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  1. So best case Housley then?...never said anything about the same age, said like a 65 point Ghost or Keith the former is considered a top 100 NHLer all-time and a lock for first ballot HHOFer. Pretty sure he had close to 70 points one year too. So maybe we are saying the same thing...best case and full potential that is...
  2. Broad strokes - as far as the voting none of them were quite right I’m in between love this team and cautiously optimistic. I do think we will end up with around 95 points and that will be enough to squeak into the playoffs because the central will beat the crap out of each other and split points and we won’t have as a hard time getting some points in our own division anymore. It wouldn’t surprise me if we got over 100 points under the current 3x3 OT system either, good for around 85-90 under the old system. I do love the additions to the team. And our new depth. Benning has done a lot this summer, this will be a new look team, once we get firing on all cylinders we won’t be an easy two points at all. Grade B.
  3. There’s no doubting that TO has a team that COULD have done some damage last year if Kadri didn’t do what he did and get suspended the remainder of the first round, if he played it would have been enough to beat Boston and they went to the final so you never know. Thing is that was likely their best chance at a cup, they’ve added Barrie basically as a rental for the season and the playoffs and Reilly is undoubtedly a stud ... but is it enough?. Maybe they do well, maybe they don’t, most teams would love to have that forward lineup but the cost just doesn’t add up and they have too many holes otherwise. Id rather have our team with our cap spread more evenly throughout, support players matter and win cups, as does good-great defense and strong goaltending. They are not the EDM Oilers of old and can’t score their way to a cup, but it sure looks like that’s their intent. For a math/cap genius guru Dubas has done a very very poor job with his star RFAs. Rather have Kadri then Nylander anyday even at the same cap hit, and AM doesn’t deserve the UFA contract he got either. He’s not one of the top three guys in the league, and isn’t even a top five center (yet, they are paying him to be one though). And he could become the one of the most coveted UFA ever in his early prime ... and be ARI bound. We don’t really know what will happen but my money is that our window will be longer and we will have more chances (playoff appearances) in the next seven years. If they screw up Marners contract too Dubas should be fired.
  4. Yep. If I had to make a prediction it would be he plays 70 games and gets around .7 PPG. If he gets over 40 points I would be stoked, and we’d have another Calder candidate. Makar will also be similar but outscore him given the team infront of him.
  5. Personally I think it won’t take long for Myers to be a fan favourite. He will score goals, clear the net and crunch guys AND we finally have a decent weapon on the PP. 30 points 5 x 5 was more then Weber was getting most years when he was scoring 20 goals, half his points were on the PP. Wouldn’t surprise me at all if he’s the best scoring D we have the next couple of years, neither would it if Hughes gets 50 plus. Edler will probably lose his spot on the number one PP at some time, but Myers will be there probably form the get go, not unreasonable to see him get 10-15 goals and 20 plus points ... add that to the 25-30 he usually gets 5 x 5 and that’s a good amount of production. Just because he was buried on WNPs depth chart doesn’t mean he doesn’t have it, I’m with Burke on this one, we will have him when he peaks and has his best years.
  6. Understandable. I can look past the checking and clearing the net, pinning guys to the boards, blocking pucks aspects if QH can score goals too. It’s too early to tell how things will evolve, durability also matters (not that big guys can’t be brittle too), but it wouldn’t surprise me if Myers or even Edler are still the closest thing we have to a number one in two years. Worst case he’s moved to the forward line and we’ve got a killer first line. Best case he’s like Ghost was two years ago or a Duncan Keith type.
  7. Dubas caved with his star RFAs both of them, big flunk, then squeezed his good ones on bridge deals to compensate. And now is over a table with Marner, big flunk especially since he’s supposed to be a numbers guy, and had to trade a first and Kadri (on a great cap hit) to get some money - Barrie won’t stay and is a bandaid for sure because, well they also couldn’t afford Gardiner who’s their version of Edler. Until he does something good JB all the way, he’s made some decent moves (Zaitsev), but inherited his team - that’s Lou and his predecessors.
