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  1. I’ve tried to be as positive and optimistic as I can with the Canucks ever since the Sedin era ended, but if 23 shots and this game where Demko is hung out to dry, our specialty teams were awful, our forwards didn’t play offense, we handed numerous chances to our opponents and we had a 15% disadvantage on faceoffs is what “trying their best” looks like then we need some major changes in the locker room immediately. This was an unacceptable performance, period. Very disappointing statement from Hughes.
  2. My thoughts: We need D-men who actually you know shoot the puck in the offensive end. Far too easy for opposition if they don’t have to worry about one or two of the point men knowing they’ll never shoot. Remember Salo, Edler, Ehrhoff, Bieksa? They could score and meant the opposing team had to always cover them, which left more open ice for our forwards to capitalize. We were a tough team to beat back then. Nowadays everyone’s trying to pass the buck instead of taking the initiative: get the puck to the net. That’s it, that’s literally the secret to success and no one seems to grasp it on our back end. I have no idea why no one is shooting on our D, it’s extremely frustrating and leads to predictable failure. Bruce isn’t going to be fired this season because we’re already paying Green not to coach. If anything changes (and it’s getting close to the point of being necessary) it needs to be a big name player shipped out. Not even for a good return, that doesn’t matter, more just to send a message to the rest of our players that your job isn’t safe and you better start working your tails off in game or you’re gone. Horvat and Pettersson should be the only two untouchables, maybe Hughes and Demko, but our old core needs a reality check. Then the new guys get brought in under that same lackluster environment and end up following suit. A never ending cycle. A big shake up trade that rattles the locker room is probably needed to light a fire under their asses and wake them the fuck up. This isn’t a let’s collect our paycheck game, you’re paid millions to win games and ever since the Sedins left we’ve lost that will to win and team effort throughout the lineup except in the odd stretch or two. I hope the managers follow through on their warning. Special teams coaches need to be fired. We were good under Walker and Shaw, but since then it’s been a tire fire. No idea why King still has a job. Yeo was an olive branch to Boudreau, but I was always skeptical given his past performance with Minnesota and it’s clear he doesn’t know what the hell he’s doing. Cull is also failing miserably in his new role. Our power play is ridiculously predictable and our penalty kill is ridiculously ineffective. We need experienced hands in the assistant coaches roles that are experts and have had success in those areas of the ice they’re in charge of coaching for. Like when we hired Malholtra for face offs. He was really good at faceoffs as a player and guess what? He was a really good coach for faceoffs too. Weird how that works huh? That’s why Shaw and Walker succeeded. Why the hell we stopped playing the PK/PP like Shaw and Walker had us doing is beyond me and head scratching to say the least. Worst case we fail this season and get a shot at Bedard who would immediately bring life and energy to our squad so I’m not too upset if we continue flailing like we are now. Also, in hindsight Demko’s lights out play last season I think really covered up a lot of flaws and problems with this team. If he’s not playing vezina worthy goaltending this team is toast. The frustrating part of all this as a fan is that we’ve seen brilliant stretches of play from all players on our roster, but it was just that: stretches, not consistency. That’s why I, like many other fans were optimistic with our team over the last few years. If they play at their best they’re unbeatable, but they don’t play at their best all the time. Until we get consistent game in and game out performance we aren’t going anywhere. I’ll still be watching every game this season and hoping the guys finally have that lightbulb go off, but I’m not holding my breath.
  3. Given what happened last year after our horrific start I don’t think anyone should be giving up before even 10 games have been played this year. We missed the playoffs by 6 points or 3 wins after a lousy first third of the season with a 9-15-2 start. If there’s one things that’s absolute in hockey: anything can happen. You don’t know up until after the final playoff berth is clinched. I’ll remain hopeful until we’re mathematically eliminated, just like I am every year.
  4. Just gotta say I love that we now have a reaction representing two players with the same emoticon. Gonna see a whole lot more bears on the CDC forums.
  5. This doesn’t exactly instill confidence for me in the new coaching/training staff. Any soreness that doesn’t go away after a day or two is something a player should not be playing through as it’s likely a sign of an injury. If it were the playoffs, sure I can see that, players often play with broken bones, but it’s early regular season. No injury will ever get better by playing through it, the right course of action is to rest and heal until whatever is bothering the player is no longer there. Would much rather him sit until he’s healthy for a few games or weeks then aggravate whatever is wrong and lose him to surgery or months off. This is pretty basic common sense stuff here and they’ve already failed pretty badly in their new roles.
  6. Ok, so you see it too? Thank goodness I’m not seeing things and yes he absolutely should get that checked out if he hasn’t already. I loved his interview. Can’t wait to see him on the ice for us!
