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  1. Canada will have 10% of the deaths of the USA and 10% of the cases. We have 10% of the population. Simple math we learned in grade 6.
  2. BC's top Doctor feels the need to take Sundays off. Shocking and pathetic imo. I sent BC Health an email to that effect today. You all should to. The head BC doctor takes a day off during the worst pandemic in the last 100 years? Good god...how pathetic... Bonnie...how about you take some days off in June when this is in control.
  3. Give him time? Are you serious? That is the one thing no one has. Nobody can defend some of the things the great orange turd has said in the last few days. He sounds like someone with a major head injury. He verbally berates anybody that challenges him on his inaction. He is the reason their their system is a disaster. He fired everyone that has any real skills. Come on.....
  4. Sadly, we will probably start hearing about that happening in the states....with people shooting others to get their TP. Sad days ahead.... We will get through this though!!
  5. I know there is nothing good coming from this pandemic. But....trump is showing what a complete baboon he is and I believe his chances of getting re elected are tanking. Before this pandemic, it looked like Americans were actually going to re elect that orange turd. I am not a Trudeau supporter, but he could never ever be as bad as trump.
  6. Take a seven foot 2 x 4 with you.
  7. He sounds like an imbecile. USA elected this guy. Their guy is now running their country during the biggest emergency to hit the country in one hundred years. Good luck USA......jeebus...
  8. One would hope Trudeau has already told certain factories they need to start building ventilators and masks. I mean, that is what the emergency status allows him to do.
  9. At the provincial level our top boss talked to the provincial health who agreed we have to be tested to get back to work. They agreed. The problem is, so far, it still is not being done. Hopefully very soon.....
  10. Yes they know. I told them on the 2nd and 3rd calls. She would not outright say they don't have enough tests but that is certainly how it sounded. I hope you are correct and that it happens very soon so we can get back to work to help out co-workers as more and more are having to self isolate.
  11. A link for what exactly? Myself (an emergency services worker) and many co-workers I know are now in self isolation. I have to be away from work for 14 days as I have a fever, cough, and sore throat. I tried to get tested via calling 811 three times and was told no. Therefore, I cannot get back to work. What link do you need?
  12. Yeah...that is the problem. They should test those with flu symptoms because we already know 80% of people will only have those minor symptoms. Because of the lack of tests, many emergency services workers are now having to self isolate for 14 days and taking themselves out of the group of people that can help during these times. Does that not seem like a major flaw in how Doc Bonnie is responding? And as more and more people get covid, which will happen, more and more emergency services workers will be off for at least 2 weeks further reducing the help out there. Pathetic response by our health system and Bonnie imo. Emergency services workers having to self isolate should be getting tested immediately so that those that don't have covid can get back to the critical work in only a few days and not 2 full weeks. As stated, it is either because we are not prepared and do not have enough tests or do not have enough people to administer the tests. I don't know which of those problems has occurred, but I believe we probably have too few tests. That is just not good enough from our top doctor.
  13. I watched a movie (can't remember the name) about six months ago. The premise was that a guy had confirmed there is life after death somehow. And because of that, many people started committing suicide for a number of different reasons including they thought the after life would be better than their current life. Your thoughts made me remember the movie --> it was mediocre at best. Edit: it was called The Discovery.
  14. I have had the symptoms for a week. Called 811 twice and they WILL NOT test unless you answer "yea" to knowing someone who already tested positive and you had direct contact with them. Ridiculous. Then the rules were changed a bit and some emergency services workers were supposed to be able to get tested. I again called and they told me for a third time they would not test me. Pathetic. And I have co-workers in the same position. So yes, I have proof from my own and my co-workers situations that the government and medical system were totally unprepared for this and either are short on tests or short on staff to perform those tests.
  15. Canada's numbers of infected are artificially low because we are barely testing anyone. Pathetic.
  16. And just who is going to enforce this? In the real world, we only have enough police to continue to deal with domestic abuse and mental health calls. What do you propose? Honestly I want to know. And what is the penalty? A fine? Jail (we have barely any jail space). This are going to get worse for quite some time.
  17. Sorry dude...this thing sucks. I hope you and your family get through it fine!!
  18. Those people are disgusting. I think if I would have been there I would have ripped open the boxes and threw their "booty" everywhere. Absolutely disgusting. Shame on the store owner to let those pigs buy all that.
