DrJockitch

They can recoup some assets if they suck. Can probably get at least what they gave at the deadline especially with a second tier of retention.

Yes but it really seems like a mismatch of coaching style and team makeup. That being said, if Podz takes a step into permanent middle six player, Mik is back and healthy and Pearson is back we have gone a long way to changing in a direction that suits the coach. Even with his diminutive size, Hogz also seems like a Toch kind of player.

I think he has a deal in place for mid-September. I suspect bigger than one giant D going out, suspect one little winger goes with him. Otherwise we will probably see another training camp deal like last year, which is probably the worst deal he has made other than waisting assets on Studnicka.

Don’t think it really matters to much anymore, it is more the extra press that is the main component. would prefer someone who embodies professionalism but isn’t primary scorer.

Well speed never does but don’t forget the golden Brent.

Twins were a bit thicker and squarer in the shoulders. Elias has a little more sloped shoulders and a more slender build. Built more like Ryan Smyth but moves much much much better than him or the twins.

We could definitely use a right shot centre but Sutter isn’t it. Do we even have a right hand centre in the organization? He may be fine in a fourth line role, he was never better than that with us. Would rather see a younger player on that role. Lineup keep looking better on paper, ideally need to lose 2 wingers under 5’10”, find at least a depth right shooting centre, and loose a third pairing right D but there are no perfect lineups in the NHL.

All appearances are that Pearson will be healthy so wouldn’t bet on that. Frankly we could use him too. We don’t have enough players that go to the net and provide some grit and he can do that. Pearson-Sutter-Garland/Podz could be a pretty decent third line. Personally would like to see Podz with JTM and Brock.

I don’t think a coach like Toch is going to play a third line that averages 5’9”.

Great add. Must be a deal on place to move some cap, we are way over.

Not enough to stop the cheap shots which was my original point.

After the play is over and he already pulled his shit. Yeah real deterrent.

Goons don't stop illegal or ill advised hits, they usually initiate them. I haven't believed the theory that having a goon keeps people honest in over a decade. The game is too fast and when these things happen they happen so fast the player isn't thinking oh there is a big guy that is going to punch me for a few seconds if I do this. I also don't think the threat of getting punched a few times is really all that scary to any pro hockey player.

I think you have that backwards. Wolanin was the top D in the AHL , he elevated Woo who up until last season was barely a depth AHL guy. Woo deserves credit for how much he improved last year but he isn’t the reason Wolanin was so good. Woo is finally looking like a solid AHL defenceman but it is a big jump from there to NHL regular, just ask Breezy and Juulsen. Matt Irwin will be on the team. He was brought in because he is a very effective penalty killer. He will be in the NHL all season, may not play every night but will be there.

Woohoo. I am 100% on both. Wolanin.

Jonestown massacre killed 900 people. Jim Jones got them to drink the kool-aide killing all of them. Similar the Branch Dividians in Waco. I am sure there are innumerable more.

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Jim Benning

That’s your opinion. He was paid to produce and be foundational. He didn’t produce and wasn’t that good defensively or really all that physical. He was bad with the young players. He was big, right handed and good at face offs and provide a small amount of physical play. He was behind the play frequently and was where offence went to die. He was a decent 4th line C getting paid a fortune and crapping on our youth. hope he has recovered and glad he has moved on.

Hope a couple years have healed up his body because he was always injured with us before he got COVID. Never thought he was very good. Hope he is not very good in Edmonton.

This isn't a psychopath, a term not actually used anymore, it is a psychosis. Those are very different things. What we think of as a psychopath is someone who holds no value for life, in particular human life. Psychosis are florid episodes that disconnect a person from reality and often happen in episodes. They sometimes happen later in life but usually presentation starts around early 20s. These poor people are often driven by hallucinations and fixed beliefs that make no sense to anyone but are very real to them. The person is often not under control they frequently have uncontrollable visions and hallucinations often compelling them to do things they would never do outside of the psychosis. Now some people think this is a weakness in character but that isn't what is happening. This person that Joe started the conversation about sounds like a good kind person that something happened to. That being said, what we think of as psychopaths often will seem that way but there is something dark lurking behind. These are criminal acts, psychosis should not be though many on this board think we should go back to locking up anyone with a history or potential for psychosis.

You are quick to spread your prejudices to anyone who disagrees with you. Amazing how quickly you can discard experience and expertise if it suits you. You are both callous and uninformed. I never said I didn't feel for the victims I absolutely do. I think the act was terrible but creating more victims does not solve it. You can't comprehend the mental health side and assume that anyone in the field can't have a valid opinion because it doesn't line up with yours. This is a great example of how internet bullies work. Let's take a look at it from a non-health care aspect. Jail is meant as rehabilitation, it isn't, but that is what it is meant for. How much rehabilitation does someone in a florid psychosis need. What is the appropriate punishment for being in a florid psychosis. You want to criminalize mental illness, what is appropriate punishment for someone who is depressed? Bipolar?, clearly you feel anyone with schizophrenia should be locked up for life because something may happen. Your solution is to take a tragedy, toss a mentally ill person in jail to live off taxpayers forever and wash your hands of the problem. You have solved nothing, created a travesty of justice and burned a tonne of money. Nobody is back alive, nobody is rehabilitated. All you have is another person that is locked up for mental illness and those that have prejudices like yours feel justified but you have changed and helped nothing. The only point you have made that is correct is that the mental health system is strained beyond belief in Canada and the pandemic made it much worse. Luckily you have a solution, the criminal justice system.

That is a completely different case involving bath salts. Now I agree he chose to take the bath salts, he should be responsible for his actions. Letting him out in 10 years is a travesty. The death penalty for the insane that is getting spewed above though doesn’t seem reasonable outside of authoritative fascist governments.

Actually this is not crap. I have a lot of experience working in the field but expertise doesn’t matter up against these prejudices. Mental illnesses vary in severity and grade and this is very severe. You have your opinion and is just filled with an abundance of prejudices and assumptions. To come out and say that though you know nothing specifically here but because, you know people with mental illness that don’t kill people, it is clearly a defect in his character is clearly a derogatory prejudiced statement that doesn’t ignore the facts, it completely disregards a need for them. You decided on what you think of the person and yell your opinion until everyone agrees. I don’t agree. I am a part of the medical community. I work with serious mental illness every day and I have seen people teeter on this brink. Now again I know experience and knowledge are nothing in the face of internet experts who eschew knowledge for their predetermined outcomes. Your comment about about mental health problems being okay until they effect other people is an absolute farcical self own and shows how little you know while spewing your expert opinion. Prejudice against people with mental health problems keeps them from seeking help every day, preventing the potential identification of people at risk for these kinds of psychosis. Depending on pre morbid conditions too something as simple as UTI can cause a delirium which can lead to tragic consequences. This isn’t a stretch it is well understood. You don’t know the situation here but have no problem condemning someone.

Maybe you actually need to see serious mental health issues in action to understand because all you are giving is judgement with no understanding of what you are talking about. He is not a convicted murderer. He was found to be not of the right mind to make that kind of choice and was sent for treatment not jail. This wasn't someone who decided "hey I am sad I am going to go kill my family," this is someone who lost connection with reality. Prejudice like yours is very common when dealing with mental health disorders and it is tragic and leads to ongoing belittling and blaming someone in a situation out of their control and reduces our chances to identify people at risk of this kind of break and intervening before the tragedy.