  7. Someone tell me I’m seeing things. Is that a fairly large lump under his chin above his Adam’s apple? It looks very noticeable both with the mouth open and closed. Maybe he’s had a past injury I’m unaware of? He keeps stretching his mouth in the interview, which makes me a tad concerned. Maybe it’s nothing, but I don’t see that on any other player. Regardless of my potential over reading of his face (very possible I am, just have had a lot of tragedy in the family from lumps, so it makes me nervous for him), he’s willing to lose teeth to help the team win and that type of character is impossible to teach, you either have the gumption to pay the price no matter the cost or you don’t. He’ll be a welcome addition in that perspective. Hope he plays well and solidifies a roster spot as our 3/4C.
  8. I think he’s injured, but yes, much if healthy. Brisebois is not a NHL player, he’s a career AHL’er. Would even prefer Stillman, Rathbone or Bear as Myers partner. Though Stillman may not be game ready yet.
  9. Nice to see Höglander getting rewarded for his effort. He’s been flying out there and determinedly hounding the puck. Really don’t like a Brisebois-Myers pairing on D though. That scares the crap out of me.
  10. There’s a whole lot of misunderstanding going on in this thread. So here’s the facts. Yes, Bear would have been available on waivers very soon, however there’s two problems with that if the Canucks wanted to pick him up. 1) We can’t afford his full cap price. So if we wanted to pick him off waivers we’d have to send someone else down to the AHL. There’s not many player choices available to do so without having them get sent through waivers where it’s possible we could lose them for nothing. That is, unless we send down any of these players exempt from waivers (which if capfriendly is correct says is the only options): Rathbone, Aman, Podkolzin, Höglander or Kuzmenko. The obvious choice would be Rathbone, but with most of our injuries being on D-men that isn’t a great option right now. In addition I highly doubt any of these guys make it through without being claimed by another team. So those upset about asset management would be even more angry if we picked Bear up on waivers only to lose another asset for nothing. We have $38k of cap space available right now, without Carolina retaining we couldn’t afford Bear. Also 2) If we wanted him for our team it’s highly likely someone else in front of us on the waiver ranking list would have picked him up before us. D’s are extremely valuable in today’s NHL, more so then at any other time, so any free asset with potential will have a lineup of teams chomping at the bit. Because they’re so sought after, the only way you can get one is to draft/develop which takes 5ish years, take a risk on someone who’s price is low due to a recent falloff in play, or you pay an exorbitant amount, which we cannot afford to do so with our thin prospect pool. I would be upset if we traded Höglander as rumored or a 2nd round pick or even a 3rd round pick for a guy who hasn’t figured out the NHL yet, but a 5th? That’s not really much to pay. A 5th round pick has something like a 8% chance of playing over 100 games in the NHL. In about 5 years from the draft day. Yes, you could get one of those blue chip D or F players that change a teams dynamic, but those are few and far between. Bear himself has already played more games then 92% of players picked in the 5th round. In another sense we’re giving up an 8% chance of getting an Ethan Bear in 5 years from now for getting an Ethan Bear right now. https://dobberprospects.com/2020/05/16/nhl-draft-pick-probabilities/amp/ Worst case scenario he doesn’t workout and we let him walk at the end of the year so we lose a 8% shot at a NHL player. We aren’t tied to him or his contract, but you can bet if he plays even semi-decently given the demand for D-men there’ll be a Cup contending team that will give us at least a 5th at trade deadline for him, most likely more. Or we keep him as he proves to be better then his current value would indicate. There’s not a lot of risk for us to lose on this one. We also got another prospect in the deal, which for those who want us to have an abundance of draft picks should be happy with because it’s another chance at a good player we paid nothing extra for. Obviously it’s extremely unlikely Pederson amounts to anything, but that’s true for the vast majority of draft picks made outside the 1st round. Lastly the argument that a player doesn’t help a team or a team loses a trade unless they win a Stanley Cup is ridiculous and far too rigid analysis. Otherwise 95% of all trades ever made are losses if you view that to be the case. Obviously the goal for every team is to win it all, but a player can help a team regardless of what happens in the playoffs. You’re conflating two issues as one: whether a player traded can make enough of a difference to bring a Cup to a team with whether a player can make any difference at all. The two are not the same. It’s extremely rare for 1 trade to take a team from not winning a Cup to winning a Cup. Most Stanley Cup winners made numerous trades to create their rosters, it’s not just one. Now that Bear is a Canuck though I hope all people regardless of opinions wish him well on our team and want him to prove the doubters wrong to become an integral part of our team that we stole from Carolina for a pittance.
  11. Really relieved to see this. When a guy goes down in a heap like that after a puck hits the ankle without being able to move or get upit’s almost always broken bones that take a minimum of weeks, more likely months to heal from. If Miller is gone for a long time in addition to the numerous and growing number of injuries on the squad then this season is most definitely over. It’s hanging by a thread as is.
