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  1. Yes they have. Like St Louis has lent some good players to Utica.
  2. Absolutely. This kid has decent skills and the heart of a lion. He was probably ready to jump back on the ice about 10 minutes after he got hit, before he could even stand up by himself. Can't wait to see him in Vancouver.
  3. Or to be less charitable and more accurate, it is trolling. Even what you say is kind of damning him with faint praise. His production is typically around 60th among NHL forwards, which is middle of the pack among first line forwards, and around 30th among those listed as centres, many of who actually are wingers. Combine that with his solid 2-way play and elite faceoff skills, and it would be more accurate to describe him as a first line centre than it would be to call him a third line centre.
  4. I guess you never listen to sports talk shows.
  5. I saw this same sentiment expressed by many posters after the JT Miller trade, the idea that when you (Tampa or Vegas) have a very high quality asset that you need to sell, one that many people would covet, you will need to give that asset away dirt cheap. That is not the case. When you have a very desirable, very difficult-to-acquire asset that you need to sell, such as a top pairing Dman or a strong versatile skilled forward, and you are negotiating with someone who is not willing to pay a reasonable price, you do not need to deal with that party. You can and should hang up the phone and then call up the GMs of whichever of the 29 other teams you can see need your asset the most. You tell each of them that if they are not willing to pay a reasonable price for the player, no problem, you will trade him to one of their competitors. Do you seriously believe that a team GM who has been trying to acquire a top pairing Dman for years, as many have, will prefer to let that player go to one of their competitors rather than paying a reasonable price for that player? That would be very foolish, and not that many really stupid people get responsible 7-figure salary jobs. This season, Covid/ reduced revenues/ reduced salary cap/ the upcoming expansion draft have combined to dramatically distort the trade market. Player values have plummeted while draft picks are even more expensive. It is not very realistic to expect to get more for a 32 year old rental utility forward than you paid for a 3 year younger top pairing Dman on a good contract, in the same season. Getting back on topic, Rayovac is sounding electric, and I am really forward to seeing him play.
  6. Yes, it is so difficult keeping track of all our good prospects. Another reason to get rid of that JB clown. So annoying trying to figure out which of our great prospects will make the team, who will be our next year's Calder finalist, who will be the next Schmidt or Miller he steals for us, etc., etc.
  7. A top two Dman like Schmidt is far more valuable than a utility forward. We paid a two years down the road 3rd for Schmidt. Do you seriously expect to get more than that for Sutter?
  8. I think he has had some bad luck this year, but the bad luck I was specifically referring to was having the puck go over the glass when, the way he hit it, it should not have gone out of play.
  9. If Minny was in real need of Judd's abilities, their drafting certainly could improve. But I expect you are right about Vancouver. Drafting has always been JB's strong point, both when he had Judd helping him and when he did not, so I expect our inflow of young stars to continue, although there could be a pause coming up due to our lack of high picks in last year's draft.
  10. It will be interesting to see if the influx of premium quality prospects dries up immediately now that Judd is gone, as some posters purport to believe will happen.
  11. Benning stated that Pods was NHL-ready when he was drafted, the year before last, and I think it was Button who stated the same thing. In the last 2 seasons Pods has continued to develop well. You may be the only person on the planet who believes that Pods needs AHL time.
  12. Sounds right, but that is half a decade away, so the team has plenty of time to prepare. Way better than being forced to pay a price you would never have offered him starting this fall.
  13. Yeah, burning that year from Huggy's contract probably saved the team at least a million per year on his next contract, probably more.
  14. I never could figure out why a few months ago so many posters desperately wanted Pods to come over to North America immediately, so he could sit around doing nothing rather than continuing to play and develop in Russia.
  15. You can think that if you want. But every piece of evidence, every statement from Tram, his agent, and Benning indicates the opposite.
  16. That was abundantly clear in the playoffs and is still clear this year.
  17. I like the idea of Tram with Huggy. While Tram is primarily a defensive Dman, like any player his value will be affected by how many points he gets. Playing with Huggy would likely be of significant value to Tram when it is time to negotiate his next contract. Can you imagine what would happen to an opposition player who messes with Tram's meal ticket? If he dies, he dies, lol.
