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I don't see Benning moving Boeser either unless for a deal that's too good to turn down. Don't see Minnesota interested in paying that cost. If the draft goes ahead in June NHL player trades won't be allowed. Insiders like Friedman, LeBrun have been saying Dumba could be had for a C1 or a C2 +. I don't see the Wild breaking up their D-corps unless the trade really helps them. They'll probably have to draft that C1. Some teams might be caught at the cap this off-season or have internal budgets to comply with - there might be some trade opportunities there though. The Wild have enough cap space with Galchenyuk and Koivu coming off the books. They might have 1 or 2 buyouts but they don't even have to be compliance buyouts to fit under their cap. It's the season after where things could get tight - Fiala and Brodin are up. I wonder if they'll try and sign Haula to play C2. There's some concern that he's not fully recovered from his knee injury though. Speed was his asset and it doesn't seem like it's quite back. He'll probably have to take a short term deal somewhere.
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The Wild have scored more 5v5 goals than the Canucks over the season. After a rough October mostly on the road, the Wild have been the 2nd highest scoring team in the league. Only Tampa had a higher goals for per game than the Wild from 1 November onwards. Boeser is a goal scorer and scoring hasn't been an issue for the Wild. There's no reason for them to use their assets on a player they don't really need and who doesn't help improve on their weaknesses. Fiala is emerging as a star for the Wild. The fanbase seems head over heals for him - Russo did a poll last month in the Athletic. Suffice also to listen to how their radio hosts are talking about him. His teammates are gushing over him even Parise which is atypical. Even Minnesota hockey icone Lou Nanne thinks he's the real deal and Guerin talks of how he has been spectacular. He had a rough start on the Wild including this season but seems to have finally figured it out and is emerging as a true game breaker. There's a real excitement around him and he's also a fun player to watch. They also have Kaprisov on the way with many observers believing he's going to make a real impact - the Wild are so confident in his ability that they moved 30-goal scorer Zucker to create room for him. He's already a fan favourite although he has yet to play a NHL game. The Canucks are not just going to give Boeser away - he's not going to be cheap to acquire and the Wild need top-6 Cs over more wingers. I really can't see Guerin using his best trade chips on Boeser when he doesn't fill a need. Guerin has openly talked of how their weakness is C. The Wild aren't looking to just make the playoffs but to win a Cup. C1 and C2 are critical positions. The last 2 Cup winner GMs McLellan and Armstrong both listed strength down the middle as one of the 5 key reasons their team finally won a Cup. Staal is 35 and his deal is up in a year. Kunin is better suited at wing. They have no C1 or real C2 going forward. They have a deep prospect pool in goal and have wingers succeeding in their respective leagues but no top-6 Cs other than possibly Khovanov.
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How will the NHL treat conditional trades in the 2020 draft
mll replied to Ray_Cathode's topic in Canucks Talk
The Canucks would be considered a playoff team and NJD would get pick 18th. The article in OP has this on the Vancouver trade: Analysis: The Canucks held a Western Conference playoff spot when the season was paused and would receive the 18th pick under the NHL’s proposed plan to determine the order of selection using points percentage by conference. That pick should be transferred to New Jersey, via Tampa Bay, to satisfy the conditions on both the Miller and Coleman trades. LeBrun on Insider Trading said he polled several GMs to get a feel for where they stand on a June draft. -
True. There's a spot open if they indeed buy out Rask but see them more going for a UFA on circa league minimum as F13 or simply bringing Galchenyuk back. Guerin is also still looking for a C1. I don't see Staal being extended once his deal is up next year. They also don't have a C2 - Kunin is more there by default and is better suited at wing. Maybe this off-season with some teams caught at the cap or with internal budget issues.
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AHL season officially cancelled.
