JM_

IMO we know nothing other than what is official.

Also, Trevor has a young family, so he can't afford to dig all his time into the team.

true, but we know it was difficult. Everyone always says family reasons.

I don't know if it will ever come out,  but my money now is on attendance being the big issue in all this. Trev just may not have had a plan Aquilini liked to get more bums in the seats, and attendance has been declining every year since Linden took over. Its not fair to attribute that all to him, but he was the head guy for it. 

i think linden is to loyal to vets maybe aquaman wants to turf a few vets and he didnt wanna we will see soon enough  changes could becoming 

yeah exactly, there are a lot of possibilities in the mix now that the numbers are finalized. I'd like to see a deal of Hutton and Gagner for Honka and Spezza e.g. After one year we're left with a 23 year old RHD with upside and no other obligations. 

DEADLINE CAP SPACE : $43,115,521

teams that have spent to the cap are desperate now to move bodies to improve their teams. i like that we aren't hand cuffed that way, right now. especially now that we're not selling out anymore. 

or one can just "Go for Soda!"

(unless you're diabetic....)

my wife has a pretty short list of honey-do things, its a small price to pay for a happy marriage 

a little bourbon helps too. enjoy.

i think so much of the hockey discussion on the minds of so many posters

actually distracts from the hockey watching

analytics

contract numbers

etc

we can no longer longer just watch a player

fulfill a role on a team

and see how effective he is

now that is all coloured by his salary and analytics

and the passion some attach to these corollary issues

a bit overwhelming at times

you'd think they paid the salaries and ran the team

Over or underwhelmed. Is anyone just whelmed? - Robin Young Justice. 

why do they have an exploration on sour cream?

On one hand, if Yzerman pulls off the Karlsson trade, he makes TBL an even bigger powerhouse than before.  On the other hand, he could very well be painting himself into a salary-cap-hell corner.

one Wonder is name is Stevie "Wonder" Yzerman 

No, I think it must be the "LOSING" year after year after year even the "lotto draft" we are LOSING.

Go to the finals three times, all loses, OUCH.and riots didn't make things any easier to take.(I mean I have relatives that were in Australia at the time and said they saw them on the news,totally bad scene).

The media should bring in a witch doctor or shaman to stop this right now,it would be a great PR stunt as well.Sure couldn't hurt.

Tony Gallagher set the bar real low decades ago and the media sheep have been eating the grass Tony planted or smoking it.

I  wish I could line them all up on the ice, and fire pucks at them. Willes article today was pathetic, comparing the Leafs and Canucks, and how much better Shanahan has done compared to Linden. I mean, getting a 1st OA certainly helps, doesn't it? The media here makes me angry, but during summer I'm starved for hockey news. I think what they do is write insulting articles that upset Canucks fans to get a defensive reaction. Pathetic.

This is exactly the type of content I follow CDC for. 

@Ghostsof1915 Looks like Billy Smith or Ron Hextall.

@Jimmy McGill I'm obviously just speculating, but just like with any market, it depends on how the sellers sell him and whether the buyer agrees. The Leafs will try to sell him as a C, and if so, 20 goals, 41 assists, +20 shouts first-line Center at a very young age. The Leafs will want a proven player, a first-rounder and a couple of prospects for him.

thats probably true on the Leafs asking price... maybe Edmonton can afford that right now? it would set us back a year on the rebuild. 

@Jimmy McGillI agree. If management is confident Elias Pettersson is going to be our future 1C and Horvat's a 2C/team captain, I don't think they will be paying 1C money on another player at this point of the rebuild. The situation's different next year if (when) they get the number 1 overall draft pick. They have to get BPA and draft Quinn's brother even if he will end up as the 1C. But hey, I'm no GM and it's not my money...

Their gm doesn’t like to overpay, day one ufas almost all get over paid Either in term $$$ or both. 

I think Winnipeg did the right thing today.

Don’t they need to extend some of there big name guys soon? 25mill won’t last long. 

Besides They need support pieces that can be had cheaper in a week or two. 

Vanek was signed at the end of summer and he was our best and cheapest signing a year ago. 

I feel a bit for Winnipeg, they should've beaten the Knights, I was shocked really. Jets would, in my opinion, matched up soo much better with the Caps. Now they've lost Armia and Stasny with not one FA signing to bolster. 

they do have some to re-sign but still.... thought they'd go harder to keep Stastny. 

I’ll say:

Stecher $2.5 x 2

Virtanen $900K x 2

That would leave us with just under $15 million remaining. 