  8. Absolutely. If you don’t have cap issues your not trying hard enough GMs say. Look what SJ just went through/going through, Vegas and TO. They have/had serious headaches and lost good players this summer to try and keep under and TO isn’t done yet with Marner. Van is a cap team (no thanks to Luongo and LE) but we won’t lose anyone of consequence, where as these teams lost good - Horvat quality guys to keep themselves under while trying to stay competitive. We lose a Schaller and we are fine, or put him and one other guy on waivers and to the minors. That’s before Rousell is back. Benning isn’t at all worried and neither should we. Our real cap issues come after two seasons, then we likely will see a bit more pain and will have to pass on next tier guy(s) to squeeze under and then one more year things are fine and we can add - that’s when the best version of this team will be competing for division titles and long playoff runs. Doubt JB or anyone else taking his place won’t see that and screw that up later.
  9. Agreed, the only thing that’s worrisome about Bear is concussions - and that means he goes on long term and he cap relief (worse case too). I wouldn’t say he’s no longer part of our plans as he offers depth and still some interesting upside (he’s not the best version of himself yet) and should either add some scoring touch to the third line or top six depending on what chart(s) TG goes with - at the same time he’s low hanging fruit for a trade to a team looking for extra depth in the middle six too....which is why we should play him until a teams comfortable enough to take the risk given his history at the very least, if not just let him stay and be a regular contributor. The days of trying to squeeze lemonade out of lemons are over and he was one small bright light during that time, who knows what will happen but either way he will help the team somehow.
  10. Camp and pre-season will be fun this year. Will be interesting to see how some of our prospects do during that period, who gets cut, who stays etc.
  11. Schaller is a no brainer, there’s one million and even if he’s it and we get penalized for going over the cap it means we have a shortened bench by one game/one guy - a regular occurrence anyways given how many games the teams had to play with a guy going down in the first period over the last five years - ha ha, then Roussell goes on long term and Benning has a few months to show case players to get a trade done - maybe even Bear. I hate buyouts, all it does is cripple our cap over twice the period. That said sometimes I can see it’s needed - just don’t think this is one of them.
  12. Went with OJ partially because i want to throw him some shade after many belly aching posts I’ve made about him, and the rest because he’s harder to replace. Demko is deserving too given he’s in the show now, but I believe when OJs 24 he could have a bigger impact. Don’t think Podz has done enough to prove he’s with these guys yet but get the selection too.
  13. Don’t worry Kilgore, I’m sure they are on their way back North and going to be land all over BC and even some outcasts like myself across the globe and come back with a vengeance soon. Maybe even his Spring.
  14. Bettman after the GMs unanimously vote for expansion into Europe. Or Bettman the moment he realizes Vancouver’s going to win a cup over, your guessed it, the NYR whom they’ve been pumping tires since they started to roll again. Messiers in town and his plans to celebrate their 30th year since winnning crumbles. He gets hounded and chased by a mob. Linden takes Bettmans place (because he’s still having a seizure) and hands the cup to Horvat. Plan the parade.
  15. Both game 7’s against Calgary are legendary but “the Save” followed by Bures goal was something else and made up for 89. Calgary was a great team still, it made the next two series seem easy in comparison. Great post!
  16. Remember the butterflies before the game started in 94, by then it was starting to look like destiny, after the game I was pretty certain we were going to win game seven, felt like we had them on the ropes. What a game.
  17. A regular season game in 93-94 against NYR, think it was in the late winter but might be making that up, and things got really rough. They were the best team in the league by then (after a slowish start) first in PP/PK but we were hanging with them and Keenan iced his goons to rough up our better players and pandemonium started on the bench with Quin screaming at Keenan. Odjick was trying to spear their players from our bench and almost succeeded...it was awesome. I remember the announcers saying boy wouldn’t it be a treat if these two teams met in the playoffs...took me a few seconds to realize that would have to be in the final ... talk about precognition it something. We weren’t even necessarily going to make them at that point (but should have and we did of course). Don’t even remember the score or much about the game other then that. And that the announcers said Keenan better be careful because of how big and strong Quin was and that he was “liable to end up in the rafters “.
