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Everything posted by Borvat
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They compared him to the Sedins' I didn't. I agree different roles and abilities is correct.
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Daniel Sedin - 20 years old - First 75 games / 20 goals / 14 assists / 34 points / -3 Henrik Sedin - 20 years old - First 82 games / 9 goals / 20 assists / 29 points / -2 Brendan Gaunce - 22 / 23 years old - First 98 games / 2 goals / 6 assists / 8 points / -12 Chris Tanev - 22 / 23 years old - First 92 games / 2 goals / 8 assists / 10 points / +14 Not one of Gaunces 2 goals were scored from his stick in fact he didn't even know where the puck was. Come on guys please. Is he defensively responsible yes, but let's keep it somewhat realistic, Maybe he's more Chris Tanev than Sedin. I actually think he would make a good defenceman. Except not while playing forward. Differing opinions is all. Merry Christmas!
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I like the Danish especially with the coffee or the tea. You dunk em in there and then you Finnish em off. You should be Russian out and tryin' one. Seriously, Czech one out. They taste Swede.
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94 games / 1 goal / 7 points / -13 / will be 24 years old by the end of the season. Looks slow on the ice (I have seen him live many times) and in my opinion would not be playing if the Canucks had enough "legitimate NHL" forward depth to replace him. Is he like a 3rd (shutdown) defenceman when on the ice - yes. Thus all the defensive zone / situational starts. I guess if your argument is that he is like a defenceman taking the spot of a forward for defensive zone responsibilities, okay. But until he actually provides some consistent evidence of offense in his game the logic of those who say "oh it will come and when it does just look out, you'll see goals will come in bunches" is not based on anything other than hopes. Nothing to this point has even come close to supporting those hopes at the NHL level. I just have higher hopes for this team than Gaunce scoring a goal or two. PS: I think he's a wonderful guy and I had high hopes for him. If he proves me wrong, I will be happy for him and the Canucks.
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I would love to see Pettersson - Horvat - Boeser
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Except for the amount of board play (cycling / protecting the puck) there will be in the NHL vs the SHL. Less ice means more board play and puck protection will result. I have no doubt EP has the skills. He will need to learn how to play along the boards and deal with tighter checking and more contact.
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I am fine with a one year deal as long as they continue to be productive and are not taking a roster spot from a younger player in the system who is ready and deserving. At this point if they come back I can't see offering them more than $3 - $4 million each per year. They are excellent mentors and examples and could benefit Elias' transition to the NHL. At those salaries there will still be cap space available to add a top defenseman or top forward. Vanek will be gone and Dorsett is off the books. If they want more and can find another team to pay them both more, maybe it is time to move on. Maybe they can win a cup somewhere, I would be happy for them as long as it wasn't against the Cancucks.
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There is definitely very little physicality in this league. He will have to adjust to that for sure. Like early in the Sedin's career he will get hit. The difference may be Elias' skating which should help him avoid the big ones, except for the board play which he wil have to learn. Not much board play or cycling in this league. I see him getting knocked down alot as it will be the best way to defend against him.
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Team first guy. Showed up every night/shift. Never bitched or complained - no drama. Worked hard for everything and appreciated his opportunity. Respected the game and always had his teammates backs. Steps away when life and family matter more than money. This is what I love about hockey and the NHL as a professional sports league in particular (not as much recently I must admit) He epitomizes a "character guy" All the best Derek.
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I have great respect for Daniel and Henrik as players and human beings. But please no, it's time to move forward after this year. The game pace has passed them by especially now that they have lost the magic that made up for their skating.
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Linden Vey was more productive. Gaunce doesn't utilize his size. Gaunce has no offensive upside to his game at the NHL level and is always one step behind the play. It's time to move on and give someone else a chance.
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I totally agree and wish they would have had him kill penalties in Utica last year just like they are now with Goldobin. I can't understand why they didn't. His defensive game can't be any worse than Goldobin's and it would have given Virt another tool in the tool box. His speed alone would put fear into opponents on the kill - turnover and gone ala Kesler and Burrows. This one is a head scratcher for me.
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I don't believe this, but there is always the possibility of a potential trade in the works. The new team would be the one to ink him to a new deal. Not what I would want, depending on the return. Maybe this is one of the reasons Gagner was signed for 3 years. Although, the Gagner signing was more likely to bridge until Pettersson is ready. Pure speculation ......... but possible. I wonder what he is worth to other teams. Likely not as much as he is worth to the Canucks at this point. I need hockey soon.
