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Sven to Scout in Europe (Proposal)
mll replied to J.I.A.H.N's topic in Proposals and Armchair GM'ing
He more likely believes the Canucks can trade him. No reason for him to give up guaranteed money. At the TDL Benning talked about how they'd be more opportunities to trade him at the draft. The Canucks could end up buying him out. That scouting contract at that salary is cap circumvention. It puts the Canucks at risk of a fine and/or losing draft picks and maybe even a cap penalty. The NHLPA/league wouldn't allow a team to pressure a player to give up his contract. -
Didn't think you were. This 2nd article confirms that it makes no sense for the Leafs to add LTIR contracts now that they can avoid LTIR. They added Clarkson simply to be able to build an active roster of close to 81.5M like any other team. Now that both Horton and Clarkson are off the books - they can operate normally and avoid the nuisance of LTIR. Injured players count against the salary cap but LTIR allows teams to exceed the salary cap up to their salaries. IE it's a mechanism to allow to try and eliminate their cap hit from counting against the active roster (as they are inactive). Teams have to do some roster manoeuvring to get the full relief. Their cap hit is not simply removed. Without Clarkson the Leafs wouldn't have been able to build an active roster of 81.5M but only of circa 78M per that 2nd article (see extract below). The portion that exceeds 81.5M is only LTIR money - it's not active players. Active players are still under the 81.5M cap. From that article: “Depending on your projection of the opening day roster prior to the trade, the Leafs had roughly $9.5m to sign Mitch Marner. The problem was that if Marner wasn’t signed by Oct. 2, the Leafs would have no way to manoeuvre any closer to the cap than ~$3.5m, meaning they could not properly utilize LTIR and get full relief for Horton. This undercut the Leafs’ leverage, as they had to get a deal done by the end of training camp.” ----- GMs would apparently like for the league to reconsider the LTIR mechanism. They suggest to simply remove the cap hit of LTIR players. It would simplify the whole process and not penalise teams who have LTIR players from operating up to the salary cap. It would have made the Leafs life so much easier and they wouldn't have had to add Clarkson to be able to reach 81.5M in active players.
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I read the article before I responded the 1st time already. It doesn't make sense for next season now that Horton is off the books as well as Clarkson. Last year Toronto didn't have a choice but to use LTIR as they couldn't trade the Horton contract as it wasn't insured. If they start the season with a healthy roster there's no reason for them to add LTIR contracts. There is no cap benefit to use LTIR when you don't have to. It just limits flexibility and creates bonus overages. It doesn't create more cap space. Friedman in his last 31 thoughts writes: 4. I’m also not sure the Maple Leafs are too eager to flirt with LTIR once again. They knew they were starting last year without Travis Dermott and Zach Hyman. It wasn’t an easy dance for them — or Vegas — last season.
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I doubt the Leafs are looking to add LTIR contracts. LTIR limits a team's flexibility. Just look at the Canucks with Ferland on LTIR. Ever since Ferland went on LTIR the Canucks end of season cap space has been stuck at 30'474.- They are going to have a bonus overage of some 1.7M as they haven't been able to bank cap space. Both Horton and Clarkson are off their books at the end of the season. There's no reason for the Leafs to add LTIR contracts now that they are finally rid of those contracts, unless they have another player on LTIR. Last year Toronto had to add Clarkson because they already had Horton and they were adding Marner's contract. If they hadn't added Clarkson they wouldn't have been able to build an active roster of 81.5M and would have been forced to operate at an active cap of only 76.5M. Next season without Horton and Clarkson on their books they can operate right up to the cap like any other team and can avoid using LTIR. LTIR doesn't create cap space - rather it limits the handicap of having an injured player counting against the cap. By using LTIR for Ferland the Canucks were allowed to build an active roster of up to 81.5M like any other team, rather than be forced to have an active roster of only 78M.
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Columbus is apparently the other city in consideration for the other hub per Chris Johnston. The Athletic counted 5 sheets of ice to practice - they did an evaluation of the potential hubs several weeks ago. City National Arena, their practice facility, has 2 sheets of ice. There's 2 sheets at Las Vegas Ice Center and another one at Sobe arena. Steve Carp who covers Vegas lists 2 more options.