  18. Nailed it. Guess they want that but on the third line. Yep. Maybe even when he’s 34. There’s not a team in the league that wouldn’t want him, he drives the bus completely on the second line, and for long periods he was making up for no Sutter and even EP for a bit. Outside of Boeser he’s never played with decent players ... and beat the Sedins out as our top line C when they were almost done too...looked it up a while ago but from a pure production standpoint he was close to first like last year AND was playing with 3-5th (AHLers on deeper teams) liners...I’d bet he’d be top twenty if he had average first liners to play with, making him an above average one all things being equal now as he’s in his early prime. He’s better every year, next year it wouldn’t shock me if he’s a 70 point second liner, making him one of the best in the NHL.
  19. Not to be mean or anything but some of the people that don’t have skin in the game have OJ and JV as two of the top 25 biggest busts the past ten years. Smokes isn’t really saying he’s a bust yet, just that the clock is ticking and I have to agree. The list is for first rounders only and I believe should be taken with a grain of salt. OJ was right around where he was drafted and JV in the teens.. This is his year to sink or swim. Is he the next Pouilet or the next Vlasic? Anything in between would be fine, I’ve adjusted expectations...Hopefully he’s like Rocket Richard and is just starting his career with injury issues and it won’t de-rail things. So far he’s not close to his draft slot OR where most experts had him going as far as BPA, and neither is Puljajarvi which to me is a mix of bad luck, possibly poor scouting and the WJ’s doing what often do which is bumping guys that maybe shouldn’t after a good showing. It’s not like he lit the lamp in London with or without their stacked team. MT getting 77 points mostly as a second liner is hard to take ... but then again maybe we wouldn’t have EP and definitely not Hughes if we drafted MT instead. Don’t think he was Vancouver’s first choice, that was PLD but it all worked out in the end. OJ becoming a 82 game per year stud at this point would be a huge boon for us, but it won’t be this year. The following one maybe.
  20. Great point. Really there are tons of guys within 100 days of each other each given draft year, if Alex was in this draft class wonder where he’d have gone? Not first but pretty close to it given the hype..BUT he wouldn’t be filling the net either if he was in Podz shoes, or at least not nearly as much.
  21. Podz does have a slim chance of not making the NHL, I’d agree with that, he’s going to be very hard to play against too. Needs work on his offensive game, if that develops then yep first line Forsbergish type would be his ceiling. OJ was pretty good offensively in Utica but his defensive game was pretty warty, it sucks he couldn’t play more games last year as my guy tells me he would have figured it out just like he did the previous year and maybe played some games in the NHL near the end of the season. Hope he’s strong and can stay healthy this year...this is a pattern that could de-rail his career before its even started if continued. Still hoping he works out of course, the team could really use him as Edlers eventual replacement. Of the three guys (OJ, Podz, OJ) went with Demko, he’s shown that he belongs and looks to have to chops to become a starter....that’s a pretty limited market he’d be part of.
  22. Voted Podz because I considered Demko a slam dunk NHLer, then saw the comments about being Calder eligible...now I’m pretty sure I’d change my vote to a better known commodity in Demko. Hard to know for sure who’s going to be the better NHLer, if OJ reaches his full potential it just as easily could be him.
  23. Spoiler alert BORING. That said thanks for sharing good information here. Still doesn’t help us get rid of LEs cap space though.
  24. I’m with Spook and others on this one, TG has options for the first time since he arrived and can move guys around until the right fit presents itself. Doesn’t make sense to not start with Pearson on Horvats wing to start, other then they there is no wrong choices. I suspect Ferland will get some time on EPs wing just to make a statement to the rest of the league, Miller would be nice on either line too. And stoked that Horvat will get some decent options again.
  25. Should have wrote them a letter ha ha to get tickets. One gem was when Scott Parker first arrived and Brashear was bullying COL regular tough guy (can’t remember his name but can picture him clearly he always had a bandaid across the bridge of his twisted nose) and Chris McAllister won a clear decision over Parker at the same time ... we got to see them both get trashed at the same time, Brashear beat the tar out of bandaid face. Keenan might have been the worst time ever but he always iced a tough team ... when we added Ciccone I was stoked as heard great things about him in TB..like he was the next Tinordi/Tochett type ... when I saw him play it was underwhelming to say the least but was glad I saw him play.
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