Unless you have insider knowledge that Gudbranson is going to demand top dollar, I don't see why we trade a guy who at 26, and best season is 13 points. He's more of a stay at home d-man. He accepted a 1 year $3.5 million dollar deal. Maybe we should see all the options, and see what his demands are before just trading him.

Once we get more younger and more mobile d-men, then I say we should look at trading him or Tanev. 

Stop putting the cart before the horse. Might be a good idea to start drafting some right handed defensemen first? 

cart before what horse

he is a free agent

the trade deadline is less then 2 months away

we need a return before he can walk

if this was a straight forward contract negotiation he would already be resigned

he has been free to sign a new contract for 2 weeks now

i'm sure both had some idea of each sides respective positions prior to jan 1

resigning him without significant trade restrictions

to allow us to move him during his next contract as you would like

would cost the team even more in terms of dollars

get your head out of the sand

look at what is going on

there are enough indicators

trading earlier rather then closer to the trade deadline seems to net a better return

so basically the team has about a 4 week window left

the more patient you are the better deal you will get.... but if your too patient or too eager the deal could go sideways... timing is everything....

I'd do it, but the Caps probably wouldn't.

Capitals are also on their bye week - 13 to the 17th.

I'd also include Goldy if that got it done.

Certain religions and cultures have conservative attitudes towards nudity. It's particularly noticeable in the Muslim world or in the US. Really depends on where you live.

You should move to France, Cram. I mean, Fifty Shades of Grey only earned a 12 rating there (so anyone older than that could see the movie without restriction).

It's nothing new in Canada, groups have been doing this across Canada (including in Vancouver https://www.skinnydipper.ca/) without all the press for years, it's just that somebody complained and now the city decides to "look into it".  

But yeah, typically people over here are super anal about nudity. It's absurd. 

Moving dangerously into the realm of naked ambition...

He earned that medal. He can do with it whatever he so chooses. If he wants to give it away that's fine.

People aren't being too hard on him. There are lots of people defending him and some people who disagree with his actions aren't holding anything against him because he's young.

Not sure who would blame the guy? Sweden got no calls at all and Lias, EP, Dahlin were all camped out on the bench for the last ten minutes after referees kept calling penalties. All three of them were visibly frustrated with the way the last ten minutes played out and it showed post game. It's moments like those and after Russia lost a few years ago which provide justification for not having the losing team on the ice after the game ends. I felt particularly bad for EP who had one bad game and was shifted off the top line, and didn't receive any player awards despite the rest of his play being exceptional. 

I'm not surprised or upset.  Somebody asked me the other day to rank the teams and I ranked Team USA behind both Canada and Sweden.

Gold medal teams don't lose to Slovakia.  That shows a shortage of championship character and leadership.

@SabreFan1

To make up for the horror of this thread, I will rid you of a certain Sam   In exchange for a gentle Ben.  

Sam will be out of Buffalo the first good trade proposal Botterill gets for him.  He's just not good this season.

Too much money to their young guys too soon, leaves no money for a solid veteran presence, forcing the young guys to be responsible for too much of the heavy lifting: PK, D-Zone starts, and hard match-ups.  

Terrible coaching, terrible asset management, rushing unready prospects every single year, not ever drafting defensemen, poor management

List goes on

I don't know but if they get the 1st overall this year...

I think there are only a few real candidates to be dealt in any event - Vanek and perhaps Edler or Hutton - so my guess would be a continuance of the transition process we've seen the past three years.

My opinion/guess will be that they'll probably make the transition move and deal Vanek to a contender for a future if they're not realistically competitive at the deadline - if the payment warrants it and assuming he wants to go.  If JB is offered pittances like was the case with Hamhuis, I don't think we should be in the business of gifting contenders with cheap rentals or broadcasting that we're desperate for marginal futures unless Vanek indicates that he wants a shot at going deep in the playoffs, in which case I think he should be accommodated.

I think it will also depend on the health of this roster at that point.  If the team is healthy and surging, you simply don't sell - it is baseline unprofessional.   If it's unhealthy and/or not showing signs of real competitiveness, I'd lean to selling even if it may be close to a playoff birth.

It seems to me that Yzerman was in that type of position last year - borderline in the race for the playoffs - but not healthy/missing key elements, so he sold Boyle, a deal that I think was wise for TB and a headscratcher for a young, rebuilding team wasting a good future on a rental.   If the team were 3-5 out but missing Tanev and/or Horvat and/or Sutter for example, I might lean the way Yzerman did.

Will we be trading

Out near the deadline

Here's what Jim sang to meeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Que sera, Nux fan

The future's not yer's to see

Just pipe down, & payy the fee

Que sera

@oldnews I think thats pretty accurate, to me its going to hinge a lot of Sutter's health, I can't see the team being competitive without him.

That Boyle deal is still funny.  

Reddit NHL Streams

thanks man. 

Happy Holidays! 

Merry Xmas Jimmy and very happy and prosperous New year to you and your loved ones!!

Back at ya Jimmy! A drink to you and yours!

Well, no on-air personality will every pronounce his name as Pettershon

it sounds like "Eleeas Pettershoen" to me

"We are happy to select from Assat of the Finnish Liiga Jesperi Ayattollah Khomeini".....crickets.

@Baer. the schedule works in our favour too with the Christmas break, we only have 5 games in the next 2 weeks. It'll hurt if we drop them all but hopefully the team can rally a bit around the good news today. 

Thank goodness. The last thing anyone wants to see is a Vancouver offense without Brock Boeser and Bo Horvat. 

