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I’ll answer my own question: Eddie Lack is next. And yes Vancouver is going to be implicated, I hope they decide to make a change on this issue. https://bc.ctvnews.ca/accusations-of-medical-malpractice-mistreatment-among-nhl-teams-not-surprising-to-former-player-1.5611177 It’s a striking accusation that does not come as a surprise to one former NHL player. Retired goaltender Eddie Lack recalls seeing teammates receive pills from team doctors on numerous occasions. Sometimes, Lack says, it would be for pain relief during the gruelling 82-game NHL season, and other times, it would be for help falling asleep on late night flights. “Do I have the proof that Robin (Lehner) says he has? No,” Lack told CTV News. “But, do I think things like that go on with teams? Yeah. 100 per cent.”
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Definitely liked what I saw last game. He wouldn’t be the first late bloomer d-man who blossoms in his mid-late 20’s either. I hope Green rewards him from his excellent performance on Sunday and decides he gets to play tomorrow. I think he needs a much closer look/examination given the uncertain Hamonic situation the team currently faces.
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Robin Lehner Makes Some Serious Accusations
StanleyCupOneDay replied to Thrillhaus's topic in General Hockey Discussion
Starting to see a little fire to that smoke. Probably needs an independent investigation. -
If you choose not to get vaccinated then you are by choice anti-vax. I truly wish that this disease doesn’t come into your family or community, it can be a real eye opener. https://globalnews.ca/news/8216343/bc-mom-covid-unvaccinated-regret-hospital/ https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/04/fit-and-healthy-man-42-from-southport-who-rejected-vaccine-dies-of-covid
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I’m confused, I use data to form my opinions and new data can change my position. I was talking about the argument “I had COVID and then I took the vaccine and it caused a bad side effect”. There hasn’t been evidence to suggest that COVID antibodies create an adverse reaction when getting the vaccine. I think it’s more likely a case that for those who get bad COVID symptoms they got the vaccine too late to protect them. I could very well be wrong and if there’s substantial evidence I will re-evaluate.
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The pandemic hasn’t effected me or others I know so it’s not a big deal. Another common argument. And again I’m happy that your areas aren’t dealing with people having problems accessing care or worse losing someone you loved. Meanwhile in an area you don’t know about: https://globalnews.ca/news/8214069/surgeries-postponed-interior-health-hospitals-officials/
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Has anyone ever gave you a medication for any issue that doesn’t have potential negative side effects? Because I remember every commercial and prescription I’ve gotten be explained about the side effects, what to monitor and when to stop if things get really bad. We are all different human beings, we are wired differently, we’ve had different experiences and expecting perfection in any medicine 100% of the time is never achievable. That’s a false equivalence. When they themselves are not only wishing, but actively harming others by not protecting themselves is vastly different then someone writing words on the internet. They may say to hell with the unvaxxed, but in reality the vaccinated are actually doing more to protect them and their loved ones then they are doing for themselves. Words matter, but actions matter more.
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I’m always open to more data, it’s a new disease so we may not know everything. However that said I’m more likely to see the “vaccine gave me a side effect after contracting COVID” as an “I got COVID before my vaccine was able to fully protect me” situation and that they’re just experiencing bad COVID symptoms one of which is myocarditis.
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You’re right and it also says most patients with myocarditis responded well to medicine and rest and felt better quickly. Next line says patients can usually return back to their normal daily activities after symptoms improve. So the majority of the minority who get this potential side effect after receiving a vaccine can get back to normal fairly quickly.
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First hand experience does not automatically mean that this is the case in all hospitals. Maybe it is for your local one and if so that’s great! It means those needing care can get it, but for the other hospitals where that’s not true it is a very serious issue. I am not certain on the data behind my claim that the vaccinated face equal if not more cases of myocarditis, but I’m going to mention it anyways is not a very convincing argument. You’re absolutely right on this one. We need to monitor the number of cases, the number of long haul cases and overall impacts from COVID. It’s really not, the data shows not only does it prevent hospitalizations and death, but it also lessens the ability for one to infect another if they have COVID. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/vaccinated-people-are-less-likely-spread-covid-new-research-finds-n1280583 Of course Archibald very well could have developed the myocarditis condition (3.1m worldwide diagnosed in 2017 according to the myocarditis foundation https://www.myocarditisfoundation.org/about-myocarditis/ ) without having gotten COVID, but I think evidence points to the more likely answer that he got it as an effect after contracting the disease. We already know from mountains of research and clinical trials that vaccines protect the person from COVID infection at the 95%ish range. Therefore it is absolutely reasonable to say a vaccine could have prevented his current condition.
