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[Rumour] J.T. Miller Trade/Contract Talks
IBatch replied to Podzilla's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
Agree for the most part except that nothing could be a sad sack of potatoes that rubs us as fans for awhile. It does happen. Trade flops and we waste cap on whomever comes here. Unlikely but possible. And the nothing isn't nothing if it means we make the playoffs and our guys get valuable experience. Pretty sure if Miller has another boffo season the city and province will be buzzing come April with anticipation. To me at least, a solid showing next Spring, plus his cap back and a nice see you later is more then worth the price paid for him. Not saying that's my preference, just pointing out it's not so terrible either. Have zero issues just enjoying him for one more year. And no i'm not Jim Benning lol. Not a fan of a re-sign unless it's 8-8.5 x 6 which also would be ok. By the time Miller fades, EP will be ready to take over. If we had EP, Demko, QHs locked in full term things would be different. We don't. Will be interesting to see which lane Allvin takes. Not holding my breath for a big return though, i've been consistent with that since last season. But do understand best possible case is we do trade him, and those guys work out really well for us so get where your coming from and others in the trade Miller camp. All 3 scenarios have their pro's and con's. Tough to pull a huge piece out of the lineup if we are playing as well as we did down the stretch or better until the TDL though. Really doubt he's traded in that case. Preferably if it's going to happen, it needs to happen before the puck drops in October. -
[Rumour] J.T. Miller Trade/Contract Talks
IBatch replied to Podzilla's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
Nothing wrong with having extra leadership on your team. Being a Captain for sure is a huge honour at the NHL level, and it's no coincidence, that teams often pick a vet over an up and coming star. The only C i disagreed with was picking Naslund over Jovo. Hank was fine. As far as Smyl goes i absolutely agree, try and find one guy in the entire league like that now. They don't exist anymore. Have to change with the times. Horvat was the best choice at the time, and he's grown into the role well enough. Orr, considered one of the best leaders all-time by Sportsnet, who released a book awhile ago, never wore the C on the big bad Bruins. He wasn't the only one either, Howe was also way up on their ranking list, ahead of Lindsay actually (4th i believe), although he was also way up there. Recall the start of last year and all the new faces. And the way they talked about how much leadership was in our dressing room. Your setting yourself up for disappointment if your still waiting for a Smyl type. Linden ... well let's just say, I for one am happy to have Horvat. And hope we get to see if he can keep up what he managed both as a green player against CAL (he was very good for us) and of course in the bubble ... nobody could handle St. Louis O'Reilly line but Horvat, certainly wasn't Miller or EP. That line was dangerous every single shift and guess who was sent over the boards to mitigate it, and guess who did his best Linden impression. -
[Rumour] J.T. Miller Trade/Contract Talks
IBatch replied to Podzilla's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
I absolutely get it. To me Miller is a great player and almost exactly what i hope for in a a Canuck. That's really tough (and rough!) to ignore. And don't think it's the end of the world IF we just let things play out with him in the lineup, and the exchange is playoffs. And then give him a nice send off see you later, enjoy your legacy deal (somewhere else). It's not going to ruin this team for sure, so many different things have been said about how he's been an inspiration...Podz most recently, looking at him, and what it's like to be a pro and play 26 minutes a game down the stretch where he was trying to keep his legs going with his minutes. Bruce i'm sure enjoys having him too. Guess i've reached the acceptance stage. Wanted to move Pearson and whatever we could during the bubble. Didn't happen. Given what happened after Allvin took over, it looks like they are willing to be patient with this team as well. Have big doubts EP is ready to take on his role next season. Actually think Horvat needs to take over his insulation role IF Miller isn't in the lineup. Sometimes the best way forward is just to let the chips fall where they may. Obviously no team has offered up anything that moves the needle enough or a trade would have already been made. Kept saying this during the Bruce bump and down the stretch, maybe this year he's so good the value gets where it needs to be. Last season, and if anyone can correct me with actual facts - the trade return was all B.S., and became so constant that some on this site started to believe a reliable source existed where i sure couldn't find any. NYR wasn't and didn't offer up Schnieder for example. Maybe that changes. Sure could have used Miller last playoffs. As for his deal...well sure some crazy ones again this summer. Good thing for us and other teams, the overall available cap is becoming so slim .... that guys up next season probably take a long time to hash out by the time UFA season roles around. Millers and Horvats camp i'm sure are aware of this, same with every other guy who can sign now. It's a GM advantage that likely makes next UFA season a total slog. Unfortunately for us, i don't see much Miller action anytime soon. And if i had to make an actual bet, i'd say unless it happens before the season, better chance it doesn't happen at all. Pretty sure EP Miller ?? will be our top line again too. Glut of forwards allows for it. And that the owners, would prefer a playoff run over a 48-63 million dollar commitment and don't blame them for that either. Won't be the first guy we've had and wished we had longer (Larionov, Courtnall, Walker, Peca, Nedved, Ronning, Neely, Fraser even Nedved at the time etc ) of those guys Larionov and Courtnall were a similar age though. This is when the cap gets pretty frustrating. If we didn't have Demko i'd be all in for a COL style re-set. -