Looks like the Calder is back on the menu.

 i wonder what consideration they provided for our generosity ?

But McDavid has the sniffles......so it's all even.  lol

maybe the deal was that we got some hope for a couple months

to energize the fan base here

I think the main issue is we have a lot of players that either are snake-bitten, or just really aren't playing that well. There are some players that should definitely stay and form the nucleus of our core. But I'm seeing a lot of guys that for whatever reason just isn't a fit for the team. Maybe it's adapting to Green's style. 

Think we're seeing the true importance of Horvat and Sutter to the team. Without them, lots of players are being forced to handle workloads that they aren't used to or aren't optimized for. At this point, it probably goes beyond how they are being coached because they really don't have anyone capable of properly filling their minutes right now.

That being said, they probably aren't as bad without him as they have been in the last four games.

to me its refreshing. I'd rather have that than boiler plate bs. 

Travis does have good interviews, he really supports his players. 

10:03 of the video is where it really gets interesting

wow thats neat. I hope they can engineer that one correctly  the patent angle is interesting as well, it may need to be publicly funded to get the therapies out faster 

Sweet, going to watch that vid later. I agree with @Mr.DirtyDangles, our food is responsible for many of our medical afflictions. The Western diet is, at times, pure sh*t.

Doctors aren't doing anyone any favours by over prescribing things like antibiotics, but it isn't entirely their fault. If you are a doctor who own a practice with patients who walk in with the common cold or flu demanding pills to placate their placebo craving mentalities over letting nature take it's natural viral course, then you are a doctor in a bind: give the mom or dad with a sick kid their lousy prescription after attempting to educate them on the matter, or do not and receive poor reviews about you as a doctor. 

I sympathize with doctors as they have to deal with people some of us would roll our eyes at, and instead of taking the hit online, they write a scrippy. 

If we could improve our diets we would be so much better off, but we definitely have a need for medical science. People really need to educate themselves a little more, myself included, so when topics like this come up in real life it's easier to have a conversation using facts instead of wives' tales.

Benning has had the best calendar year out of any GM in the league as far as I'm concerned.  Can't wait to see our prospects in the WJHC.  We have lots of youth already in the NHL and a deeper prospect pool than any other time I can recall in my team as a fan.  Best GM we've had since Quinn.

This year will be an A+ for me if Boeser wins the Calder. Its a successful year either way, but Boeser winning the Calder would put it over the top. I don't care if we make the playoffs because I don't think we'll have the depth to go deep.

With that said, I wonder if we make the playoffs if Tryamkin considers coming back next year as we're more competitive, would make room for him, new coach, and Goldobin a regular.

The Pouliot trade and resurgence is huge for this team. We've lacked an elite defenceman for a while and while he may not get there, he's our best shot at a 40-50 point defenceman in a while. Juolevi looks good and might be a decent #2 guy but Pouliot still has that #1 potential.

Torts you've finally lost it. 

God damn space reptilians sucking the neuropeptide from all our heads!

He thinks being an expert in one field makes him an authority in all other fields.

Sorry your bro is a moron, Jim. He means well, but that's of little comfort to your dad. My mom has really bad arthritis and can barely walk at times. I'm drawing a blank on the drug she takes to manage it, but it's an injection. She keeps thinking about going one rung up to a new one that might stop everything where it is and make her feel better, but the side effects are much more dangerous. 

@Two one one Yeah I'll give you that, but so do many highly intelligent people. I find him only to be dramatically pompous, and I can overlook that quite easily as I find the topics he speaks about quite interesting.

yah its rough, i think it took my dad 3-4 years to figure out the best mix of meds for his situation. I'm just glad my nephew got vaccinated before my brother went full Flanders 

@SabreFan1 I'd say asking STL for any combination of Thompson, Thomas, Kyrou, or Kostin in return for Kane with salary retained would be fair. 

Kane.

@TheHitman They might actually go for a trade if they think Kane could put them over the top.  The Blues have been knocking on the door in the playoffs for years now.  They just haven't been able to get over the hump.  Kane's aggressiveness would do a lot for them.

well, I do think Evander Kane is a good option for them, but Buffalo is probably looking for a 6 piece haul like Colorado got for Duchene  High quality D isn't going to be cheap either. But what choice do they have? The playoffs are going to be out of reach in 2 weeks at this rate. 

The wasteland that is Edmonton. It's too bad there's no rule around first overall picks in a certain time frame, like 5 years between or something.

That organization, once so great, is now just a loser. A complete failure. They should be ashamed. 

With parity right now, EDM might still be fine. they're passable on the road, but @ home they're like the Canucks. Except they dont play in a library, no excuse.

Where did we end up?  Oh yes.  We aren't in the lotto, because we're above the playoff bar, where we can (again) miss out on a chance for a generational player (this time a dman) so we can lose in round one to Calgary.  

@Alflives Yeah. Damn this stupid team for being good! 

don't worry Alf, we may yet fall to 24th and hope for a Dallas slide of our own. We simply can't count on it for the #1, no one can. 

I think they're about dead even honestly. Coming into this year, I expected Nilsson to out-perform Markstrom, but they've both been incredible.

Nilsson seems a bit more calm in net with less movement, just seems to have great positioning all the time. Seems to be a better puck handler as well. I'm leaning Nilsson, but I do like what Marky is doing as well.  

so the key to the cup is we get another V? hmm.... 

Same, they've been playing very well and Vanek is quietly having a great year so far

That Sutter line was just as good today as well.

After the hint it has to be Anson Carter.

It's gotta be Stefan or Peter Sedin.

gotta be this guy ........right?