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ErikssonEk takes their tough defensive matchups - his line goes up against McDavid, MacKinnon and the likes. Their young players have to take on those key roles for the team to continue to progress. Koivu is likely not coming back but they have Nico Sturm to step in as C4. There doesn't seem to be a role for Sutter. Galchenyuk is UFA and it's still unclear whether they will bring him back. There's not necessarily room for him as lineup regular as they are expected to add Kaprisov in an offensive role. They are expected to buy out Rask so it would open up a spot but he was F13. On a short and cheap deal maybe. Parise(NMC) Staal Fiala Kaprisov Kunin Zuccarello(NMC) Greenway ErikssonEk Foligno Donato Sturm Hartman (Rask) Doesn't feel like Parise would waive his NMC this time around. Don't see a taker for Zuccarello who has a full NMC. They have no one to replace Staal at C1. They apparently had several calls for Foligno at the TDL but Guerin didn't want to move him. The others are still young - Hartman is the oldest at 25 and will still be a RFA once his deal is up in a year. Don't really see them moving out a young player to get Sutter in the lineup. Maybe Hartman but he will drop the gloves which Sutter doesn't do, he's also cheaper and has been healthy. None of their Fs are untouchable, other than Fiala and probably Kaprisov, but they are looking to get younger while also trying to figure out who should be part of their future. Under Fletcher they built the team around the wrong core of young players - they didn't perform in the post-season and the Wild got stuck in no man's land. Guerin says he wants players who play their best when games matter. Adding Sutter would push a young player out of the lineup and delay their evaluation. He moved Zucker in part also to give more opportunity to their young players. Greenway can be frustrating but when he is on he is such a beast. He is still young and they don't have a read on him in the post-season where with his size he could make quite the impact. Until then not sure Guerin would be looking to move him just yet. He showed patience with Fiala and it's paying off big time. Same with ErikssonEk who has become a reliable shut down C. Greenway also took a step forward playing under Evason - small sample but maybe worth seeing if he can be more consistent. Guerin insists that he won't make a trade unless it makes them better. Their need is young C1 and C2 - they only have Khovanov projected as top-6 C in their system. Several promising wingers though. They don't seem to want more veterans - he traded Zucker who was one of their better players and was also trying to move Parise. Draft picks would just have them start over with the risk of not even drafting an NHLer. Unless they find an equally young player with more upside/consistency they are better off to just keep on developing him.
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Minnesota had a very poor start to the season but got gradually better as their young players progressed. They also had a very tough schedule to start the season with so much time on the road. Friedman on one of his podcast said a GM told him that it was cause for firing had someone on his team accepted such a schedule. Dubnyk's wife also had a serious medical condition where her life was at risk - he spent a fair bit of time away from the team and never got his game on track. The Wild actually outperformed the Canucks from 1 November onwards. They have been 0.616 (good for 9th in the league) vs 0.535 (22nd) for the Canucks from that date on. Over the season the Wild have outscored the Canucks at 5v5 - 156 goals for the Wild vs 142 for the Canucks who do their damage on the PP. The Wild has been one if not the best defensive team in the league but goaltending has been below average. They have Kakhonen in the system - he was drafted the same year as Demko and they see him as their future starter so help is on the way. The Canucks are the opposite - weak defensively with Markstrom bailing them out. The Wild's weakness is C1 and C2. Staal is playing C1 when he really should be C2. They have Galchenyuk playing C when none of his former teams think he can play the position. Kunin and Donato are wingers that were also forced to play C at times. That's why the cost for Dumba is a C1 or C2+. The Wild don't have playmakers let alone of Pettersson's calibre to set Boeser up. He is unlikely to be as productive on their team. I don't see them having interest given the possible ask and he doesn't really fit their lineup.
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There is a roster freeze in effect - trades are not allowed until it is lifted. Likely won't be until the off-season, whenever that is. In their memo to teams on a possible June draft they told them that player trades won't be allowed then.
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There's nothing to do. There's a trade freeze until the off-season, whenever that will be. Even if the draft is to take place before the end of the season there will be no player trade per the league's memo. It's only for the remainder of this season and the Canucks are still set to have some 1.7M in overage. Some GMs still think the cap could decrease next season.
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Apparently no cap limit expected once the season resumes. The Canucks can activate Ferland without making any roster moves.
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Latest update: https://www.tsn.ca/insider-trading-sixteen-20-24-team-playoff-scenarios-are-all-options-1.1473696 What could the league look like if it comes back? If the NHL can finish its 2019-20 season – and it’s a big if – is there a leading format for what the league’s structure could look like? LeBrun: Well I think what’s starting to happen is perhaps some momentum. Now, what’s happened this week is Monday on the Board of Governers call, Gary Bettman, I’m told said that ‘Listen. Sixteen teams, 20 teams, or 24 teams are all options for a playoff format at this point.’ Now, again on Wednesday, in the Return to Play Committee call, I’m told that 16, 20 and 24 were again talked about as options. But of those three from talking to people around the league both on the team side and also on the players’ side, 24 teams seems to be gathering a bit of traction. The idea of a playoff format with 24 teams. Now, it’s not everyone’s cup of tea. I’ve spoken to some people who said well suddenly 24 teams that means you bring in a Montreal on the eastern side, you bring in Chicago on the west, the two 12th-place teams. Those two teams were sellers at the trade deadline and now you’re inviting them in potentially to a playoff play-in. It’s not for everyone. There’s going to be debate right until the end here but what we’re really seeing is the idea that after really really wanting to play out the regular season and involving all 31 teams, that perhaps those bottom-seven teams, who clearly wouldn’t have a lot of motivation to come back and play some regular season games and then shut it down again, might be discarded which would be just fine with them. But again, let me stress. Nothing is decided. These are just the conversations that are being had between both sides this week. Dreger: There’s a lot of that conversation, you’re right. And you could easily adopt a play-in format that trims 24 down to the traditional 16 playoff teams. And by doing that you don’t have regular season games. You have three to six play-in games. And that means you can get through the process more quickly. And the reason behind that would be the preparation for a second wave of COVID-19. If the NHL once again has to shut down in September, maybe October, maybe drift into November, there’s a built-in break, and then they reset and get going on the 2020-21 season again as late as December. Now the other issue here the players’ association and the NHL are working through is what is testing going to look like? How is this all going to work? Who is going to be tested? How many tests are going to be required? I mean it could be a mammoth number of tests that are needed by the NHL and the NHLPA. And how quickly can you turn those test results around? So testing right now is an open issue for sure. What are the financials of something like that? It’s going to cost lots of money to restart the season regardless of how it’s done. Considering fans will not be able to attend games and therefore no revenue from ticket sales, is it even worth it for the league to proceed with the 2019-20 season? Seravalli: Well that’s going to be the key question moving forward. A cost-benefit analysis that the NHL and the NHLPA have undergone. Look, when you talk about testing, two teams told me today that it could cost up to $20 per test to have a player or staff member tested. The question is how many teams are going to be involved when you start to do this math, how many people are going to need to be tested? How often? If it’s daily, it’s pretty easy to see these tests wind up in the millions if not in the tens of millions of dollars to conduct. And then in addition to that, how much does it cost to sanitize the locker rooms, the arenas that you’re going to need to play in? Teams were telling me $15,000 per dressing room to be sanitized per day. They’re still trying to figure out how the rest of the facility would need to be sanitized, but these are all mounting expenses. So far, to this point the NHL has determined that the juice would be worth the squeeze but we’ll see as these continue to add up.
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Jankowski was a Weisbrod pick. He's recollected to the media how he went to watch a game in a storm and Jankowski caught his eye then. He was still with Boston when the Flames picked Gaudreau - he joined Calgary after the draft. Boston wanted him too though and Weisbrod later on told how upset they were at the draft table that Calgary got to him before them.
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The press release on Brackett's promotion said he would report to Weisbrod. One of the big changes in the process was to standardise the grading so that every scout uses the same scale and vocabulary. Benning tasked Weisbrod with improving the scouting process - he had done the same in Calgary. Early on there were several interviews by Weisbrod where he explained the changes they were trying to put in place.
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League made it know that if a city is chosen as hub the home team would not necessarily be based there - ie Edmonton might not be playing in Edmonton. There's no fans in the stands so there's not necessarily home ice advantage. They talk of playing 3 games per day - need 4 locker rooms and teams would be moving in and out including the home team.
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The NHLPA is working with the NHL to find ways to finish the season and award a Cup. The players share the loss in revenue through the split of HRR (hockey related revenue) as defined in the CBA. The hit on players salary would be even more significant if they can't complete the season. The return to play committee which is composed of high ranking members of the NHLPA and NHL as well as players McDavid, Tavares, Scheifele, JvR and Hainsey are meeting again this Wednesday to map out potential scenarios. The NHL understands that they can't isolate players from their families. Daly: "We don't expect them to be isolated and away from their families for a four-month period of time or a three-month period of time or even a two-month period of time," he said. "We understand the importance of kind of family interaction, and we'll find a way to accommodate that."
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It's also to be in the news cycle - the NFL draft got a real boost in viewership this year with no other sport event to watch. The NHL is hoping for the same. Networks are on board too -probably even encouraging it. Pronman made the interesting point that some teams have scouts' on expiring contracts. Contracts typically match the NHL year and run until 30 June. With a later draft, teams could be at risk of losing people with significant information on this year's draft. For example the Canucks don't have an extension in place for Judd Brackett and he could become a free agent in July.
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LeBrun has the Canucks in the virtual playoffs and picking 18th - i.e. the pick would go to NJD this year. They can still reach a different agreement should they wish to.
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There has already been significant GM pushback but the league still put the memo together. There's a Board of Governors call this Monday.
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The Athletic obtained the memo with the details distributed to the teams. According to that memo The league wants to use each team’s points percentage at the time of the pause and rank No. 1-8 in each conference.
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Scott Burnside: So, based on points percentage, Western Conference bubble teams Nashville (.565), Vancouver (.565) and Calgary (.564) and Eastern Conference bubble teams Carolina (.596), the New York Islanders (.588) and Toronto (.579) – three regulation wins more than Columbus, which has also played 70 games and has a .579 points percentage – would not be draft-lottery eligible under next month’s potential system.
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They would use point percentage to the current standings - Canucks would be in the playoffs. They are 3rd in the Pacific and 7th in the West by point percentage.
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Friedman in his 31 thoughts says that a growing number of executives are saying that owners are against compliance buyouts because they don't want the extra cost. The cap will probably stay flat for several years. Wonder if every cap team will still be allowed to spend to the cap by their owners.