The only players that deserve some consideration on the current team, are QHs , EP and Miller. Pretty straight forward there. OP... Malik? No McArthy or Lanz or Reinhardt love (yet). Must haves: Mogilny and Bure. Pure skill wise, we've never had anything like them. Don't forget the Sedins couldn't make it work until the rule changes came in...for those guys it didn't matter before and during the dead puck era. Should haves: Sedins, Naslund, Linden, Ohlund, Luongo and McLean Probably should haves: Ronning, Miller, EP, QHs, Reinhardt, Kesler, Bertuzzi, Smyl, Lumme, Jovo. Maybes: Lidster, Lanz, McArthy, Mitchell, Salo, Edler, Hamhuis, Bieksa, Courtnall, Adams, Tanti, Gradin, Burrows, Peca, Babych. Edit: Add Larionov to maybes ... also is this just while they played here? I'm assuming that's the case... Honourable mentions - Neely - he was never played properly, Fraser, Walker, Williams ... teams need toughness too. Diduck, Momesso, a few others too that could play the game and pound away. Kurtenbach as well.
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[Rumour] J.T. Miller Trade/Contract Talks
IBatch replied to Podzilla's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
If i may, let's be real, teams who will be interested in Miller are playoff bound, the most serious of the bunch likely contenders. That's a later first best case, quite likely a late first. Almost certainly not a player we'd see on the team for a couple of years...pretty sure he's going to be on the opening roster, which is going to make it awfully hard to trade Miller at the deadline assuming we are in a good spot. If not, we take the best deal we can ... a lot of folks (but not all), overrated his return last deadline and nothing happened. Then it was the draft - still nothing. What the "experts" said he was worth was similar to the deal Claude Giroux got PHI.... last deadline. A roster player (for cap reasons), a grade A prospect - Tippet is one but also rather a meh one, and a first, of course a late one in this case. Sure it's not impossible, but sure have a tough time figuring out who in even the 10-15 range would be willing to trade with us. Why would they "load up" just for a shot at making the playoffs? Miller has premier rental written all over him. From a decent-contender level team. And if one of those 10-15ish level teams go for it this off season with him ... well they'd have to get some pretty bad luck to not improve their lot. For sure it's the prospect that will be the main piece coming in... and he should be close ... which is good. -
[Discussion] Projecting Pacific Division 2022/23 Final Finish
IBatch replied to VegasCanuck's topic in Canucks Talk
This division is very tough to predict. Overall it's made modest improvements but not by much let's be real. LA lol...not there yet, i actually doubt they make the playoffs but should be a bubble team, Blake's re-tool is paying dividends. CAL ... isn't as good. Also we all know that Markstrom isn't going to take them far into the playoffs. Not unless they have a good back-up that splits games in the regular season. JH mitigates some things ... Tanev ... well he also went down. They are worse then last season. Vegas..screwed the pooch completely with Eichel, not that he isn't a good player because he is, but lost all so much depth, no longer a lock. EDM. For sure the front runner to win the division. Almost a lock really. Voted for them. Kane signing ... Hyman ... RNH... their D is flawed like ours, goaltending a question mark but still, this will be a very good regular season team. VAN. Modest improvements like LA. With Miller id say we are a lock for a top three finish, decent chance at second, odds of first depend on EDM and one of McDavid or Drasaitl missing significant time. Suspect 2-4 finish. Without Miller i'm not going to hypothesize, not sure EP is ready for that role yet. But decent odds even if we trade Miller. ANA...still rebuilding, doubt they are there yet but never know for sure. Zegras was something else wasn't he? And Gibson was like Demko for years while they sucked. He bounces back could be a wild card bubble team. Seattle...nice to have a team to beat up on, taking ARI spot. Reality is, hockey rarely follows the script. IF we are the team we saw under Bruce, for sure we are a lock for the post season. A lot of what we needed was addressed with the forward group. Our PP was dynamite down the stretch, our PK improved...if that gets better which it should, not much to worry about. 8-11th winning percentage depending on what sample size you believe ... 11th overall since Bruce took over - final stretch push 8th. 8th pushes us into the conversation of a deep playoff run. SJ... needs a full rebuild and is going to have a lot of pain in their future, much like we did when JB came in. Hertl lol i suppose he plays half the role the Sedins did .. 5 years at least before we even have to think about worrying about them. -
Pronger to me at least, was the best D in the world from the time AL Mac refined his game in St. Louis and he won all that hardware, until he landed in ANA...no wonder they won a cup despite been penalized 3-1 throughout (Burke got his type of team lol) ... Haven't seen a defenseman put a team on his back like he did in EDM, was easy to hate too, but everyone wanted him at the same time (the people i know anyways, complete game including the dirty stuff) Thanks for sharing, hilarious stuff!