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He could still be picked by Seattle and they'll just qualify him themselves. Every player that is not protected or exempt is exposed and available to be picked by Seattle. Canucks would need to find another goalie to meet their minimum exposure requirements. Having at least 1 goalie qualified or under contract is a requirement for exposure. Teams can't just leave UFA goalies or goalies who have not been qualified exposed. At least 1 goalie exposed has to be under team control.
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In previous years teams who missed the playoffs couldn't get those players under contract and burn a year either unless their season finished sufficiently early. Makar started in the playoffs. Often it's not about playoff help but rather to get the players under contract. How many NCAA players will be UFA this year (- not sure if the 15 August date still applies). Being able to offer to burn a year could help some teams retain those players. Benning apparently would like Rathbone to turn pro but he can't offer to burn a year. Who knows if the league won't end up keeping that rule beyond just this season.
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They told Guerin there is likely zero chance that they will allow it. Not yet 100% but sounds pretty close to a no. It's not linked to a league agreement. Trouba and Nylander were also going to be prevented to play had they failed to sign by 1 December although they were not signed with any other league.
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That was the explanation given by the league to Russo. It might also be the league not wanting to add a dozen players or so amid a pandemic (- that was Russo's estimate of players that teams would like to sign for this season to get them in the fold). Canucks signed 4 such players last year - Hughes, Rafferty, Kielly, Teves were all able to burn a year of their ELC. It's an incentive to sign. Surprised by the decision given that teams are going to have to bring up additional players in any case - the AHL is cancelled and teams also typically have the so-called black aces/taxi squad for the playoffs. Not sure why they couldn't be new ELC players given that it was allowed in the past.
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Apparently that has changed - see TVA below. The US will likely allow the same rules as they want sports back. The league is likely already in contact with the relevant authorities - they have to organise bringing back players from Europe. They also have to extend the work visas so that they can continue to play. They would only cross the border for the next round. Maybe even only after the 2nd round if they put a conference in one country and the other conference in another. Once they are down to 4 teams they could play the final 2 rounds in one hub to reduce travel even more.
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RFAs have to be under an NHL contract by 1 December to be allowed to play. It's the same situation as with Puljujarvi, Honka - they are not allowed to play this season. Nylander got really close to not be authorised to play the season ago. Past seasons players on the reserve list and signing an ELC (ie a 1st time contract and not RFAs like Tryamkin) could be added to the roster - Boeser, Hughes, Makar for example. This season the league doesn't even want to allow those players to join. So it's doubtful that the league would now allow RFAs like Tryamkin to have an exception to the CBA 1 December signing rule.
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Next season all the dates are going to be adjusted. Deadline for RFAs to be allowed to play the season won't be 1 December but later - it's about 2 months into the season and past that date RFAs can't play for the remainder of the season. It shouldn't affect Tryamkin next season. If the Canucks plan to sign him they'll get him under contract so he can start next season on time. He simply can't play this season as that deadline to be allowed to play was 1 December 2019.
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He is a RFA and RFAs had to be signed by 1 December to be allowed to play. Doubt the league is willing to change their RFA rules for this season. They don't even want to allow new ELCs to start this season. Boeser, Hughes all played games as soon as their NCAA season was over. Makar made quite the impact in the playoffs last season. This time around the league is arguing that the rosters are set and it would be unfair to allow for teams to add those players.
