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I wonder if all of this will lead us back to the idea of a new rail line from northern AB to the NWT to move oil. A few years back there was a lot of support for it and the economics make sense. There's a lot to be said for starting with willing partners.
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You need to do yourself a huge favour and lighten up on yourself a little. She's not worth you losing fun opportunities or worse meeting new people that are good for you. You're giving her way too much of yourself. If you can find a way to see her as being childish and/or humorous that would really help. Its fully within your power to ignore her as well in a group setting, in fact it would probably really really annoy her if you seemed bored by her antics and didn't let it stop you from seeing your friends.
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Actually 1/2 of it is as far as royalties go. The feds have never been good at sharing. JT would rather give that money to a US firm.... which I'm led to understand you don't like to do. AB wants access to the coast but doesn't want to share in the responsibility for a spill, thats a big part of the problem. If this was viewed as an actual partnership and shared responsibility by AB things would be much different today. This whole thing is rife with hypocrisy. People who want the line say people who oppose it just want to give money away to the US, but turn around and want Trudeau to give Kinder Morgan our tax dollars to prop up the deal. They say BC is bad because we'll buy gas from countries with poor emissions standards, but they want to sell 10X that amount of oil to one of the worlds worst polluters. Its Canada's coast but AB won't share in the cleanup responsibility.
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did you exclude yourself or did they ask you not to come?
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you've never worked in one apparently. All hyperbole aside, in no way its the KM expansion a good deal for BC, particularly if AB is allowed to ship 100% dil bit through it. You'd never be pleased with a deal like that if it was reversed and BC was pushing it on AB.
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thats true, the hypocrisy of how Trudeau treated Quebec vs how he's handling this isn't lost on us. I have a deal for you RS, lets open a restaurant together on the border between AB and BC. I'll take 50% of the profits, hire my own people (you don't get any), and bring free cash from an international sugar daddy, you take 8% and deal with the clean up of whatever mess is left behind. Sound fair?
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that argument doesn't cut it - Alberta is selling it to a country that is one of the worst emitters so thats pretty weak stuff. AB wants to sell to China, and if that means BCs gas prices rise over $2 per litre they don't care. Seriously Rob how can you make out BC to be the bad guy in all this?
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don't kid yourself, there will be an adjustment period. Who knows how long but even the best players have a big learning curve when they first break in to the NHL.
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hard to blame them, its gotta be rough playing out this series.
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it would be ironic if he didn't get the record because he was so good the Lakers sweep the series
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That is one of the most biased articles I've seen in a while. I'll just pick out a few gems. "borderline illegal" means legal. So not real argument there. The "rewards" go mostly outside of BC, yet BC takes all the risk. No it isn't a constitutional crisis, it will clarify what powers provinces have. Without that we'll have endless project delays like this. Clarity is a good thing moving forward. Its beyond ridiculous to link this pipeline to high tech investment in Ontario. BC exports metallurgical coal for metal production, it burns far hotter and cleaner than power plant coal. Rob, all articles like this do is continue to try to distract from the main thing most people in BC are concerned about - safety. Nice that the article completely glossed over that eh?
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and you want to stiff Canadians with excessive fuel prices so you can sell oil to China. You're no better.
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well we can always use a guy like that. I wonder why the GM was being such a dick? makes no sense. Oh well, sounds like LJ is making up for lost time anyway.
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that GM must be a real peach. Where would you see Jasek fitting in eventually in the NHL?
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Cullen nails it at 2:30. Thats exactly where Harper failed Alberta.
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yup, he really did. Now its coming back to haunt Alberta..
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I'm a big believer in tech Alf. If we can figure out how to collect carbon at coal burning power plants and get more electric cars on the road we can all have what we want, even the have-nots wanting to have stuff can get there.
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I wonder if Harper can be brought in to help? No, it has to be done correctly even if it delays the project. This was a massive blunder by Harper not to put more resources into research. I suppose there was the risk that he wouldn't get the answer he wanted.
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I suppose the difference is one circumstance is easier to ignore, at least for now? And we still get to eat spot prawns.
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nope, if you read the 2013 NRC report silt off the coast of BC is also an issue. We simply need the proper tests and I'm sure you'd agree if thats all positive that moves things forward in an important way.
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No it isn't (well something might be but I can't care less about US propaganda). It comes from our own National Research Council 2013 report, and the current work being done by a single researcher in Devon. I posted a link to all the current research a few pages above. So what our own NRC researchers found was under many freshwater conditions the dil bit will float. In a small tank (1200 gal I believe) they simulated up to 3 weeks floating in fresh water. But, the 2013 report also showed there is a danger when silt is present for sinking, which is found along a lot of the BC coast. They haven't tested salt water/silt conditions yet, at least they haven't published any results to that effect yet. So to me its clear, lets fund a much bigger tank (say a joint project between the BCIT marine campus and SAIT e.g., lots of good folks there) and simulate those silt conditions, and make the tank big enough to do mock clean up exercises. This kind of thing should have been initiated back in 2006, if that had been done so much of the opposition to this thing would be mitigated. IMO if they can simulate actual coastal seawater-silt conditions and do mock clean ups then i think a lot of us here would feel better about it, but make no mistake, that would also be a disaster in the area effected that might take years to recover from. No credible researcher says it won't have a major impact. But with the segmented double hulls, multiple tugs, etc. that should be a small area. There's over a decade of mistrust on pipelines that has to be overcome, and without credible research I don't see how we'll ever get past it.
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yah, I did. Actually @Warhippy did the best job on that topic. Its a perfect example too of how folks in AB try to throw the responsibility over the fence on the project, vs. acting like a partner. some posters (who shall remain nameless) like to say BC is overplaying the risks. But they have clearly never been part of a risk analysis. The engineers here will know that even when the probability if harm is low, if the severity of the harm is high, it puts you into a high risk classification and you have to mitigate properly. In some posters worlds, they seem to think you forge ahead without adequate systems because the risk is low but conveniently forget about the harm part. Its bad practice and we've seen over and over again in the world when projects done that way do sometimes irreparable harm. The low fund amount is just one part of the problem. The research on dil bit cleanup is still in its early stages as well. The logistical stuff like multiple tugs is in the plan tho which is good.
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then you're not doing it right
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wow. And there was me following the Whalers
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Bad news for Notely today: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/how-free-the-beer-ruling-could-impact-the-b-c-alberta-pipeline-war-1.4624756 Her idea of punishing BC is unconstitutional and won't stand a court challenge. At some point Alberta will run out of options and realize that they have to actually act like a business partner and sit down and be respectful with BC.