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Jim Benning's mid-season press conference
Josepho replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
There is a difference between signing a placeholder to a 1/2 year contract and signing one to a 4+ year contract -- the Red Wings won't be &^@#ed over by those contracts when they're attempting to turn a corner in 2ish years. I completely agree that placeholders during a rebuild are a good thing, and have had no issue with some of Benning's "placeholder" signings -- if all of his signings had similar term to guys like DelZotto/Skille/Vanek/Schaller/Nilsson/Cracknell, I don't think anyone would be complaining. If you want another example of teams not handing out horrendous contracts while rebuilding, take a look at the Leafs (who were even able to get picks for some of these guys) in 2015: Don't exactly understand your point with Holland, but he had a rough end to his tenure in Detroit and the game seems to have passed him by to some degree. -
He might still be one now (even though I'd probably disagree with that), but the contract still has 3 more years after this one, and he's certainly going to decline as he dives further into his 30s. The term is a bigger deal than the AAV, and we will likely miss out on quality players because of the final 2 years of that deal.
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He has signed Myers, Ferland and Holtby in the last 2 years. He's still absolutely signing bad contracts.
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Jim Benning's mid-season press conference
Josepho replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
Yzerman is currently rebuilding Detroit a whole hell of a lot better than Benning ever did here. Sure, he's put in placeholders. Let's look at every single free agent contract Yzerman has signed since taking over. More specifically, let's look at the term of those contracts. 1) Valtteri Filpulla - 2 Years (a player who even has the "cup pedigree" that apparently makes the Beagle signing justifiable) 2) Patrik Nemeth - 2 Years 3) Calvin Pickard - 2 Years 4) Bobby Ryan - 1 Year 5) Jon Merrill - 1 Year 6) Riley Barber - 2 Years 7) Kevin Boyle - 1 Year 8) Kyle Criscuolo - 1 Year 9) Thomas Greiss - 2 Years 10) Troy Stecher - 2 Years 11) Vladislav Namestnikov - 2 Years Spectacularly, Yzerman didn't feel the need to hand out any Eriksson/Beagle/Roussel/Sutter type contracts while rebuilding the team. He also managed to get a 2nd round pick out of taking Marc Staal's terrible contract, which is something Benning has literally never done while here -- he usually just signs the terrible contracts himself. Detroit has 6 picks in the first 3 rounds, something that Benning has literally never done before while here. In fact, the Canucks usually had 7 or less picks while "rebuilding" -- remember when we gave up a 2nd for Gudbranson? Dorion is getting veterans, but he's a terrible manager and Ottawa is an absolute trainwreck at the moment. That was clearly a team hoping to step forward this season that is failing spectacularly, that's not a team attempting to rebuild anymore. He's one few GMs in the league I might consider worse than Benning, and I don't think he should be used as an example of a good organization. Sure, I'll agree that Trotz is probably a bigger factor in NYI's success. But Benning seems to have no interest in changing our coaching staff, and is complacent with what we have -- the fact that literally everyone on this team seems to get a free ride is one on of the biggest problems with this team's culture ever since Benning took over. I agree we'll have a different supporting cast, but Benning's track record of pro-scouting defencemen is awful. Schmidt is the only one that's proven to be worth his salary so far. There's a ton of duds like Sbisa/Bartkowski/Gudbranson/Larsen/Pouliot/Pedan/Clendening/Benn/Fantenberg/Hamonic in that mix, some of them (Sbisa/Gudbranson/Hamonic) picked instead of better players like Hamhuis or Stecher . This is why I'm concerned and don't want Jim here going forward -- supporting this core is so crucial and we can't afford to botch this. -
Jim Benning's mid-season press conference
Josepho replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
It took the Leafs/Islanders/Oilers a long time to become competitive because they were horribly run. Once they ditched their bad management, they ended up improving significantly and quickly. The Islanders made the playoffs their first year with Lamoriello despite losing their franchise player in the offseason, the Oilers have a winning record under Ken Holland, the Leafs cleaned house in 2015 and were able to rebuild (magically doing so without signing awful long term contracts like us) and quickly make the playoffs and are now a perennial threat to win the cup. Once we ditch Benning, we will definitely improve too. Maybe we should ditch him soon so that we don't have a similar situation to the Islanders and Tavares. -
Jim Benning's mid-season press conference
Josepho replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
Also, I was seeing people refer to teams such as the Lightning and Islanders as a model for patience, but those teams only immediately saw some sort of success when they got a new, capable GM. Yzerman was hired in 2012, the Lightning have been a pretty consistent cup contender since 2014. Lamoriello was hired in 2018, Islanders have won several playoff rounds since. What happened to Tavares in NYI might be similar to what goes on here if we keep Benning. I also don't even know if the Islanders are a good example, since they've really mangled their cap situation going forward to be what is likely a lower level playoff team. -
