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NHL Play-In Predictions! (Cast your vote)
mll replied to Rush17's topic in General Hockey Discussion
Friedman in his 31 thoughts: 5. Nothing is certain, but I do think there’s a decent chance re-seeding becomes the playoff setup as opposed to bracketing. -
Gusev signed his ELC - ie his 1st ever NHL contract. Tolvanen also signed at the end of the season with Nashville coming from the KHL. Gusev and Tolvanen were on new ELCs like Boeser, Makar, Hughes. Tryamkin is a RFA and will sign his 2nd NHL contract. They are not in the same category of players. New ELCs have always been allowed to sign but this year the league does not want to authorise it. That's what they are talking about in media because it's a change from previous years and the NHLPA is fighting it. Tryamkin is trying to sign his 2nd contract. He is a RFA and not a new ELC player.
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Justin Williams was a UFA and was not on any teams reserve list. He could have signed with any team. UFAs can be signed up to the TDL to participate in the playoffs. Nashville did that with Mike Fisher. There are several different category of players and each are treated differently. Tryamkin is a group 2 RFA and that category of player cannot play if they are not signed by 1 December. Current media is talking about new ELC players like Romanov, Scott Perunovich, Ian Mitchell, Rathbone etc. Tryamkin does not fall in that category of players. Boeser and Hughes signed once their season was over - Canucks did not make the playoffs that year. Makar signed during the playoffs. Dreger talks of entry level players - ie new ELCs.
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Benning talks of signing him for next year. He can't sign this year. He's a RFA and had to be signed by 1 December to be allowed to play this season. Even his agent isn't talking of him signing this season but next. https://www.tsn.ca/agent-vancouver-canucks-nikita-tryamkin-in-communication-1.1462602 Diamond added, however, that the two sides will likely have to wait to reach a deal until the fate of the current season is decided and next year's salary cap is set. “Things are obviously stuck because of the uncertainty of the near future and what affect it’s going to have on the numbers,” Diamond said. “We have to see what the cap is going to look like and if we can march this thing forward, or if we can’t.”
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This article is from a couple of years ago by Daniel Wagner from Pass It To Bullis but is possibly worth another read. Brackett talks of how scouting / drafting is a collaborative effort and provides some insight on their process. He credits different scouts for finding Pettersson/Boeser and talks of what they saw in Gaudette, DiPietro. https://www.vancourier.com/pass-it-to-bulis/for-the-canucks-judd-brackett-scouting-and-drafting-are-a-collaborative-effort-1.23144857
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For the NHL he was a RFA. The reserve list includes the players whose rights the team owns - RFAs as well as prospects who have yet to sign an ELC. Puljujarvi was a signed player in Liiga on the Oilers reserve list. He too is a RFA and had to be signed by 1 December had he wished to play this season.
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Tryamkin is on the reserve list as group 2 RFA. He has already played on his ELC and will not be signing an ELC but a normal contract. The reserve list if for all players whose rights belong to the Canucks but who are not under contract. It's RFAs as well as prospects who have yet to sign their first contract. As a group 2 RFA he cannot sign or play this season. From the CBA: 11.4 Signing Deadline for Group 2 Free Agent. An SPC for a Group 2 Free Agent will be rejected and will be null and void ab initio (i.e., the Player's Free Agency and contractual status shall revert to the status he held prior to signing his SPC), if it is not signed and filed with Central Registry by 5:00 p.m. New York time on December 1 in the then current NHL Season.
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Not the same situations. RFAs have to be signed by 1 December to be allowed to play. Makar was a 1st time ELC. Those players were allowed to sign in the past. The league does not want to allow it this season. The NHLPA is fghting the league against that decision. It affects Romanov, Sorokin, Rathbone for the Canucks but not Tryamkin. Radulov was under contract - he was still on his ELC when he left for the KHL and returned for the playoffs on his ELC. It was not a new contract.