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I don't even see many NHL cities able to pull it off - it's colossal to have 6-8 NHL teams practicing and playing in the same location. Just the number of ice rinks alone to practice, weight rooms and all the equipment for each team. Those practice rinks have to be within reasonable distance to the hotel - don't see teams doing 2 hour round trips just to hit the ice. There's also the hotel standards - have to be 4 or 5 stars. Multiple large conference rooms have to be available - they need place to do video, the different teams are probably not eating together so each also need an own area where they can have their meals. They talk of playing 3 games per day in each location. They need 4 NHL locker rooms - 2 for the teams playing and 2 for the next 2 teams. Teams are going to be constantly moving in and out of locker rooms - they have to be able to sanitise the place down quickly before the next team moves in. NHL arenas have systems/procedures in place. They also have experienced staff dealing with all the sanitisation issues - gear, laundry. Just the volume of work is going to be enormous. They might also need more practice rinks now that the AHL has been cancelled. Teams will likely have more than the standard 23 player roster. The AHL director talked of 12 players per team. These players also have a place to train and practice without getting into the way of the main teams. So that's more ice, more weight rooms. Teams are going to be stationed in one hub - there's no travel between hubs during rounds. Each team plays the other teams in that hub. The cost to displace and re-set up all the cameras, make sure that the settings are NHL standards has to also be factored in on top of all that. The league decided early that playing in non NHL cities would not be realistic. Apparently around 15 NHL cities made a bid to be a centralised hub. Burnside yesterday: "That list has apparently been narrowed to Toronto, Vancouver, Edmonton, Vegas, Dallas and Minneapolis/St. Paul being considered the front-runners." If their city is chosen as hub the home team will not necessarily be stationed there - ie if Vancouver is a hub city the Canucks could be stationed elsewhere.
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2) European leagues only count if he was on loan there while under an NHL contract. He only has 2 pro-years and not the 3 to qualify. Canucks wouldn't have his rights if he did. As soon as he plays 1 NHL game he will disqualify entirely as he will have reached 80 NHL games. Provost posted the relevant CBA article a few posts earlier - SPC stands for Standard Player Contract (as signed with a NHL team) Group 6: (i) Means any Player who is age 25 or older who has completed three (3) or more professional seasons, whose SPC has expired and: (i) in the case of a Player other than a goaltender, has played less than 80 NHL Games, or (ii) in the case of a goaltender, has played less than 28 NHL Games (for the purpose of this definition, a goaltender must have played a minimum of thirty (30) minutes in an NHL Game to register a game played). For the purposes of the foregoing, the term professional season shall: (A) for a Player aged 18 or 19, mean any season in which such Player plays in eleven (11) or more Professional Games (including NHL Regular Season and Playoff Games, minor league regular season and playoff games, and games played in any European professional league, while under an SPC), and (B) for a Player aged 20 or older, mean any season in which such Player plays in one or more Professional Games (including NHL Regular Season and Playoff Games, minor league regular season and playoff games, and games played in any European professional league, while under an SPC).
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"We have a very strong league in terms of our ownership. We have 19 NHL-owned teams and 12 independently-owned teams. And the independently owned teams are in very good financial condition, even after what happened in this 2019-20 season," he said. "But if their businesses aren't viable, if they have to play in front of an empty building for six months, some of those teams will likely choose not to play."
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No cap in the playoffs either.
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Doubt he can sign a contract with an out clause - they complain enough about players leaving. They've just forbidden 3 NHL agents to do business over there as they are upset that they are bringing players over to the NHL. The league is talking of a start date to next season in December and maybe even January. That's a long time without playing.
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How will the NHL treat conditional trades in the 2020 draft
mll replied to Ray_Cathode's topic in Canucks Talk
Teams are too advanced in the process. They'll probably announce it a few years in advance. Wouldn't be fair to the players either. Maybe they'll consider it for next draft if some leagues don't resume until they can have fans in the stands as scouting opportunities might be too scarce. With the draft being possibly pushed back some scouts might no longer be with their team come draft time. Scouts contracts typically run to 30 June. Brackett might no longer be with the Canucks for the draft. They might prefer to part ways now (if that's indeed the plan) then to be even further along in establishing their draft strategy and him then signing with another team come 1 July. -
Teams also need rinks to practice as well as weight rooms, video rooms etc. How many teams can those remote locations host comfortably in 4 to 5 star hotels. Winnipeg has been eliminated early from consideration because they don't have the facilities to host that many teams. Each arena needs 4 NHL locker rooms and the ability to sanitise them as teams will be in and out. They want to play 3 games per day.