nothing to what the coaches would work on with him away from game day.
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Agreed and I'm surprised after 4 years of Benning drafting anyone would suggest it. We have a GM and scouting staff who seem to be extremely talented in punching above their draft position. Why give away probably two maybe 3 important pieces when the chances are JB will find us a gem in the top 10 anyway. It would likely put us back 2 years, depending on who we were offering. GMs are afraid to trade away a no1 unless they were killing the other team for fear that they might lose their job if it doesn't work out. And that can work both ways.
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The great thing about hockey is if there were not so many variables, the Oilers would already have about 2-3 Cups in the last 10 years.
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Your post is so riddled with inaccurate context and un-researched backgrounds I have realised you are either a troll or you are just wasting my time. For example Butcher and Kerfoot are 23 years old.
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Thanks ST. It appears when writing the last para I glanced down and quoted Marner's age as his AHL appearances. Of course I didn't show any actual AHL games in the list. Not a great attempt but only excuse is suffering from a hellish cold just now. I notice I have also failed to include Reilly's AHL playoff games which brings the total to 22.
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You don't know what you are talking about. Firstly there is a good core of vets in the Leafs roster (but you complain about the Canucks signing vets) secondly if you had bothered to check you would have seen that all the young players barring the No 1 and No 4 picks spent time in the AHL prior to making the NHL. Some others like Nylander spent time in the SHL and the AHL. The 2016-17 roster that went deep in the playoffs were as follows. As you will see there is plenty of veteran and experienced mid 20s players. In the second group you can the number of AHL games played shown after the player's age. Boyle - 32 Bozak - 30 Fehr - 31 Gardiner - 26 Holland - 26 Hunwick - 31 Kadri - 26 Komarov - 30 Martin - 27 Marchenko - 25 Michalek - 31 Polak - 30 Smith - 28 JvR - 27 Zaitsev - 25 Brown - 23 - 110 Carrick - 22 - 192 Reilly - 22 - 14 Hyman - 24 - 72 Marner - 19 Nylander - 20 - 75 Matthews So as I said only Mathews and Marner, very high picks made the team from the draft but Mathews spent a year in the Swiss pro league and Marner played 19 AHL games for the Marlies. You really need to check some relevant background facts before posting wildly inaccurate accusations against the Canucks Management. Are you really a fan, I think Rob is right, more like a plastic fan.
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He's taken one look at Rathbone and said I need a little bit more seasoning.