  18. Yes. And if it is correct that arbitration rights are also eliminated by burning that year, those combined with the offer sheet rights make a really big difference in the negotiating leverages. With no right to deal with other teams and no arbitration rights, the RFAs in that position don't really seem like any kind of FAs to me. More like property.
  19. I would agree that the hooking penalty wasn't brilliant, but the delay of game penalty was just bad luck, and don't forget he did draw a penalty with strong play. And I hope he snipes one next game, because I made an (apparently misguided) bet on his goal production this year.
  20. That's not completely fair. While he obviously is a troll, and is not averse to fabricating nonsense to put down members of the organization, only about 80% of his posts are trolling posts.
  21. There are some good reasons to burn that year off an ELC. One, it guarantees that he is under contract, and Two, it makes the player happy with the team, which is a good thing, and Three, and probably most importantly, doesn't doing so eliminate the player's right to arbitration and to accept offer sheets from other teams at the end of the ELC? Not needing to worry about being forced into a contract you don't like either by arbitration or by having a competitor offer sheeting your player, has a substantial amount of value to a GM.
  22. Saying you are open to moving everyone is nothing at all like shopping one individual player, which is what is necessary to establish his maximum value. Listening to calls is not how you find out the value of a player. Actually I have a great deal of experience in maximizing value. The way an NHL GM would do that would be to first, look at his player depth charts for all the other NHL teams. Then he would call the GMs of each team that both needs a player like the one he wants to move, and has assets that he covets and thinks he might be able to pry away from the other GM. If you have a useful player, like Miller, most times there would be a good chance that you can orchestrate a bidding war that way and squeeze a very high price out of someone. However, you don't move a valuable asset unless you either are forced to, or are improving your team by moving an asset where you have surplus depth, for one that fills a significant hole. And I really don't think we have a surplus of point-per-game top line players who can play any forward position and are strong on faceoffs, PK and PP. And right now, Covid/ the salary cap/ the ED have devastated the trade market. We got Schmidt, a top pairing Dman, the most valuable type of asset in the NHL, for a 3rd round pick in 2022, remember? The chance of getting a good price for JT or anybody else right now is very slim. When you talk to a number of different GMs while trying to move a player, word will get out, it's not like just talking to one which might stay a secret. When you try and fail to trade a player, you devalue that player in two ways. One, he knows he is not wanted, which is not a good thing. And two, should you get serious about moving him later, the fact that you tried and failed to move him previously makes him less valuable the next time around. If there is anything here you can't follow, just let me know, I would be happy to clarify.
  23. When a player is being shopped around the league, word gets out. He will know that he is not wanted by his team. Which is not that big a deal if you are for sure going to move him, but is not a smart thing to do if you don't succeed in getting what you want for him, because then you have an unhappy player, which does not improve morale, performance or his value. Trading a player does not have to be a knee jerk reaction, but when it is a knee jerk reaction to a one month slump where he is still producing but is not up to his peak effectiveness, it is stupid. Maybe in NHL21, but in the real world dumping a top player (there are currently only 20 players in the NHL who have produced more points than Miller this year and there were only 16 last year) is something a team only does if they have a surplus at his position and a gaping hole that the trade would fill. Or if he demanded a trade, or if they can't afford to keep him. If none of those applies, no competent GM is going to trade him, even if Raymond, Ballard and a pick may appear to be sufficient value to some.
  24. Because if you try that and no team is willing to overpay for him so you subsequently end up keeping him, then you have a player who knows that you don't really want him that much because you were trying to get rid of him. Doing foolish things like that is a guarantee of poor morale for the team, which in turn guarantees poor performance from the team, which is why no competent GM will shop a player around unless they really don't want the player any more and don't care who knows it. And it's not as if point-per-game players are easy to acquire. Dumping one because he has been going through a slump for some weeks, even though he is still producing very close to a point per game, is a really knee jerk, short sighted, silly idea.
  25. In other words, shop him around. Yeah, that generally causes a player to feel wanted and to play better.
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