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Two of Myers/Sutter/Eriksson, one or two of Rathbone/Juolevi/Hoglander, Stecher, probably another prospect/AHL player and definitely our 2021 1st for OEL and a depth player coming back is probably going to be around what the offer is, if not more.
Which, to get someone like OEL and to get rid of one or two of Myers/Sutter/Eriksson’s contracts is a no-brainer.
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@Phil_314 - I appreciate your feedback.
I’m not sure if I quite agree that Benning has leverage over Arizona’s GM. Arizona isn’t obligated to deal with Vancouver and can simply let OEL sit if he feels that Vancouver is trying to low ball him (or just try and deal with Boston or wait for OEL to extend his desired destinations).
The deal has to make sense for Arizona. They aren’t just going to give us OEL for two young pieces that haven’t lived up to expectations (Virtanen and Juolevi) + our poop (Eriksson, etc.).
If the Canucks get OEL, then OEL and Hughes will likely be our top two LD’s for the next 5 years. Hence, guys like Juolevi, Rathbone, and even Tryamkin should he decide to return, may have limited opportunity in terms of moving up on the depth chart. Hence, making them expendible.
I would absolutely hate to lose Rathbone but If moving Rathbone (who would essentially be an extraneous piece for us if we had both OEL and Hughes) allows us to keep both Hoglander and Podkolzin, that’s a deal that I easily do.
Ditto for Demko. We can fantasize all we want about how the Canucks will be able to keep both Demko and Markstrom beyond next season, but all you’re doing is creating another Luongo/Schneider situation, and that’s of course, if Demko doesn’t get picked up in the expansion draft.
If the Canucks can get Arizona to take on some of our garbage contracts that ar buyout friendly (ie Baertschi, Sutter, and Ferland who has a good chance of being LTIR’d, AND not have to give up Hoglander or Podkolzin), then I think we make out like gangbusters.
Next season:
Miller-Pettersson-Boeser
Pearson-Horvat-Toffoli
Roussel-Gaudette-MacEwen
Motte-Beagle-Eriksson
OEL-Myers
Hughes-Tanev
Edler-Stecher
Markstrom
NewBackUp
2021 off-season:
-Hoglander replaces Pearson
-Either Podkolzin replaces one of Toffoli or Boeser (who gets traded for a draft pick), OR Podkolzin gets used as a sweetener to clear out some bad contracts (ie Beagle and Roussel)
-Tryamkin or a cheap 3rd vet that can kill Penalties replaces Edler-Eriksson moved to a cap floor team (1 year left plus only 2 million in real dollars owed = fairly easy to do).
-Dipietro replaces our vetbackup goalie.
All of the above should allow for the Canucks to be able to sign Pettersson and Hughes.
2021-2022:
Miller-Pettersson-Boeser
Hoglander-Horvat-Podkolzin
Roussel-Gaudette-MacEwen
Motte-Beagle-NewGuy
OEL-Myers
Hughes-Tanev
Tryamkin-Stecher
Markstrom
Dipietro
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Sorry but looking at the lineup you created alone already tells me you don't understand about the cap.
Even with trading Sutter and Baertschi, this isn't an EA NHL game from the 2000's with no cap ceiling, so there's next to no way we can bring everyone back (Markstrom, Tanev, Toffoli, OEL and Stecher would probably cost $28-$30 million dollars) and not give up Eriksson who you still have on your 4th line.
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I understand the cap but couldn't be arsed to look up the numbers.
FYI - In my above example, Arizona would take on Sutter, Baertschi, AND Ferland. The reason why I mentioned those three guys as opposed to Eriksson, is because Eriksson is buyout proof (i.e. minimal cap hit reduction from a buyout), whereas that's not quite the case with Sutter and Baertschi. Ferland is also an extremely good candidate to be LTIR'd, and so Arizona might be willing to take him on.
IN: OEL: 8.25 million
OUT: Ferland + Baertschi + Sutter: 3.5 million + 3,366,666 million + 4,375 million = 11.241 million
11.241 million - 8.25 million = 2.741 million savings for us. Arizona would still be cap compliant taking on those contracts, but barely. Buying all or some of the guys that I mentioned should allow them to afford both Virtanen and Rathbone's cap hits.
From our end, in an independent deal, we could use Demko as a sweetener to move out Eriksson which would give us the cap space needed to make us compliant for the coming year.
BTW - my assumption with the Stecher signing is that we'd be able to move Benn somehow without retention. Otherwise, unqualify Stecher.
Anyways - the main point I'm trying to make is that both the Canucks and Coyotes could make things work from a cap standpoint before the season starts (either through dealing exclusively with each other or through independent deals once they've made the trade).
FWIW - I don't think we'll end up moving Demko, and Eriksson would likely go to Arizona. One of our young d-men that doesn't go to AZ (i.e. Rathbone or Juolevi), would end up being used in an independent deal to move someone like Baertschi or Ferland.
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let's not trade for oel unless myers is going the other way
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Hmm, though I suppose neither of them really help Arizona's cap scenario either. They have to sign players and they have nearly no cap space. Don't imagine they'd be looking to take much cap back, which would require more decisions on our end to facilitate the move.
Ideally we just don't pursue and he goes to Boston.
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TIL John A Macdonald was a sympathizer to the slavers in the civil war!
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politics can rarely be argued in good faith, but even less so on the internet
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confused react drama is probably the most hilarious cdc drama I’ve seen since johnny hockey is 99 posted about getting a fly in his ear in india
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is reaves still enemy #1? did he do anything tonight?
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Reaves has been invisible. And silent. No chicken clucking, no mugging for the camera, no laughing, no taunting. It is almost as if he realizes that at 33, with no offensive contribution and eight goals, fifteen points and a $2.775 million salary, and now a UFA, his career could be over before the frost is on the pumpkin.
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I wish I had a girlfriend.
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just got approved for my first solo apartment today!
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Good for you.
Always good to invest in real estate,start small, work up slowly and carefully and retire without a mortgage and you are in gravy.
Wise decisions are sometimes scary and the cash flow will be tight for the near future but it is the end game that will look rosy.
You will then have the leverage to see how the banks can crunch the numbers in your favour and invest in things you enjoy like helping your family or travel or more property.That perfect sized dream house or whatever.
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just bought a $30 authentic Horvat jersey from sportchek, if y'all want one with the VANCOUVER on the front
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For anyone who likes both politics and hockey, PJ Fournier's 338Canada is now doing hockey odds like he did ridings
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As of today, the Canucks have better odds of winning the Cup than the Lightning, Oilers, and Leafs do as per moneypuck
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I get to interview a former ostrich farmer on Monday! I swear, being a journalist is gonna give me some sweet stories.
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Happy birthday!!
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Still not big on the Myers signing, but this might have been GMJB's best offseason otherwise
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Even if he doesn't blow people away having him as depth is great, he takes some of the weight off of Edler and Tanev's veteran shoulders. Benn does too.
What's really made me happy about Benning's work this summer is he's been able to nail the dollar amount without giving away term to compensate for it.
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If Myers gets signed to 7x8... yikes.
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I'm surprised this board has been alive for 12+ years and no one's started a canucks fanfic portion of the website
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Apparently the Canucks want to leapfrog the Oilers to select Broberg... ugh. Just take him at 10
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Y'all remember when Dmitry Zhukenov was being compared to Pavel Datsyuk?
I 'member.
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Loving the new unis.