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[Signing] Flames re-sign Jonathan Huberdeau
IBatch replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
Felt it was a pretty ordinary comment "we have a number in mind, their camp does too, and right now it's far apart etc" and that he's not going to tip his hand or discuss it much because he seems pretty professional. They are going to have to deal a lot of Miller questions... so far pretty ordinary routine stuff. The time to deal with contract length would be during the next CBA...couple seasons away yet but not too far out. The players each get one vote, it would help the vast majority to go do this, a select few get most of the pie as it is right now. They hate escrow, and buyouts still count for the cap. Part of their system is goofy, like signing bonus and regular pay as well, players in their 30's getting most of their money upfront so they can retire or set up for an easy buyout for example... -
[Signing] Flames re-sign Jonathan Huberdeau
IBatch replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
If Miller moves on, that cap probably ends up getting divy'd up pretty quickly...spread around that is, and we run with EP and Horvat down the middle. I don't see us going after his replacement, rather possibly using it to address our D, or maybe leveraging the cap space from a desperate team that's bumped up against the cap and can't afford a player (Devon Toews/Sakic deal would sure be nice!)...next off season cap is going to be king. It's part of the reason i won't get upset if Miller isn't traded at all...if we get some playoff experience and his cap back because he's just too steep. Feel slim odds he's traded if we start the season with him. And fair odds we re-sign him. There isn't a scenario that's actually bad regarding Miller as long as the teams careful with how it's managed (8-8.5 x 6, or a grade A prospect, a meh roster player on an expiring deal and a pick - or playoffs and he walks, use that cap elsewhere to fill a need)... -
[Signing] Flames re-sign Jonathan Huberdeau
IBatch replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
As for this contract. The next CBA needs to address this. No way should players in their 30's, be allowed to sign such ridiculous deals. They need to start limiting the term. Drop it down to six years IF they are on your team, five years as a UFA signing on a different team. All it does is create issues that come up later. Very good production from a UFA vet - GMs should be considering pure production wise for forwards, is a point every 100k. No way JH is going to score 105 for 8 seasons lol...not even close. Same with Johnny Hockey for that matter (earn his next deal). RFAs absolutely need to get that production as well. Miller at 8.5 is actually pretty decent value. And he should get it too. Over 10 lol, well one boffo season and another close to it ... that's a big overpayment and the cap needs to go up a lot to make it half way decent. A terrible deal. It is going to affect others up next year as well. At least JT Miller, Horvat etc, won't find themselves in a great bargaining position given there won't be much cap space left to find anywhere next season. Quite a few teams will be trying awfully hard to dump their cap on a few teams that do. ARI is actually in the cat birds seat in that regard...glad they aren't in our division anymore. Seattle hasn't done a good enough job leveraging that thankfully. Yet at least. Think the NHLPA would also be better served, less buyouts means the majority has a larger pool of money available to them. RFA deals also come back to bite teams too often ... they should also be reduced by a year. -
[Signing] Flames re-sign Jonathan Huberdeau
IBatch replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
It's a two way street as well. Miller is pretty decent 5 x 5, sure he gets his PP points but it's not like he's feasting on it either like some first line players (50/50)... Watching him go up against an entire OTT line live, come in and score was a pretty boss move. QHs is an exceptional puck mover and walks the line as well or better then anyone in the league right now, but you still need the guys he's passing the puck to finish. Miller and EP are the ones down low making those passes, QHs gets third assists often because he's able to keep the puck in, but isn't making most of his passes through legs cross ice etc, just moving the piece's on the chess board around to open a lane if he can (which for sure is worthy of that second assist!).. Funny how Miller was scoring at a 130ish rate near the end of the season once EP started going... not a coincidence. -
[Signing] Flames re-sign Jonathan Huberdeau
IBatch replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