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I don't see it either. It wouldn't surprise me if the cap stays flat but that some owners ask their GMs to operate below the cap to be closer to revenue - ie set an internal cap. They could decide to scale back and wait for better times before spending back at the cap. There is going to be so much uncertainty around revenue and not all owners might be willing to spend (they might also not have the funds). It depends how affected their businesses have been. Some teams have furloughed employees, others have cut back salary and some have even fired employees. The revenue situation could put more good players on the market which will make it even more challenging to move bad contracts.
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He is a RFA and RFAs had to be signed by 1 December to be allowed to play for the season. What you heard on the radio is about 1st time ELCs - KHL, NCAA etc.. Those players were always allowed to sign in the past (RFAs never were) once their season was over. Boeser, Hughes, Makar, Gusev and Tolvanen from the KHL all did. This year the league doesn't want to allow those new ELCs to sign this season. Tryamkin is not in that category of players. He has already played on his ELC.
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Benning was recently talking of getting a 2nd round pick back at the draft - he says they have too many bodies and have to make some trades.
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He can't sign for this season. His contract can only start next year.
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They would for sure need NHLPA approval. It would likely have to be part of the CBA. Players are affected because of the split in revenue. With revenue being lower than 50% of players' salaries/buyouts etc they have to give money back. Adding a player that doesn't count against the cap puts them even further away from 50% of revenue. It increases what they owe back to the league. I doubt the league would want that. It favours rich teams that have the cash to exceed the cap. Revenue is going to be significantly lower than the cap already.
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A few weeks back Friedman was saying in his 31 thoughts that more and more executives are saying that owners are against it because they don't want the extra cost. Owners are losing enough money already. Even the Canucks have cut staff salary back. Also buyouts count towards escrow so allowing compliance buyouts would have players giving even more salary back.
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Doesn't change anything. He was still a RFA and he is not allowed to play this season.
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Tryamkin is a group 2 RFA. He had to be signed by 1 December to be allowed to play. 11.4 Signing Deadline for Group 2 Free Agent. An SPC for a Group 2 Free Agent will be rejected and will be null and void ab initio (i.e., the Player's Free Agency and contractual status shall revert to the status he held prior to signing his SPC), if it is not signed and filed with Central Registry by 5:00 p.m. New York time on December 1 in the then current NHL Season. Canucks retain Tryamkin's rights until he turns 27 but they can only sign him to a contract that starts next season. Rathbone is an unsigned prospect in the NCAA and will apparently become a UFA in August 2021 per Thomas Drance - he is one of those NCAA exceptions that can reach UFA one year earlier. In the past players on the reserve list signing new ELCs were able to sign once their season was over and play, like Boeser, Makar, Hughes did. This year the league does not want to allow it.
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LTIR doesn't create cap space. It's cap limitation more than anything else - it creates bonus overages that then count against next season's cap and limits who teams can recall. Teams using LTIR can hardly ever build a healthy roster up to the cap. For the Canucks without LTIR for Ferland they would have been forced to operate at 78M rather than have a healthy roster of up to 81.5M like any other team. It's even actually less because performance bonuses of recalled players have to be accounted for and fit under the cap - eg a Juolevi recall early this year would have been a 2.3M cap hit vs only 863K when not using LTIR. With Dorsett same - they had to use LTIR to be able to have a healthy roster up to the cap. Injured players count against the cap. LTIR is a mechanism that allows to exceed the cap up to their cap hit so that teams aren't overly penalised for having a player that can't play. Their active roster + short term injuries where players are only on IR, is still under the cap. LTIR does not create cap space. It's actually complicated to get full relief. That's why the Canucks made several paper transactions this season and the season where Dorsett was on LTIR. GMs would apparently like to just remove the LTIR cap from counting to simplify and allow teams to more easily get full relief. If Ferland can't play and the Canucks don't use LTIR they will have an active roster of 78M at most as his 3.5M cap hit is included in the cap calculation. LTIR allows them to exceed the cap up to his cap hit of 3.5M, but only up to the portion they need for their active roster to remain cap compliant. Canucks can operate up to 84M but his 3.5M is the only portion that can exceed the max cap of 81.5M. There's no cap space created. That's why there are bonus overages - teams can't bank cap space so the bonuses carry over to next season.