  12. More and more as time passes he reminds me so much of the Sedins. Doesn’t say much, but leads with on ice performance each and every game (when he’s fully healthy). Truly professional for such a young age and he never settles, always wants to get better in all aspects of the game (same with our old bros). You know you’re getting a good game from him and reliability every time he steps on the ice. We are extremely lucky to have Pettersson on our team.
  13. I know a lot of people are upset over this trade, but regardless of opinion let’s try to at least stick with the facts. There was no draft pick given for Studnicka. Dhaliwal’s tweet was wrong.
  14. Few things I want to say: Those people hoping for a rebuild are going to be disappointed. It’s clear by Allvin’s comments on Myrenberg being 5 years away that this team is going all in on winning now. Get used to the retool. I’m conflicted on this deal. Part of me says why in the fuck are Canucks trading away any RHD prospects given that is the single greatest need they’ve had in over a decade. Myrenberg may not end up as anything special, he may never play the NHL, but to give away any guy with a shot of being a RHD we’ve desperately needed for a guy that we can trade a plethora of wingers/forward prospects for instead is head scratching to say the least. It’s been impossible for us to find one at a reasonable cost in a trade, so giving up a potential home grown one, which is basically our only option is worrisome. On the other hand if you look at it from the perspective Myrenberg will amount to nothing (a high likelihood) then you can basically say we traded a 5th round pick for a PK’ing 3/4C with some upside potential. That would be a trade everyone here would be screaming about how “we took them to the cleaners”. Especially so because we’ve needed a new PK defensive centre forward to take on the oppositions best players ever since Beagle left. Studnicka is still young enough to have some potential to be a valuable NHL player, he fits an organizational need and we basically gave up a 5th rounder to get him, or what I’d like to call a steal. Like I said, I’m conflicted. Regardless I hope, just like with every player that becomes a Canuck that Studnicka surprises and becomes an integral, indispensable part of our team. I also wish DiPietro well on his new team, it was a good thing for management to find him a new home.
  15. Yeah I’m still not panicking. It’s been 2 games. If we go on a 10-3 run no one’s going to be talking about or caring about these first two games. At the 10 game mark if we still have a bad record then I’ll start to subscribe to the “here we go again, only this time under a different coach, maybe it’s the players” mantra.
  16. Maybe it’s because of last season’s experience, but I’m not pressing the panic button yet. I also want to push back on the criticism of Hoglander. His effort is obviously there each and every shift (that can’t be taught) and maybe some people have forgotten, but he’s only had basically a season and a third in the NHL. Most of it played amidst the COVID pandemic with all sorts of delays and changes. Sometimes it takes guys time to figure things out and we expect him to be perfect with all the extra challenges he’s had to face compared to basically any other prospect the Canucks have had ever in their history? Talk about unrealistic expectations. Keep in mind, he’s also only 21 years old. He’s a newbie still to the top level of hockey. Not every prospect can just jump into the NHL and be effective. Hughes, Pettersson and Podkolzin are the exceptions, not the rule. He’ll figure things out this year as he now finally has a full season to be able to learn and grow without interruptions. Quote me on that.
  17. Talk is cheap. I’ll believe it when I see it starting with who the new board members are. They have a long journey ahead to regain our trust as Canadians. We aren’t going to support anything, but substantial, measurable actions taken to ensure not only that this never happens again, but also to make sure our sport is safe for and welcoming to all, including minorities. If you can play hockey that’s all that should matter.
  18. At the very least people within now know if they do anything similar to what Hockey Canada leaders did they’ll lose their job. It won’t fix everything and there’s a long journey ahead, but there’s also going to be a lot more people now taking sexual assault and overall toxic culture problems more seriously throughout the organization. That alone will create a better environment for all involved.
  19. About goddamn time. This was always going to be the end result necessary to start repairing their relationship with Canadians and restoring the trust they’ve broken. I don’t know why they dragged it out so long. Thank goodness for good journalists like Rick Westhead. Never would have seen the light of day otherwise and we’d go about not knowing the revolting actions they’ve taken to cover up scandals. Now we can try to create a better completely inclusive Hockey Canada where EVERYONE IS WELCOME regardless of skin colour, sexual orientation, religious belief or anything else. Where wrong-doing has consequences. Where people can be themselves and still play the game they love while feeling safe. We’ve got a long ass journey ahead of us to reach that goal, but at least we can start going down a better path.
  20. Thanks again @goalie13! It’s a ton of work to put on year after year. Predictions may change depending on who is actually playing. 3-2 Canucks Pettersson GWG Horvat 1st Canuck goal
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