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Yes, you can refuse a doctor attempting to save your life by doing “x”, but the real question is why would you? Ah yes, the natural immunity argument. Here’s a good breakdown on why it’s still better to get a vaccine after having COVID. https://globalnews.ca/news/8229808/covid-vaccine-natural-immunity-fact-check/ Someone who has had COVID and is unvaccinated is still a threat to themselves and others, though less of one then someone who hasn’t had COVID and is unvaccinated. There’s different levels of threats depending on vaccine status and time passed since their shot. Single dose vaccinated are still a threat to others, though again less of one then the unvaccinated. That last comment crosses a line. Suggesting mental illness in response to someone wanting to keep themselves, their kids, their family and their community protected from potential sickness or death is completely over the top and unnecessary. Mental health is a serious issue for more people then they’d admit, has cost too many lives and should not be taken lightly.
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Thanks, I’m just so tired of seeing people defend or accept as a personal choice the decision to not get vaccinated and seeing those who’ve done everything even if it means negatively effecting themselves to protect others constantly get criticized for not being empathetic with anti-vaxxers. Since the pandemic began I’ve seen no friends. I’ve seen my mom and dad less then a dozen times. I’ve left my apartment building with a mask on less then two dozen times either to a doctor to refill my prescriptions, to vote or for my cat when she was sick off and on and eventually died. I’ve left my apartment door with a mask on only to take out trash/recycling and pick up mail. I’ve paid extra to get groceries/food delivered and I greet anyone at my door with a mask on. It’s had a negative impact on my health, but for me it’s worth it to know that I can guarantee I didn’t make this pandemic worse, that no one got sick or died because of me. That some people may have lived because of my actions. How many others have made personal sacrifices for the greater good during this outbreak? How many others would have lost someone or had a loved one fall ill if not for those people taking these protective measures? And all so we the vaccinated can be criticized by others to be more caring to the people who we protect more then they protect themselves. It’s pretty ironic if you think about it.
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The people telling the vaccinated to be more reasonable and empathetic to those unvaccinated because of their personal decision oddly enough never seem to mention one obvious simple fact: this disease is contagious. That means being in the presence of others can spread the illness. That means your decision not to get the jab has an impact on people beyond being as so many defenders/hesitators call it “a personal decision”. It infuriates most of us who hear arguments like this. How many fully vaccinated people have had to miss work and struggle with their finances because of being in quarantine from an unvaccinated person spreading disease? How many vaccinated people have had important health care refused because the hospitals are too full with the unvaxxed to take care of them? How many health care workers have suffered exhaustion and burnout from treating those unwilling to protect themselves or others? How many people have cut off or cut down on seeing their friends/families in order to help control the disease? How much mental health effect have people experienced by doing so? How many people have died because of someone else’s “personal decision”? How many others in this world, country, province have been negatively impacted by the unvaccinated? So which group really deserves empathy and compassion during a plague? Those trying to do what they can to protect themselves and others or those doing nothing trying to pretend the pandemic doesn’t even exist? It’s them saying directly to us “we don’t care about our impact on your and your loved ones health because we deserve to do anything we want regardless of consequences to others”. That’s why the 80-90% majority of us who are doing what it takes to keep our loved ones, those we don’t know and even the unvaccinated protected are fed up seeing people defending those who have no interest in protecting our own families and loved ones. Now how do you think that makes the fully vaccinated feel? Maybe for once instead of constantly defending the tiny minority that’s keeping this pandemic going for all of us, put yourself in the shoes of someone fully vaccinated and what they’re going through because of those unwilling to take a vaccine (not unlike the ones humanity has used to eradicate smallpox). What would a world look like if diseases such as smallpox were still rampant because people refused to get protection? How many more would be dead? Would your family line survive? Would you be alive? These are questions we don’t face because people decided to get vaccinated. Luckily the vast majority of us have gotten how serious and important it is to get the shots protecting us against COVID and the number of people we convince to do so continues rising while the loud minority continues to shrink. The only reason that the impacts of this pandemic haven’t been worse is because the majority of us are following the guidelines to social distance, mask and get vaccinated and it’s about damn time we start getting credit for what we’ve done in order to save lives.
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Gotta say I disagree here. If anything I’m cheering for him in this particular instance. Yes he didn’t want to do it, yes he felt forced into it, yes he waited way too long to do it, but in the end he got the vaccine and helped to protect his friends, family, coworkers and community. We shouldn’t criticize someone who came to the right conclusion regardless of how long it took them. Especially so when many others won’t ever get to the “I’ll do it under protest” point. The booing should be left to those like Wilde and Rinaldo who won’t get to yes in any form. He’s still a dick and I’ll never forgive him for that Sedin hit, but regarding COVID he should be applauded.
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I’m hoping Rogers arena has better compliance then Abbotsford. All I know is an outbreak is going to be front page national news this season at some point if fans refuse to follow basic safety measures like tonight. Heck maybe there was one already and we’ll hear about it later. Disappointed to say the least.