Jim Benning's mid-season press conference
Josepho replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
Nobody was "in love" with Leivo, but it's more cheap depth we let walk, while guys like Roussel are playing worse at 3x the price. -
Jim Benning's mid-season press conference
Josepho replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
I know that rookies get sheltered, but the point I was referencing's Juolevi's deployment to was in response to the idea that he's for sure going to be a top 4 defenceman for us going forward, when we don't know how he's going to perform against top level competition. -
Jim Benning's mid-season press conference
Josepho replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
This interview with Shah indicates that he got an offer from the Canucks in the "Lehner range" -- Lehner got a 5x5 contract. So this is likely not true, this team by all accounts did try to get Markstrom locked up long-term -- they just got bit in the ass attempting to play hardball. -
Jim Benning's mid-season press conference
Josepho replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
Per naturalstattrick at 5v5, TOI With McDavid - 3:24 TOI Away From McDavid - 31:24 TOI With (Brady) Tkachuk - 3:51 TOI Away From Tkachuk - 10:21 TOI With Gaudreau - 11:33 TOI Away From Gaudreau - 63:15 TOI With Scheifele - 4:13 TOI Away From Scheifele - 19:40 TOI With Suzuki - 5:24 TOI Away From Suzuki - 17:31 This is clearly a coach who doesn't have confidence in Juolevi's abilities to actually play against top competition, which is what a top 4 defenceman should be able to do. Matthews/Marner are the only star players he's spent a decent ratio of his time up against (albeit based on a 1 game sample size), and that was a game where we were starting multiple rookies and were forced into putting more effort into sheltering Chatfield. I don't know what your definition of "writing Lind and Gadjovich off" is, but it's at this point likely that they won't stick as NHLers, and is even less likely that they'll be able to carve out a top 9 role in the lineup. Lind in particular I think should be used as trade bait, and based on raw totals we might be able to get someone to bite (similar to how Benning got duped into trading a 2nd round pick for Vey). I completely agree Juolevi should be playing over someone like Benn/Hamonic. This season is lost, and the best thing we can do at this point is start realizing what we have with our young players. Guys like MacEwen should be playing every game, and Demko should be starting a higher proportion of games than he has already. -
Jim Benning's mid-season press conference
Josepho replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
You're referring to 14 games being a small sample size, but you simultaneously are saying he could've performed well based on a 3 game stretch, while ignoring the 38 game sample size that I provided. I don't know if it takes someone 11 games to adjust to a new team. Miller and Schmidt did it pretty seamlessly. We technically don't know what those final 68 games could've looked like, but it's overwhelmingly a continuation of his time in Carolina and the end of his tenure here. Personally, in this specific situation, I would not have been thrilled if Benning signed Markstrom and especially Tanev, that is correct. We can't really afford to have any more rough contracts. However, if we managed our cap space smartly over the years, I'd be more than willing to have him hand out a similar contract (likely less than what Calgary offered) to a top 5 goalie to help this team out in what should be contending years. Handing out contracts to good players is FAR more excusable. Once again, don't really have a complaint with Tanev leaving, but Hamonic is nearing the bottom of the team in GF%, xGF%, SF%, etc. He hasn't been a good replacement at all and he's one of factors in why Hughes' defensive metrics are so godawful this season. Hamonic isn't a replacement for Tanev, he's a (much worse) replacement for Stecher. It's situations like these where I severely question Benning's ability to actually evaluate NHL level talent. I never said I wanted Benning to re-sign Markstrom or Tanev. But, from all reports we know, Benning definitely DID want to bring back Markstrom. There are a few moves now (Nyquist, Toffoli, Markstrom) where Benning clearly hasn't been able to get a player he wanted due to his awful previous decisions blocking him -- that was my point, whether or not I agreed with signing those players is irrelevant. It's irrefutable that his cap allocation has prevented him from attempting to improve the team. Toffoli didn't jump "so early" in UFA. He clearly wanted to stay here, and after the fact stated/implied how frustrated he was with how negotiations were handled and how he was going to come back. He waited multiple days. -
Jim Benning's mid-season press conference
Josepho replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