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That's why the rule doesn't apply to him. He is a RFA and RFAs had to be signed by 1 December - allowing him to play would be making an exception. Boeser, Hughes, Makar were allowed to sign in the past as new ELC players and finish the season with their teams. They aren't allowing it this year. The Canucks can't sign Rathbone even if he wanted to. If they are being more restrictive than in the past, it is highly unlikely that they will change a rule already in place to make an exception for a RFA who is not allowed to join in the 1st place.
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Don't see many players participating in phase 2. Their protocol is just so restrictive. Cities are opening up and ice rinks are starting to be available. Players are more likely going to make their own arrangements and train with less limitations. Per Russo most players from Europe aren't coming back for phase 2, at least not on the Wild. Doubt it will be any different for other teams as their countries are either already open like in Sweden or opening up. Gaudette has found a rink with gym in NJ and has already been on the ice for several weeks. Returning to Vancouver to join phase 2 would have him forced to quarantine for 2 weeks. Boeser told Russo he drove to South Dakota last week with some friend to attend a pro-training camp. He'll start skating next week with a several NHLers in a suburban rink. Minnesota has plenty of NHLers - it's the state with the most. Most train and play together in the Beauty League over the summer. Would think that they'll make arrangements like they've always done in the summer and just skip using the Wild's facilities. According to Russo Flyers' JvR has so far been the only player asking to use the Wild's facility. Not sure how accessible St Paul is either given the riots. Minnesota were heavy favourites to be a hub city - probably not the case anymore.
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Canucks can't add Tryamkin. In the past they could have added Rathbone - this option for now is not available. He will apparently become a UFA in August 2021 - per Thomas Drance he's one of those exceptions where he can reach UFA a year earlier. Boeser, Makar, Hughes were allowed to sign in the past but the league changed the rules this year - who to say they don't enforce it over the longer run. It puts teams more at risk of not being able to get their NCAA players under contract and lose them to UFA.
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Ottawa is not going to have trouble hitting the floor. Chabot is starting an 8M deal. They have plenty of RFAs to re-sign and are just 18M away from it with only 10 contracts on their books. 13 players to add and only 18M to the floor. In a year when they have other RFAs to sign Eriksson will still be on their books. Can't see them wanting to be in the situation where they can't sign a prospect because they have Eriksson.
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A trade for Demko alone maybe but tagged to Eriksson don't see it. Nielsen, Abdelkader are still on their books so unless the Canucks take one back there's no real benefit to bring in Demko at the cost of tying them down with another slowed down veteran. Demko is a young goalie. His numbers aren't great. It could limit his development to play behind such a bad team. I think he's more likely to find a veteran goalie to replace Howard until their team has improved - also buys time for their goalie prospects to continue to develop. Several teams are going to have to move good players to create cap space. I could see him more approaching teams with cap issues and getting a good player in return rather than take on cap dumps for players who don't help their team take a step into contender status. With the Canucks desperately needing cap space - the cost to create it is a fair bit higher. Teams know that Benning wants to sign Toffoli, Markstrom etc. Some teams are probably hoping these guys don't re-sign and get to UFA instead. Because the Canucks need cap space it's going to cost more to trade their bad contracts.
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That could be too but what's the hype of bringing in Eriksson - how is that going to help their ticket sales. I don't think a washed up vet is someone that Ottawa is going to want. Also Eriksson will still be under contract when they'll have prospects like Tkachuk in need of new deals. With the uncertainty of the salary cap this could limit them. I see them more trying to target good players and get them for a song as teams will have to create cap space.
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Doesn't matter if he is high. It's about their mindset when they are constructing their roster. They won't want Eriksson given that they think they can be competitive next season already.