Jake will probably get a little more, both around 2 mil I bet 

jake will take more than 900k to sign more like 2

"Whatever negatives you can say about the Aquilinis, at least they aren't a Harold Ballard, a Bill Wirtz, or a Eugene Melnyk."

You don't have look beyond this province for examples....take a good look at the Whitecaps ownership.

Regarding guys like Roussel and Beagle, I probably wouldn't sweat the AAV.  But over-extending on term would make me concerned

we don't know if they will choose us but they would sure make this team tougher to play against. isn't that what we want.?

left side's getting crowded and he wasn't showing anything special.

No biggie

I think this might actually be a way for teams and players to avoid the awful and acrimonious process that is arbitration.  In the report about Pouliot (and DSP and the Caps), it's been noted that both sides are still open to working out a deal. 

I mean, there's not only the sticking point with the club that they can't walk away from any arbitration decision that comes under a value of $4M, there's also the aspect of how the club has to basically crucify the player (point out his every flaw and weakness to the arbitrator) to make their case, which is probably not appealing to either the player or club if they *do* want to work things out.  Add that to the fact that the arbitrators *aren't* hockey people, which has led to a long history of questionable decisions.

In other words, this might be more about the arbitration process itself.

According to Rick Dhaliwal, he reports that this decision was based on the want of a 1 way deal. Hopefully we can retain DP at a reasonable price in exchange for a 1 way deal. 

Analytics.

I read a post from someone who mentioned that Hayton had excellent advanced stats, so @MJDDawg isn't even being ironic when he says that.

Here it is, actually: 

Tkachuk will be long gone by 7th.

@MikeBossy I agree. Legacy pick. 

I think we will be faced with a Dobson vs Bouchard choice.

@Cramarossa this has to help your day a little bit 

I'm crying I'm so happy 

Good deal for both sides.

That was my first thought too.

Good.  Don't want us making a mistake, like Minni did, and signing a HUGE dollar UFA that only makes us mediocre.  

I'd rather make an overpayment on defence. 

Barry's signing just confirmed. Good for him, I was hoping he'd end up here someday but he's earned it. 

What is this pot you speak of?

its the devils lettuce, i hear 

When these deals actually go down, if you were to post it on this forum in advance, half the place would be like "lolz never gunna hppen."

Considering the sheer volume of Tanev trade proposals, it's highly likely one of them will be close to reality, when (and if) Tanev is traded.  

Trade Edler
That is how the proposal should look

i don't know. i'll paint all my white pills blue and see if that reverses the aging process. 

thanks Joe. 

remedies... I dunno, all my dad tells me is growing old isn't for wimps! 

Update from Benning confirms they expect OJ to be ready for camp so thats very good news. 

that's great news. now if we can also draft dobson, bouchard or boqvist. 

Why is this Eklund character even considered a source?  Isn't he kind of a joke on CDC?

he's a joke everywhere 

Dwayne klessel.. he cant even be honest about his name.

Great city. I was there 4 years ago. Crazy about their Longhorns

@Twilight Sparkle was walking there last night 

people here seem super laid back and very nice. Its like if Snoop Dog ran AB 

I went to Dallas once, man is that city a virtual ghost town at dusk (REALLY creepy when you think about it, not a single soul at night, not even any panhandlers).  No Starbucks (open or closed lol) downtown either.  NOBODY lives downtown (*ALL* business it seems other than the odd eating establishments that are closed at dusk as well - guess they only employ vampires....).

One other REALLY crazy thing.  I went to that stretch of road where JFK got shot.  They've got spots on the road marked off - but it is STILL a very busy road.  Yet you get dumb people going to the middle of the road to take selfies!  No kidding, it would be like walking & stopping in the middle of Marine Drive to take pictures!

Definitely defiant dumplings...

Jimmy's Lunch at the PNE.

Great burgers. 

Money buys a lot of good will. 

@Shift-4 yes and that's my go-to example for why it's a bad idea to give the analytics crew the final decision.

a well constructed system of play

suitable for the player talent on a team

is not assessed or addressed by analytics

the right system for the cast of players

helped them to shine and achieve better their potential

it is a bit of an art, and less a science, to be able to see

what best works for the group of players assembled as your team

analytics is more a reporting of performance

it does not assist in increasing or enhancing performance

and it not really a predictive tool

unless the same circumstances are present for the same player being assessed moving forward

Normally I'm not a big fan of taking on bad contracts, but in this case, we really do have the $$. you'd think theres a team out there that would love to shed the last 1 or 2 years of a bad contract and add some picks. 

EK, or OEL next July 1st.  Save the money until then.

its all going towards the luongo contract when he retires next year. #debbiedowner