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Elias Pettersson

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  1. To New Jersey: Quinn Hughes To Vancouver: Simon Nemec Dawson Mercer Conditional 1st round pick
  2. The tank doesn’t seem to be working out too well. We might have to call up more AHL guys…
  3. It’s been the best 6 minutes of my life really…
  4. Who are these guys? What happened? Did the elephant leave the room?
  5. If Kuzmenko had a bit more speed that #96 would bring back alot of memories…
  6. Petey right in front where he belongs. Oh captain, my captain. A new era in Canucks hockey has officially begun...
  7. That's a pretty good comparable. The Sedins and Kelser didn't hang out together. Kesler wasn't the most popular guy in the room and wasn't too friendly with the media either.
  8. I'm pretty happy. I'd be more happy with a new $11 million contract though, those Audi's are quite expensive...
  9. Tonight's game will be interesting. I expect us to be worse without BO and so does everyone else. However, the bigger laugh would be if we actually played better without BO and that Miller is able to take those important draws and do well. That would tell us everything we need to know...
  10. Chychrun makes alot of sense for Boston if they want to take their best shot this year. Their forwards are fine. They could always look at Larkin if he goes UFA. Bergeron and Krejci may come back for one more year as well, so with Chychrun it gives them two great shots at a cup, or maybe two cups before Bergeron retires and before Boston blows it all up. Chychrun is also under contract for two more years, so if Boston blows it up they could flip him at the deadline in a couple of years versus signing Larkin to a long term deal.
  11. Ryan Reaves, Matt Martin, Kurtis MacDermid, Tom Wilson. I would say if we trade for all of these guys we should be okay...
  12. Pettersson's year this year is not considered an outlier. He is 24 and hasn't even entered his prime yet. It's a natural progression from when he was a rookie and won the Calder. He was producing at a 100-point pace going back to last January. It's not just this year. His "outlier" was the first half of last year when he was coming back from injury and missing training camp due to contract talks. Horvat has been in the league going on 9 years. Always playing 19-20 minutes a night. His progression, if you want to call it that, was minimal. A few points here and there. All of a sudden he's going from 60 points to 90 points. That isn't progression, that is an outlier year even worse than Miller last year. His shooting percentage is 22%. There is no possible way he can sustain that. Pettersson's metrics are the same. He's not shooting at some ridiculous number. As a matter of fact, he is producing less on the PP this year than in prior years, but his numbers are up huge 5v5. He is top 5 in the entire league at 5v5 play. He is not relying on Miller to feed him passes to pad his stats. He is driving play. Horvat is not a play driver. He has to rely on others to pad his stats. He cannot carry a line on his own. Never has. He is not worth $8.5 million. Not today, not tomorrow. I'm done with this conversation. I'm moving on...
  13. He thought he would be a Canuck forever, as long as he got his $68 million...
  14. Not sure what you are getting at. Eichel has never produced at a $10 million value. Petey is on pace for 100 points. So of course he is producing at a 100 point value. Now, if Petey falls off a cliff and only gets 80 points this year, then no I wouldn't give him a $10 million contract in the summer. I would offer him $9 million.
  15. I don't think the NHL will ever remove the cap. You'd have teams like New York Rangers with a $130 million payroll. No good would come out of that. Teams would fold. The NHL doesn't make enough tv and ad revenue to get rid of the cap. Revenue sharing is key to keeping teams in the NHL and making the league competitive. Without a cap McDavid does not stay in Edmonton long term. New York Rangers would have offered him $20 million when his first contract was up. The set up now makes the league competitive. The cap should go higher, it may hit $100 million in 5 years.
  16. I understand what you are saying. However, the Petey contract has to do with what he has done over his entire tenure with the Canucks. He has been a consistent PPG player since his arrival as a rookie. Now, he has shown that he can take the next step with a 100-point season (potentially), so he is deserving of a $10 million dollar contract. It's not all based on potential. He is actually producing at a $10 million level right now. When Eichel signed his huge contract, he wasn't producing the way Petey is now. He got millions more than he should have based on potential. He was a below PPG guy even in the year he signed his contract. They locked him up for 8 years at a young age thinking he would turn into that 100 point player, but it never happened. Most players earning $10 million have actually produced at a $10 million level. There are currently only 10 forwards making at least $10 million. McDavid, Matthews, Panarin, Tavares, Marner, Toews, Kane, Barkov, Kopitar and Eichel. Out of those 10 players, Eichel is the outlier, he doesn't belong in that group at all. Every player in that group has hit at least 96 points except Toews, Tavares, Kopitar and Eichel. Toews and Kopitar are Selke trophy winners so they belong in that group for their defensive prowess. Tavares was a UFA and Toronto way overpaid for him. That leaves Eichel as the outlier.
  17. UFA is a free market in the sense that teams are free to bid on UFA's who are no longer under contract to another team. However, there is a cap as to how much they can spend on said UFA. Real Estate does not have a cap. You are free to pay whatever you want for a property. If there is a bidding war, you might have to pay hundreds of thousands more that you want. This can happen several times in a year as there is no cap to stop the bidding wars. Sure, we will see more $10 million contracts, but that will hurt the lower end players. At the end of the day, there is only so much cap to go around, so if more players are getting $10 million deals, then that means that alot of 30+ UFA's are going to be left out to dry. We saw that last summer. Evan Rodrigues was coming off a 43-point season but could only manage a $2 million deal with Colorado. He was a casualty of the cap.
  18. If Petey was signing a contract today, he would be worth around $10 million. He is on pace for 100 points. If he is signing an 8-year deal at age 25 then he will probably be able to bump that up to $11 million based on future potential. Eichel wasn't even at a PPG when he signed his $10 million dollar deal. He was coming off a 64-point season playing 67 games. He was way overpaid based on his production at the time. They locked him up at $10 million for 8 years because they thought as a #2 overall pick he would be producing at a 100-point pace at some point. It never happened and probably never will...
  19. I disagree. Real Estate prices are based on a free market. Salaries in the NHL are based on a cap that teams have to work with. Salaries can only go up as far as the cap goes up. Real Estate prices can go up to infinity if they want to. Depends on what a buyer wants to pay for a property. If there was no cap then your analogy would make more sense, as we would be back in the 90's where the top end teams were spending millions more than the bottom feeders. However, in a cap world there is a limit as to how much you can pay a player. You can't pay a player more than 20% of the total teams cap. If I wanted to pay $10 million for a condo in East Vancouver there is nothing preventing me from doing that.
  20. Based on his past production and even based on his current production, Eichel is not a $10 million player. He is on pace this year for less than 82 points. His production is at a similar output to Miller. What does age have to do with it? Eichel got overpaid like many other players based on potential. So far, he hasn't lived up to his potential...
  21. Real Estate prices fluctuate from year to year, but if you look at the overall trend over a 5 year period or more, they always go up. Same with the stock market. Salaries in the NHL and elsewhere don't really follow that model. Salaries don't go down 20% in one year like Real Estate prices can do. They don't fluctuate to the same level year over year. For the most part, salaries go up every year, unless there is some outlier economic situation like a pandemic or financial crisis...
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