What about Ferland makes you think he'd be "chipping in goals"? He literally had 0 goals in his last 24 games in Carolina and 1 in his last 38 if you extend that to his time here, this was absolutely an asset trending in the wrong direction and he looked very sluggish here. And yes, Ferland's concussion issues were well-documented before he signed here. I don't actually hate Myers as much as a lot of the fanbase, but he's overpaid and the contract will only continue to age worse. Most players do decline significantly before they turn 34 (which is when his contract ends). Being "smarter with contracts" isn't the only issue here, targeting the correct players is also the problem here. Signing bad players to cheap, short deals doesn't improve the team. Free agent acquisitions can't just be good OR cost-efficient -- they have to be both. -
Jim Benning's mid-season press conference
Josepho replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
Juolevi is playing OKAY with extremely sheltered minutes and he turns 23 this season -- he very likely will top out as a bottom pairer at best. I don't think he's learned his lesson and nothing in Benning's track-record indicates cohesive strategy or planning. In the last two offseasons, he's signed Myers/Ferland/Holtby all to overvalued deals, and got bailed out hard by Ferland going to LTIR. Letting Tanev, Markstrom and Toffoli leave (aka actual good players) doesn't show that he's learned his lesson from overpaying what are bad players -- it's only shown that he's been forced to pay the consequences for overpaying what are bad players. He was clearly trying to sign Markstrom and Toffoli in particular, and lost them because he showed no form of proactivity in negotiations and had too much money allocated on other garbage, there was no "lesson learning" here. Additionally, it's also his ability to literally never find any sort of bargain on the market that's sinking him and preventing him from improving the team -- look at how much better Toronto is with what Spezza/Thornton are doing there very cheaply. So here's my question, what's he going to do with this cap space to "build around this young core", and why do you think it's positive? Specifically, what gives you the confidence in his ability to bring in a quality, affordable bottom 6 and fill out the rest of the defence. We'll need someone to replace Edler eventually, and we still haven't really found such a player 7 years into his tenure. -
Jim Benning's mid-season press conference
Josepho replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
Hoglander, Demko and MAYBE Woo if we're lucky are likely the only 2nd rounders that are going to stick in the NHL and Gaudette is currently the only late round pick to even be an NHL regular. Shrugging off JV/OJ like that is extremely flawed, because the team is unquestionably in a significantly better spot if those picks are made correctly, this is like if I shrug off Benning's best trades and talk about how they've been beaten to death by Pro-Benning people. How many NHL players I expect an NHL GM to draft every year is irrelevant in this case, I'm holding Benning to a higher standard here because the discussion was about how Benning's drafting overcomes all of his other deficiencies. For Jim to overcome his awful track record outside of drafting, he has to be drafting multiple impact players consistently, year-after-year. He has not done that. -
Jim Benning's mid-season press conference
Josepho replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
Sure every team has their misses, but the pro-Benning arguments are that his drafting is good enough to make up all of his other shortcomings. You can simultaneously also brush up any positive things Benning has done outside of drafting (i.e. "a broken clock is right twice a day" with the miller trade or "vegas came to him" with the schmidt deal), this reeks of self-serving bias and you have to keep your logic consistent. I personally don't think Benning's drafting overcomes every other fault of his, and this team's record over the past half-decade speaks for itself. -
Jim Benning's mid-season press conference
Josepho replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
Through good pro scouting, teams like Toronto/Vegas/Tampa are actually getting effective veteran players cheaply. We're the only team that spends an obscene amount on what isn't even a good bottom 6. Literally look at anyone else's bottom half of their lineup on capfriendly, even a team like Edmonton with a cheap bottom 6 is getting far better results than they were in 2016-2018. It's great that we've managed to draft good players with high picks (that we've mainly gotten from Jim's teams being complete garbage), but actually supporting players is what separates the well-run successful teams from the poorly-run teams, and Benning has clearly shown very little ability to do such a thing. -
Jim Benning's mid-season press conference
Josepho replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
This is what I mean when I refer to accountability -- Benning didn't even say this $&!#. -
Jim Benning's mid-season press conference
Josepho replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
