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Kuzmenko Pettersson Mikhayev Beauvillier/Hoglander Miller Boeser Kravstov Raty Podkolzin McDon Aman Joshua Hughes ???? OEL Hronek Wolanin Burroughs Myers and Garland moved this offseason Hoglander will start in the AHL in my opinion and likely be brought up to the big club post trade deadline after one of Boeser or Beauvillier are moved. Hoping both have a great season and we move Beauvillier for at least a 1st rounder. We just need to find a top 4 RHD to play with Hughes (Graves, Severson, Gavrikov, Livingstone)

In my opinion our core is Pettersson Hughes Demko Kuzmenko Miller Podkolzin maybe Hronek. hopefully Boeser

We are not nor have we ever been bad enough to compete with the likes of ARI, CHI, CLB, ANA and SJ for 1 of those 5 spots. Most teams that have forwards on a 40 goal pace or 100 point pace or defensemen at a ppg or a goalie that is potentially a top 5 in the league just cant compete for the basement with those teams above. Petey, Demko and Hughes are arguably top 10 in the league at their respective positions. That would be classified as elite.

Lmao at least youre good for a laugh

Bedard Fantili Carlsson Michkov game breaking franchise level players, im sure you can agree with this. CLB, SJ, ANA, CHI Even if we bring Petey and Hughes minutes down and give Demko 3 of 4 games, which of those teams do you think we couldve out tanked? 5 was always going to be our worst possible finish because those 4 teams are higher degree of bad. So lets 5/6th was ideally what we wouldve gotten and a small chance at Bedard. 5-10 could potentially be chosen from the 3rd tier of 7 or so players. I would be okay with any of Benson, Smith, Reinbacher, Moore or Cristall. All of them are at least 1-2 years away but have flaws in thier game compare to tier 1 & 2. Deep down im hoping for Smith or Reinbacher with Moore as an honorable mention simply because they fit a need 2/3c or RHD. We may not get our choice if we drop to 10 but it’s approximately the same caliber of player. Enjoy the ride. This team isnt going 14-0 so we likely draft between 6-10. Let the cards fall and be excited this team has done an almost 180 since the beginning of the season.

That management group and coaching staff is no longer a part of this organization. PA has done well with asset management thus far. The Hronek deal might be up for debate but the rest were solid moves. The only reason everyone like yourself are complaining is because of Bedard. If this was a weak draft, most couldnt care less to get argumentative. I’d also like to mention Smith, Benson, Yager, Cristall, Reinbacher, Moore among a few others in that tier, will all be available in that 5-10 range. The chance at top 5 is non-existent. 6-10 we still get a great player (Tier 3)

I wonder where Kuzmenko would go in this draft? The guy this management got for free last summer.

Lmao broooooooo for the umpteenth time players do not tank!!!!! Are you selectively reading or something? You want the team to tank, you want to post it here in an open forum! Thats great, no one has the right to stop you but im assuming you come here to create dialogue and debate. You cant simply ignore the other side. Unless, this forum is like a personal journal/diary for you to vent in which case I will skip your posts in the future and just think to myself “i hope hes okay” when/if the Canucks draft 12th.

Agreed almost fully. He didnt have a great game yesterday but was surprised to see him win a few puck chases, skate speedily into a board battle, absorb hits, etc. It seems like hes realized that his back will be fine and he doesnt have to play cautiously or reserved. I have a gut feeling hes going to return to form next season and be a 30G guy again for us. Not someone I would even think about trading until the next deadline with the hopes we see the resurgence of rookie Brock. I think he plays on Miller's wing next season with Beauvillier.

He'll demand a trade. He wont waste his career in Ohio. He'll be home sooner. BELIEVE!!!!

The Canucks will draft 2nd OA after finally getting some lottery luck. CLB will draft 1st OA. We will draft Adam Fantili with the 2nd OA pick. In 3 years, Bedard will refuse to play for CLB and ask for a trade to Vancouver. We will trade JT Miller, Silovs, our 1st in the next two years. We will have Petey, Bedard and Fantili. We will win the stanleyz cupz. Everyone just has to be patient. Waiting for God to return my phone call. I'll make it happen. On a serious note, if we get 1st OA, do we trade down to 2nd OA for a boat load and then just wait for Bedards homecoming?

Mikhayev Petey Kuz Beuavillier Miller Boeser Kravtsov Raty Podkolzin Mcdo Aman Joshua

I think youre in the ballpark Alf but will all be dependent on his production next season. I could see him getting a little raise and sign 19-20 mill over 4 years.

I would really like to keep Boeser until the deadline next season to see how he does. With emphasis on off season training and his off-ice issues hopefully a distant memory he can get back to form. We have a sniper with Petey in Kuz. If Boeser could become the sniper on Millers line we would be set in the top 6. I move both Garland, Hoglander (love him but someones gotta go) and another small add to get another top 3 defenseman like Weegar.