  19. Sure. I thought posters said they preferred the article. Can't please everyone...
  20. The Doctor Who Helped Defeat Smallpox Explains What's Coming Epidemiologist Larry Brilliant, who warned of pandemic in 2006, says we can beat the novel coronavirus—but first, we need lots more testing. LARRY BRILLIANT SAYS he doesn’t have a crystal ball. But 14 years ago, Brilliant, the epidemiologist who helped eradicate smallpox, spoke to a TED audience and described what the next pandemic would look like. At the time, it sounded almost too horrible to take seriously. “A billion people would get sick," he said. “As many as 165 million people would die. There would be a global recession and depression, and the cost to our economy of $1 to $3 trillion would be far worse for everyone than merely 100 million people dying, because so many more people would lose their jobs and their health care benefits, that the consequences are almost unthinkable.” Now the unthinkable is here, and Brilliant, the Chairman of the board of Ending Pandemics, is sharing expertise with those on the front lines. We are a long way from 100 million deaths due to the novel coronavirus, but it has turned our world upside down. Brilliant is trying not to say “I told you so” too often. But he did tell us so, not only in talks and writings, but as the senior technical advisor for the pandemic horror film Contagion, now a top streaming selection for the homebound. Besides working with the World Health Organization in the effort to end smallpox, Brilliant, who is now 75, has fought flu, polio, and blindness; once led Google’s nonprofit wing, Google.org; co-founded the conferencing system the Well; and has traveled with the Grateful Dead. We talked by phone on Tuesday. At the time, President Donald Trump’s response to the crisis had started to change from “no worries at all” to finally taking more significant steps to stem the pandemic. Brilliant lives in one of the six Bay Area counties where residents were ordered to shelter in place. When we began the conversation, he’d just gotten off the phone with someone he described as high government official, who asked Brilliant “How the &^@# did we get here?” I wanted to hear how we’ll get out of here. The conversation has been edited and condensed. Steven Levy: I was in the room in 2006 when you gave that TED talk. Your wish was “Help Me Stop Pandemics.” You didn't get your wish, did you? Larry Brilliant: No, I didn't get that wish at all, although the systems that I asked for have certainly been created and are being used. It's very funny because we did a movie, Contagion— We're all watching that movie now. People say Contagion is prescient. We just saw the science. The whole epidemiological community has been warning everybody for the past 10 or 15 years that it wasn't a question of whether we were going to have a pandemic like this. It was simply when. It's really hard to get people to listen. I mean, Trump pushed out the admiral on the National Security Council, who was the only person at that level who's responsible for pandemic defense. With him went his entire downline of employees and staff and relationships. And then Trump removed the [early warning] funding for countries around the world. I've heard you talk about the significance that this is a “novel” virus. It doesn't mean a fictitious virus. It’s not like a novel or a novella. Too bad. It means it's new. That there is no human being in the world that has immunity as a result of having had it before. That means it’s capable of infecting 7.8 billion of our brothers and sisters. Since it's novel, we’re still learning about it. Do you believe that if someone gets it and recovers, that person thereafter has immunity? So I don't see anything in this virus, even though it's novel, [that contradicts that]. There are cases where people think that they've gotten it again, [but] that's more likely to be a test failure than it is an actual reinfection. But there's going to be tens of millions of us or hundreds of millions of us or more who will get this virus before it's all over, and with large numbers like that, almost anything where you ask “Does this happen?” can happen. That doesn't mean that it is of public health or epidemiological importance. Is this the worst outbreak you’ve ever seen? It's the most dangerous pandemic in our lifetime. We are being asked to do things, certainly, that never happened in my lifetime—stay in the house, stay 6 feet away from other people, don’t go to group gatherings. Are we getting the right advice? Well, as you reach me, I'm pretending that I'm in a meditation retreat, but I'm actually being semi-quarantined in Marin County. Yes, this is very good advice. But did we get good advice from the president of the United States for the first 12 weeks? No. All we got were lies. Saying it’s fake, by saying this is a Democratic hoax. There are still people today who believe that, to their detriment. Speaking as a public health person, this is the most irresponsible act of an elected official that I've ever witnessed in my lifetime. But what you're hearing now [to self-isolate, close schools, cancel events] is right. Is it going to protect us completely? Is it going to make the world safe forever? No. It's a great thing because we want to spread out the disease over time. Flatten the curve. By slowing it down or flattening it, we're not going to decrease the total number of cases, we're going to postpone many cases, until we get a vaccine—which we will, because there's nothing in the virology that makes me frightened that we won’t get a vaccine in 12 to 18 months. Eventually, we will get to the epidemiologist gold ring. What’s that? That means, A, a large enough quantity of us have caught the disease and become immune. And B, we have a vaccine. The combination of A plus B is enough to create herd immunity, which is around 70 or 80 percent. I hold out hope that we get an antiviral for Covid-19 that is curative, but in addition is prophylactic. It's certainly unproven and it's certainly controversial, and certainly a lot of people are not going to agree with me. But I offer as evidence two papers in 2005, one in Nature and one in Science. They both did mathematical modeling with influenza, to see whether saturation with just Tamiflu of an area around a case of influenza could stop the outbreak. And in both cases, it worked. I also offer as evidence the fact that at one point we thought HIV/AIDS was incurable and a death sentence. Then, some wonderful scientists discovered antiviral drugs, and we've learned that some of those drugs can be given prior to exposure and prevent the disease. Because