He'd talk about bringing in "quality veterans" because he's trying to support his core of players to the best of his players, and isn't simply hoping the young players figure it out. I don't mean buying specifically this year -- that was as a response to him basically just saying "the young players will be better in the future and hopefully we're good by then". Sure, Hoglander has stepped into the top 6. But it's not like we couldn't have both Hoglander and Toffoli (we at least could if our GM knew how to manage the cap). I don't want to see a rebuild at this point, I want to see this young core emerge. It's been 7 &^@#ing years since Benning was hired. I have not had any problem with signing veterans, I've had a problem with the specific veterans being signed and the cost/term they've been coming at. The "direction" is extremely passive and it's how you become the Sabres/Panthers. Every cup winning team has had their GM make numerous big splashes, and has had bargain acquisitions. I never said the core is starting to rot, but they're going to be pissed off if/when Jim continues to support them horribly. We don't want Pettersson to be as pissed off as Eichel currently seems to be in Buffalo. -
Jim Benning's mid-season press conference
Josepho replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
Yes, we do have money off the books soon. However, - A Bunch of that will go to Hughes/Pettersson - Benning's Pro Scouting targets in the NHL have been overwhelmingly misses, especially with the defence (Schmidt maybe being an exception). There is basically nothing he's done to convince me that he'll actually use his cap space smartly through trades or free agency. -
Jim Benning's mid-season press conference
Josepho replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
Maybe if he didn't hand it out to a bunch of dog$&!# players he'd have the money. This just reinforces Benning's total lack of planning. But yes, cap space will be available in the upcoming years. Do I trust Jim to utilize it properly? No. My point is that we can't afford to &^@# around much longer, these players aren't 20 years old anymore, we have to have a properly executed plan or else we're going to waste good years out of excellent young players like the Panthers have with Tallon. -
Jim Benning's mid-season press conference
Josepho replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
None specifically obviously. When he's asked about what's to come of this team moving forward, literally all he's saying is "Pettersson, Hughes, Boeser, etc. will continue to develop". Absolutely no talk of "I'm going to continue to bolster the blueline, put pieces in place, etc.". He seems to hold the entire future of this team on the young players and expects it to work out regardless of who the supporting cast is. -
Jim Benning's mid-season press conference
Josepho replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
Picking good players high in the draft (with picks you got from your team sucking) is a very basic part of being an NHL manager. You can say similar things about Buffalo, Edmonton and Florida over the past decade. The latter 2 are only starting to improve now that they've got decent management insulating their players adequately. The reason we're in a cap crunch is because Benning offered long term contracts to marginal players, who are now preventing us from acquiring actual good players. Toronto managed to make it out of their rebuild without signing this magnitude of long-term deals. After seeing the way this team has been playing after Tanev/Markstrom have left, it's pretty obvious "the reason we're having success so early after the Sedins retired" had very little to do with the Roussel/Sutter/Eriksson/Baertschi/Beagle/etc contracts. We literally are toiling away players. Boeser is 24, Horvat and Demko turn 26 this year, Miller is very obviously unhappy with this team's performance, who knows how long Pettersson will want to play for a team this poorly managed. I've wanted him gone since 2015 and he's done a terrible job in any attempt to improve his team (either Sutter/Gudbranson/Eriksson early in his tenure, or with Beagle/Roussel/Myers later in his tenure). He's abysmal at bringing in NHL level talent from around the league. It's extremely disingenuous to call this a "panic move" or a "change for the sake of change" after 7 years. Even in his press conference, he's literally only talking about the young players developing when speaking for the future of this team -- absolutely no talk of bringing in legitimate, quality veteran players. -
Jim Benning's mid-season press conference
Josepho replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
Admitting that you're learning from previous experiences (you don't even have to say "mistakes") and plan on approaching things differently moving forward is not resigning on air. GMs should be constantly adapting -- even the actual good ones. -
Jim Benning's mid-season press conference
Josepho replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Canucks Talk
I want this loser to take accountability for ruining this hockey team. As much as I hate him, I'd be applauding him if he at least acknowledged that he's made mistakes, and plans on adapting how he manages in the future. And he clearly doesn't think so, talking about "waiting until later" for the deadline and contract talks. Instead it's just "oh the pandemic and stuff" (as if no other team has had to deal with this), "every team has a bad contract", blaming the struggles on being in what is likely the league's worst division and a bunch of other bull$&!#. Legitimately baffling that anyone, at any point, defended this imbecile. -
[Proposal] Jake Virtanen for Tony Deangelo
Josepho replied to Lil B From The Pack's topic in Proposals and Armchair GM'ing
i don't know how people think chatfield will be fine. he's not good.