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@Phil_314 - I appreciate your feedback.  
 

I’m not sure if I quite agree that Benning has leverage over Arizona’s GM.   Arizona isn’t obligated to deal with Vancouver and can simply let OEL sit if he feels that Vancouver is trying to low ball him (or just try and deal with Boston or wait for OEL to extend his desired destinations).   
 

The deal has to make sense for Arizona. They aren’t just going to give us OEL for two young pieces that haven’t lived up to expectations (Virtanen and Juolevi) + our poop (Eriksson, etc.).   
 

If the Canucks get OEL, then OEL and Hughes will likely be our top two LD’s for the next 5 years.  Hence, guys like Juolevi, Rathbone, and even Tryamkin should he decide to return, may have limited opportunity in terms of moving up on the depth chart.     Hence, making them expendible.
 

I would absolutely hate to lose Rathbone but If moving Rathbone (who would essentially be an extraneous piece for us if we had both OEL and Hughes) allows us to keep both Hoglander and Podkolzin, that’s a deal that I easily do.

Ditto for Demko.   We can fantasize all we want about how the Canucks will be able to keep both Demko and Markstrom beyond next season, but all you’re doing is creating another Luongo/Schneider situation, and that’s of course, if Demko doesn’t get picked up in the expansion draft.

If the Canucks can get Arizona to take on some of our garbage contracts that ar buyout friendly (ie Baertschi, Sutter, and Ferland who has a good chance of being LTIR’d, AND not have to give up Hoglander or Podkolzin), then I think we make out like gangbusters.  
 

Next season:

Miller-Pettersson-Boeser

Pearson-Horvat-Toffoli

Roussel-Gaudette-MacEwen

Motte-Beagle-Eriksson

OEL-Myers

Hughes-Tanev

Edler-Stecher

Markstrom

NewBackUp

2021 off-season:

-Hoglander replaces Pearson

-Either Podkolzin replaces one of Toffoli or Boeser (who gets traded for a draft pick), OR Podkolzin gets used as a sweetener to clear out some bad contracts (ie Beagle and Roussel)
-Tryamkin or a cheap 3rd vet that can kill Penalties replaces Edler

-Eriksson moved to a cap floor team (1 year left plus only 2 million in real dollars owed = fairly easy to do).

-Dipietro replaces our vetbackup goalie.

All of the above should allow for the Canucks to be able to sign Pettersson and Hughes.

2021-2022:

Miller-Pettersson-Boeser

Hoglander-Horvat-Podkolzin

Roussel-Gaudette-MacEwen

Motte-Beagle-NewGuy

OEL-Myers

Hughes-Tanev

Tryamkin-Stecher

Markstrom

Dipietro

Sorry but looking at the lineup you created alone already tells me you don't understand about the cap.

Even with trading Sutter and Baertschi, this isn't an EA NHL game from the 2000's with no cap ceiling, so there's next to no way we can bring everyone back (Markstrom, Tanev, Toffoli, OEL and Stecher would probably cost $28-$30 million dollars) and not give up Eriksson who you still have on your 4th line.

I understand the cap but couldn't be arsed to look up the numbers.  

FYI - In my above example, Arizona would take on Sutter, Baertschi, AND Ferland.   The reason why I mentioned those three guys as opposed to Eriksson, is because Eriksson is buyout proof (i.e. minimal cap hit reduction from a buyout), whereas that's not quite the case with Sutter and Baertschi.  Ferland is also an extremely good candidate to be LTIR'd, and so Arizona might be willing to take him on.    

IN:  OEL:  8.25 million

OUT:  Ferland + Baertschi + Sutter:  3.5 million + 3,366,666 million + 4,375 million = 11.241 million

11.241 million - 8.25 million = 2.741 million savings for us.   Arizona would still be cap compliant taking on those contracts, but barely.    Buying all or some of the guys that I mentioned should allow them to afford both Virtanen and Rathbone's cap hits.    

From our end, in an independent deal, we could use Demko as a sweetener to move out Eriksson which would give us the cap space needed to make us compliant for the coming year.     

BTW - my assumption with the Stecher signing is that we'd be able to move Benn somehow without retention.   Otherwise, unqualify Stecher.  

Anyways - the main point I'm trying to make is that both the Canucks and Coyotes could make things work from a cap standpoint before the season starts (either through dealing exclusively with each other or through independent deals once they've made the trade). 

FWIW - I don't think we'll end up moving Demko, and Eriksson would likely go to Arizona.   One of our young d-men that doesn't go to AZ (i.e. Rathbone or Juolevi), would end up being used in an independent deal to move someone like Baertschi or Ferland.