of the intense interest in getting [Covid-19] conquered, we will put the scientific clout and money and resources behind finding antivirals that have prophylactic or preventive characteristics that can be used in addition to [vaccines]. When will we be able to leave the house and go back to work? I have a very good retrospect-oscope, but what's needed right now as a prospecto-scope. If this were a tennis match, I would say advantage virus right now. But there's really good news from South Korea—they had less than 100 cases today. China had more cases imported than it had from continuous transmission from Wuhan today. The Chinese model will be very hard for us to follow. We're not going to be locking people up in their apartments, boarding them up. But the South Korea model is one that we could follow. Unfortunately, it requires doing the proportionate number of tests that they did—they did well over a quarter of a million tests. In fact, by the time South Korea had done 200,000 tests, we had probably done less than 1,000. What Is the Coronavirus? Now that we've missed the opportunity for early testing, is it too late for testing to make a difference? Absolutely not. Tests would make a measurable difference. We should be doing a stochastic process random probability sample of the country to find out where the hell the virus really is. Because we don't know. Maybe Mississippi is reporting no cases because it's not looking. How would they know? Zimbabwe reports zero cases because they don't have testing capability, not because they don't have the virus. We need something that looks like a home pregnancy test, that you can do at home. If you were the president for one day, what would you say in the daily briefing? I would begin the press conference by saying "Ladies and gentlemen, let me introduce you to Ron Klain—he was the Ebola czar [under President Barack Obama], and now I’ve called him back and made him Covid czar. Everything will be centralized under one person who has the respect of both the public health community and the political community." We're a divided country right now. Right now, Tony Fauci [head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases] is the closest that we come to that. Are you scared? I'm in the age group that has a one in seven mortality rate if I get it. If you're not worried, you're not paying attention. But I'm not scared. I firmly believe that the steps that we're taking will extend the time that it takes for the virus to make the rounds. I think that, in turn, will increase the likelihood that we will have a vaccine or we will have a prophylactic antiviral in time to cut off, reduce, or truncate the spread. Everybody needs to remember: This is not a zombie apocalypse. It's not a mass extinction event. Should we be wearing masks? The N95 mask itself is extremely wonderful. The pores in the mask are three microns wide. The virus is one micron wide. So you get people who say, well, it's not going to work. But you try having three big, huge football players who are rushing for lunch through a door at lunchtime—they're not going to get through. In the latest data I saw, the mask provided 5x protection. That's really good. But we have to keep the hospitals going and we have to keep the health professionals able to come to work and be safe. So masks should go where they’re needed the most: in taking care of patients. How will we know when we’re through this? The world is not going to begin to look normal until three things have happened. One, we figure out whether the distribution of this virus looks like an iceberg, which is one-seventh above the water, or a pyramid, where we see everything. If we're only seeing right now one-seventh of the actual disease because we're not testing enough, and we're just blind to it, then we're in a world of hurt. Two, we have a treatment that works, a vaccine or antiviral. And three, maybe most important, we begin to see large numbers of people—in particular nurses, home health care providers, doctors, policemen, firemen, and teachers who have had the disease—are immune, and we have tested them to know that they are not infectious any longer. And we have a system that identifies them, either a concert wristband or a card with their photograph and some kind of a stamp on it. Then we can be comfortable sending our children back to school, because we know the teacher is not infectious. And instead of saying "No, you can't visit anybody in nursing home," we have a group of people who are certified that they work with elderly and vulnerable people, and nurses who can go back into the hospitals and dentists who can open your mouth and look in your mouth and not be giving you the virus. When those three things happen, that's when normalcy will return. Is there in any way a brighter side to this? Well, I'm a scientist, but I'm also a person of faith. And I can't ever look at something without asking the question of isn't there a higher power that in some way will help us to be the best version of ourselves that we could be? I thought we would see the equivalent of empty streets in the civic arena, but the amount of civic engagement is greater than I've ever seen. But I'm seeing young kids, millennials, who are volunteering to go take groceries to people who are homebound, elderly. I'm seeing an incredible influx of nurses, heroic nurses, who are coming and working many more hours than they worked before, doctors who fearlessly go into the hospital to work. I've never seen the kind of volunteerism I'm seeing. I don't want to pretend that this is an exercise worth going through in order to get to that state. This is a really unprecedented and difficult time that will test us. When we do get through it, maybe like the Second World War, it will cause us to reexamine what has caused the fractional division we have in this country. The virus is an equal opportunity infector. And it’s probably the way we would be better if we saw ourselves that way, which is much more alike than different. WIRED is providing unlimited free access to stories about the coronavirus pandemic. Sign up for our Coronavirus Update to get the latest in your inbox.
  21. Sorry you are in that situation. I hope you get back to Canada safely!
  22. I am in emergency services and self isolated last week due to a cough. Had to go out twice....once to get a prescription. Shocked how many sheeple are out doing regular tasks. Morons will spread it more. Jeebus.....
  23. You are doing what you need to. You will get through this....like most of us will! We just need to stem the tide of fear mongering.
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