16 points in 18 games. If he keeps scoring at this pace we're likely looking at significantly more. Beauvillier in 2023/24 if has 45+ points by the deadline, we'll likely get multiple picks back. With that being said, if hes producing at near a ppg clip at his age, I would be moving Garland, OEL, Myers, even Hoglander well before even considering moving him. I've been really impressed in the games that I've seen. Even if he's not adding on the score sheet, he always has his feet moving, battles hard (although i think there is another level to this he could get to), positions him self extremely well in the offensive zone to help create space and doesn't make many mistakes.

Core (7): 2c’s - Pettersson, Miller 2w’s - Kuzmenko, 2dmen - Hughes (maybe Hronek) 1 goalie - Demko how many of those teams have Stanley cups outside of Colorado since drafting all those top 10 players or have any recent success?

Absolutely not. What makes you think anything in my post implied bust with respect to Hischier? In a redraft Makar and Pettersson go 1-2, all i was saying. Actually they were in fact CLEAR CUT 1-2. Patrick led rankings all year until the end. No one in that draft made an argument for 1-2 outside those two. I counted 5-6 players from 2015-2019 drafted between 10-31/32 that were regulars in the lineup. 6-8 players usually makeup the core. 32 teams in the league. So the approximate 80-90% of the 224 core players in the league were drafted 1-10??? Lol also theres no guarantee 1st OA gives you a franchise/elite player either. what exactly is the point of your argument? That great players can only be drafted with the first 10 picks?

Lot can change in a couple years

Thank you for letting us know

Tanev doesnt really fit in with our core given his age. We want to be able to compete year after year, no? Think Weegar allows us to do that as opposed to Tanev who in two years will be? mid 30's?

Puckhub?

Wonder what the Canucks records is on hot days as opposed to rainy/cold days lol

We will not be rebuilding so long as Demko, Hughes and Pettersson remain the core. So begins the retool!! Any attempt at trading for Hanifin or Weegar starts with a 1st round pick. Calgary will not be giving either of them away for less than market value. If they decide to rebuild as early as next season, which in my opinion, is something they should strongly consider. Allows them to move Huberdeau and others with significant retention knowing well they arent trying to ice a competitive team for the next 5-7 years and wont necessarily be spending to the cap. Calgary could potentially move Tanev, Markstrom, Huberdeau, Weegar, Hanifin, Lindholm and Kadri for a massive haul of futures. Ideal trade 2024 off season LOL: Hanifin (likely signs similar to a Hronek deal 6 -7m per) FOR 1st in 2024, Hoglander, Klimovich, Garland (they can flip at deadline) Weegar (retention 750k = 5.5m) = 2nd in 2025, 1st in 2026, Karlsson (similar to the Hronek trade) Buyout OEL Trade Myers, Poolman, Pearson Sign Livingstone 2025 Season: Kuz Petey Mikhayev Beauvillier Miller Boeser Kravstov Raty Podkolzin McDo Aman Joshua Hughes Weegar Hanifin Hronek Wolanin Livingstone Demko Silovs Too much? Too little? I shouldnt smoke so much Honey Boba and Benny Blunto's?

Would you do that trade if you were the team that had Bedard?

Call me an optimist. I've read enough about their underlying metrics since Tocchet took over, employed the eye test and have enough faith in this management group to make a bold prediction confidently. Allow me to simply put a question to you. Where would we be if the current Demko was with this team since the beginning of the season and playing as he has since his return from injury? Demko has played 21 of the 66 games this season. If he played an additional 24 games at his current "level" and went a mere .500 (keep in mind Demko likely outperforms a .500 record), that's an additional 24 points. Don't take into consideration how others have improved since Tocchet took over. Lets look at the goalie position only. 24 points added to our total which puts us around 87 points for the season (top 10 team). Unless you think Demko is an average goalie in the league or that the games played prior to his injury were an accurate representation of the talent he is - Demko alone, in form, carries us to the top half of the league. Add in Hronek who is a bonafide top 2/3 RHD who is producing at a 50-60 point clip prior to his injury. Finally add in the current play of Pettersson, Miller, Kuzmenko. Now don't forget to add in Beauvillier as well who has played a much more tenacious 200 ft game compared to Horvat and has equaled/surpassed his production since being acquired. Also add Mikhayev who was terrific but played the entire season with a bum knee. I didn't even mention the addition of Tocchet, Gonchar and Foote who finally have this team playing a defensive structure and a system that matches well with the talent and skillset available to them. So yes, I am confident we are a playoff team next year. I said that after taking my rose colored glasses off my face.