It's an assumption regardless, all his pressers are very positive - more so then other players that left at least (says more then just all the right things these guys seem to be trained to do about their teams except a select few that ask to be traded). In Vancouver he knows he's the man, and will keep being the man...and genuinely seems grateful that this was the team that finally gave him a shot. Wouldn't go so far as to say he has no intention to re-sign with us, his camp already has a number that works for him to stay. The crap crap crap part is, to match even the half dozen high tax US teams (CALI and NY ones), we'd have to add 4-5%. Most 11-16%. And you'd think most US players traded to Vancouver, MTL, OTT and TO would be a little peeved about the lost wages (for Miller if he's here the entire season, that's, 3.5ish overall on his TB deal). Until this is addressed, it's going to continue to make it awfully hard for most CAN teams to compete. ANA is the only one since the cap came in, that won a cup, and some of those guys were signed before the cap came in, that matches CAL, EDM and at the time, VAN. For sure Miller is going to get over 8 somewhere. The term...well maybe now 7-8 is also going to be on the table as well. Personally think that's not a deal that works for our team anyways. 8-8.5x 6 would be ok though. -
[Signing] Flyers re-sign Zack MacEwen
IBatch replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
And this is where WAR fails. Zack was great in the AHL, a star for sure, it's too bad he hasn't developed a bit more, but he's exactly the type of player once a upon a time everyone had to be if they wanted to make the NHL as a fringe player - people that think these guys are a dime a dozen (Gadj too), well are they? Pretty sure they are not, we don't have anyone on our team like him, at least at the NHL level. Maroon ... those guys are also rare and big reason he's on the cup was it 3 years in a row? -
[Rumour] J.T. Miller Trade/Contract Talks
IBatch replied to Podzilla's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
And also understand that right now is also part of their window. Which absolutely it is. For sure they will play with two different cores assuming they want to stay. Which of course is not a foregone conclusion. They, like virtually every other young star(s), will be parts of two cores. Nothing wrong with pushing hard to get them the post season experience they need now. To me Millers price will be paid in full and some if we make the post season and they gain that critical development. So many players have talked about that vet that helped them understand while they were younger. Hate Messier all you want, but Naslund said way more about how he helped him, then the Sedins ever commented about Sundin (one comment, one, somehow became a legend lol around that)... Guerin in PIT to their first cup... Gary Roberts for other guys. Linden of course during his second time through for us. Podz comments about Miller recently this summer. For them to become the players we want them to be, they still need that older crew above them. By the time they are Horvats and Millers age, Demko will be on his next deal - either with or without us. And it's quite possible QHs goes to play with his brothers, or make an extra 1.5- 2ish million on the same deal we offer him. We can't assume they all stay. Build around them absolutely, but also this team needs to get past the middle of the row hurdle for them to even want to stay. -
[Rumour] J.T. Miller Trade/Contract Talks
IBatch replied to Podzilla's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
Yes i know i was in a sour mood. We both almost always have the same things to say, sometimes almost verbatim ...and despite the pessimistic post, and after 40ish years of following this team i'm still an optimist (someone shoot me!) about the Canucks winning a cup someday. Posted about this in another thread "unpopular opinion", going into detail about the same things, taxes, expansion and how tough it is for any Canadian team to compete these days as far as icing a great team. MTL fans i'm sure loved their run, but it's been a long time since their Roy 93 run and that team was probably the worst team i've ever seen win a cup. Roy was unbelievable. Not that it was terrible either just mediocre at best ... and pre-cap. So a great goalie can win it by himself...mostly. But Demko isn't Roy either...closest we've ever had was Luongo.. And my unpopular opinion was best case and said it when JB arrived too, is going to be part of the next core and the one coming up behind it. And hope i'm right , and hope i'm also wrong. It's razor thin each year some dark horse does some damage, and occasionally one makes the final (MTL). Anyways we've both talked about Miller and spent quite a bit of time scratching my head at least trying to find anyone aside from a generational/franchise talent that actually is still a PPG player past 33/34 these days...good luck finding them, Pavelski, Bergeron, Crosby, Ovi, and Malkin lol. Small list right? Think that's been pointed out enough. Pretty sure we can expect 3 good years and then 3 meh years. I doubt he's getting 7-8 next season, cap is going to be even more bunged up. 8.5-9 x 6 seems likely. I also think he'd have a tough time not going to a US team that makes room for him either. Taking home and extra 1.4 mill on the