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I compared his production and yes it is pathetic. That is my point. I want Gaunce to succeed. If he's the best option great. If not I am more in favor of the Canucks doing the right thing for him and the team. You projecting 25 - 30 points based on his body of work is how realistic? He isn't 19 he is 23 and will be 24 before the season ends.
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Haha and you know he will be the best option based on how much he showed last year and camp hasn't even started yet. Lottery numbers I am heading to the store lmao. Perfect.
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Camp hasn't started yet. Depends if there are PTO's, potential FA's, Chaput, Labate, Burmistrov, McEwen, who knows. My real point is and was what is best for Gaunce and the Canucks. I for one would like to see a little more aggression and push back from that 4th line including the Center. Dorsett could use some help.
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I don't disagree, he has potential. But I think he will be better served playing more important minutes at the AHL level to help him reach his potential. I haven't undervalued him, his current value isn't that high, maybe his potential is. I think by projecting point totals that he hasn't even shown are achievebale at the NHL level you have over valued him. I think some time to find his offensive touch with more responsibility wouldn't be a bad thing. Plus I am not that certain he will be the Canucks best option out of camp.
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Derek Dorsett scores 4 points in 14 games last year. Alex Biega has 11 points in 94 NHL games. Brendan Gaunce has 6 points in 77 NHL games. Not seeing a positive in even keeping him at the NHL level. He is the poster boy for not "earning" his spot. He doesn't offer any proven intangibles, just potential like so many others. I just don't see why he should be gifted anything. Send him to the AHL, I honestly think if he is going to find his game it will be there. I think it is actually in his best interest to find his "niche" if he can in the AHL, for his long term success in the NHL. There are players that are better options for the Canucks.
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Oh you mean Kermit the frog with a head cold who must always be the center of attention and is never ever incorrect - that guy. I nominate him as the most annoying and arrogant radio talk show host. Every time I hear his voice I want to punch my radio. Hey Matt, it's called negotiating in good faith, why would they ever tell a blowhard like you anything. Oh yes, so you can try and make yourself seem important.
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I hope he feels the same way. I think that has been the issue.
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It has "become" rare and hardly ever seen. They can't keep up the pace and teams have figured out their cycle game. It's not hard to do, just don't chase them and get out of position. Or get physical with them, knock them down and take the puck. For one thing if I am a teammate I would respect their ability to put the team above what they are comfortable with. Also, when they are both on the ice together and the puck is turned over, especially in the neutral zone, they don't have the speed to get on the back check and it frequently ends up in an odd man rush the other way. Would it hurt to try putting them out on different lines? If it doesn't work go back to the original.
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And he's working with the Sami "ball to the wall" Salo. I would be pleased as punch if he ended up even better than Salo in his prime, he is one of my personal all time favorite Canuck players. Drafted in the 9th round back in the day. I imagine he may end up at Salo's prime playing size of 6'3 215lbs. I miss Sami. Apparently Juolevi's goal song is - When the Levee Breaks by Zeppelin. I just made that up, I love that song.
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It's a great first step for sure. But being in decent shape when you are a young professional athlete trying to start your career that can pay millions of dollars isn't something I would give him much credit for. It's pretty basic. Showing up 20+ pounds over weight and out of shape isn't a good thing. If he can prove he's learned his lesson and is committed to his craft I will be totally on the Jake train. Like I said I'm pulling for the young man.
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I agree with your analysis, but the real issue at this point is can Jake be committed enough to reach his potential. That has been my question (and others) from the beginning as I live in Abbotsford and have followed him from his high school days. Hockey came easy for him. Now that he is being challenged to put in the effort, will he step up? I hope he does for his sake.
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I get the "line" mix approach - skill/size etc, but in the playoffs it's more one on one as teams will focus in on weakness. Your top players need to be able to play through the grind. If our top line is Dahlen and Pettersen and ? I must admit I am a little concerned. Again, time will tell and I hope my concerns are just that. But after watching the Penguins and Nashville go at it........ Crosby doesn't back down or shy away. Neither do Toews or Kopitar. You could see McDavid was surprised with how even the stars get treated when the real season starts. He kept looking at the Ref's and they kept letting 'em play. He will need to learn to suck it up and play through it.