same deal ... would be pretty tempting. IF he's not signed/traded by the start of the season, i doubt we trade him at the TDL because i think this teams pretty good right now already. Also agree the tactical way to approach this is trade Miller, for a RHD ideally, and agree i like Myers but he's not enough on his own, no succession plan. Miller should get us a grade A prospect, a roster player with an expiring contract that's vanilla around Dickie/Pearson cap wise, and a late first. And the cap space back to help later. aGENT i love that you've stayed the course regarding Miller. For me, i'm fine with what the GMs decide to do. I love Miller too. Don't like the cap at all right now lol. I'm not convinced EP is ready to take on the top job upfront yet, but pretty sure that's coming too. By the time Miller IF we re-sign him, starts to slide, we've got EP to take over. JR wants long term lines. So that does work kind of. Miller slides to the left side. I'm actually ok with keeping Miller and letting him walk as well. Because that means this team is going into the post season guns ablazing. It's hockey and you just never know. Down the stretch we were impressive. If we play a little better then that all year, i can't wait to see the excitement on this forum and the buzz around the city/country (fans all over of this team!). COL fans were very nervous we'd sneak in and they'd have to play us for good reason. With Green gone, and a better PK group going in... Theres my optimism showing up. Also agree this team can be good starting next season right until we have to figure out how to keep QHs and Demko. That's when i believe we see a re-tool/re-set coming in. Done right this team could be like St. Louis, as in a long term, regular playoff team, and eventually get our chance with the younger group. Horvat probably gets 6.5 x 8, Miller 8-9 x 6 depending on this season and when he signs. We can actually jam all these guys in. Right thing to do? I don't think a re-set like COL did is possible unless we start by trading Demko. And pretty sure JR and Allvin will play the hand they were dealt based on how next season goes. Strength down the middle, forward depth, and great goaltending is enough these days to compete. PIT ... their D was pretty lame first cup, mediocre the second when Letang played some games. Can't have it all these days...well not in Canada anyways. And even in the US only TB can say they have it all. Edit: Bruce. I love this guys frankness, and the fact he has coached a great team in WSH. Ovi was starting his third core when that team finally won a cup. Their first core was actually very good too. Seems like ages ago now. And of course JR with CAR (mostly vet team that won that cup) and of course PIT. I'd be stoked if they can tweak this team to become the first one since 89, re-set early 90's, that was even better in the post season. First crack was thumbs up ... Sedins took forever to make an impact in the post season. EP, QHs and even Brock, all looked comfortable, and Horvat has a beast of a series going head to head against O'Reilly ... 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[Rumour] J.T. Miller Trade/Contract Talks
IBatch replied to Podzilla's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
I'm being realistic. I don't see this team contending either way ... sad but true. Feel it's going to take parts of the next core, and the one behind it best case for it to work. And more then anything, we need to try and find our own competitive advantage, because it certainly isn't taxes. Swedes, i get that is an avenue they are working on. We can make noise all we want, but COL is a bad comp. Demko is in the way of a tank job. RHD, Myers is considered overpaid - and his replacement likely will be too. McAvoy, sure that's great let's do that. Only one of him. Drafting likely or a lopsided trade or two will be our best chance to contend. I'm not in or not in favour of keeping Miller. Definitely have no illusions, that re-signing Miller is going to be pricey - lots of posted lots about that. But i also don't think it will matter as much as we think either. A GMs job is money and growing a team. Winning a cup in Canada is almost a con job at this point, next best thing - a team who gets to the playoffs with regularity - don't be shocked if this is the path they take. -
[Rumour] J.T. Miller Trade/Contract Talks
IBatch replied to Podzilla's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
If your talking about contending, 100% agree. We are for sure waiting regardless. Playoff reps matter, and doubt EP is ready to fill Millers role, his body that is. Still needs a few more years. Also i don't expect a big return for Miller. And know cap space matters. Canucks and most teams (except TB, quite literally all but them), have holes. Not as concerned about our right side ... Because that's going to have to be drafted. And we are 4-6 years away from seeing that. A lot can happen in that time, might as well work with what you have. Miller here or gone has pros and cons. This team isn't bad enough to re-set like COL unless we start with Demko. Think our path lies in playoffs reps and time. Best case is exactly that, the teams ready to contend when EP and QHs are in their primes. Horvat/ Millers age now and last year. His next deal will already be over. -
[Rumour] J.T. Miller Trade/Contract Talks
IBatch replied to Podzilla's topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
This is exactly where our expectations should be if Miller gets traded at the deadline. Claude Girouix. Likely we also retain salary. Pretty much every media talking head was saying the same thing last year heading into the trade deadline about Miller - to expect "a grade A prospect, a roster player and a pick"...the prize being the prospect of course and the lottery ticket, the roster player a ho-hum vet they don't want to keep that's maybe at most got one year left on his deal (who's purpose is to provide the cap space for Miller with retention, a player in the 2.5 range). Not suggesting Horvat goes, but he'd also get us the same haul. To me it makes a lot of sense to try and re-sign both at reasonable deals if possible, given QHs and Demko current deals is the best cap window we're doing to get with this group. Waiting 2-4 years for a maybe ... we could be waiting for just another rebuild instead. -
[Proposal] VAN signs UFA Motte
IBatch replied to BigTramFan's topic in Proposals and Armchair GM'ing
Call a spade a spade. I'm pretty patient with most posters, but your constant use of GM quotes and invalidation to kabosh virtually most posters ideas, and this time making such a big deal over such a small signing, just goes to show what lengths your willing to go to make sure whomever it is your making sure "knows they are wrong" ... it's annoying. And can't help but think it's deliberate at this point. So many moves happen in the NHL that are never expected. Maybe consider that next time you rush to check a GMs news or a teams cap space to kabosh any discussion. Your better then that too. Me i'm a wanker sometimes, but i'm willing to own it, and my bad lashing out. Of course i don't care if Motte comes backs lol. The point was pretty clear - i'd love to improve our PK and depth for cheap (league min, cap compliant) given our D is set and going to take time to improve. Adding to what we have already done (overpaying Ilya M possibly - to fix a need) and Lazar which is just fine. We lost our PKers in JBs cap payout, and it cost us. And even if i do love Motte - why does it matter? It doesn't. We are fans and that much i get - it's not always Spock level logic. I apologize if my response was over the top. But i have a hard time getting a read on your actual team. And do wonder if maybe this isn't it. SabresFan was great, he owned it. MIN is fine ... TO would be tough to own lol, but i'm sure there are some hiding on here too. It is the best fan forum in the NHL (most active), and others are welcome, but a pattern is a pattern. A little "good idea" now and then, would go a long way. Even better - a discussion about what you think not one laden with other things all about how it's not possible. JBs last cap clearing move seemed impossible at the time too, at the cost anyways, at the time. A lot of things don't follow the script each and every year. -
[Proposal] VAN signs UFA Motte
IBatch replied to BigTramFan's topic in Proposals and Armchair GM'ing
Lol. Like usually, right there to invalidate, with some form of idiotic quote pulled from the stratosphere. Where is your reading comprehension "loving to add depth to support our PK"...pick a different option - right back at it. Why don't you just admit your real team is MIN and your only on here to troll us Canuck fans. -
[Proposal] VAN signs UFA Motte
IBatch replied to BigTramFan's topic in Proposals and Armchair GM'ing
We are talking about a close to league min signing, and our PK without Motte, Sutter and even LE from a couple seasons ago, was simply bad. I'd prefer Sutter back if he could play but would bet money Motte could play a few more games then Mr Glass. And yes i'm aware they've spent big money on Ilya M to help the PK. And term with Lazar anchoring the fourth line. There is a reason why guys like Motte do get traded at the deadline ... personally i don't have any issue with adding to our depth of guys that can defend and takeaway pucks, energize and inspire. -
[Proposal] VAN signs UFA Motte
IBatch replied to BigTramFan's topic in Proposals and Armchair GM'ing
We can move on from one or two of those guys .. Motte is a warrior. Can't have too many guys like that if the post season is the goal. If we can't fix the D, we can double down on guys who keep it out of the net ... I'd do this deal no problem... -
The Hypocrisy in the Media and the Fanbase about the New Regime
IBatch replied to Dazzle's topic in Canucks Talk
So where is the Sundin in all of this then? Suppose we could offer Bergeron 30 million for 2 years...do you think Allvin would do that IF we had space? Irresponsible, especially given it was his client, had Sundin not retired i wonder how long MG would even had a job.