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There’s a few very intriguing prospects that I would love to see fall to 11 like Oliver Moore, Ryan Leonard and David Reinbacher but I don’t think they will be available to us. Out of the guys who are more realistically available to us I don’t see many C’s I would take, I like Danielson but not at 11 because I think he has the floor of a 4th line C I don’t think he has the upside I want at 11 so the only C with that upside would be Yager who doesn’t top my list but I wouldn’t be angry if we took him. Wingers I’d be happy with are Perrault, Wood and Barlow but Axel Sandin Pellikka tops my list, he isn’t big bodied but he skates incredibly well and moves the puck exceptionally, there are other ways to find size so to have him or Hughes on the ice for most of a game can only benefit the team.

This organization has shown they have no plan for damn near a decade now. We aren’t gonna win with Demko in the next few years and his value might not get higher, I don’t think him rebounding is a guarantee, those hips are going to be a problem and there’s rumblings (and who can blame him) that he doesn’t want to be here. It shouldn’t take a Kings ransom. Grans and a 1st we should jump on in a second but I don’t know that the Kings would even offer that. Give me Durzi straight up, we need to be looking at players this team can win with and actually have a plan with vision

Unfortunately this team knows nothing of asset management, could have had Toffoli and Stetcher for the same cap as Schmidt but trade a 3rd for Schmidt. Trade a pick to acquire Dickinson and then trade a pick just to move him. This team is an atrocity and the situation is as bleak right now as it’s ever been. If anyone sees a light at the end of the tunnel then they’re high

Well anytime I was discussing it there were very few people that backed me and a ton that thought I was crazy for wanting to move him. Maybe I was in a poopy thread haha

90% of people on these boards wanted Miller re signed and already have buyers remorse. I thought he should have been moved 2 deadlines ago but certainly no later then last years deadline. Made no sense not moving him but signing him through his mid 30s where players generally decline, oftentimes rapidly

Oh it definitely starts with ownership, being the president or GM of this team are some of the worst management positions in the NHL because you’re essentially neutered and unable to do what you really want to do or think is best. I know this team won’t rebuild, which is infuriating, but it’s what they should do. But instead, we will Wade in the pools of mediocrity like we have been doing. This team is the definition of insanity

They won’t rebuild but they should and they should rebuild around Petey and Hughes with everyone else being expendable. The last thing we should do is retool, that’s what we’ve done over the last 8-9 years and it’s worked out terribly. Had we just started a rebuild instead of the retool nonsense we would be in a much better situation with our young players and cap

You say you can’t play “what ifs” and then you go and play a “what if” saying we’d be in a far worse position had we not traded for OEL. This team would be in a much better spot had they not traded for OEL. Ownership and management groups have done an awful job of building this team for far too long now. We were on the verge of losing bad contracts and being in a better space and then dumb JB goes and brings OELs terrible contract on the books while moving a 1st (which is what this teams needs more then anything, effective ELCs)

As a kid I liked the Avs as well but I don’t really have a second team I root for in the NHL anymore, come playoff time I pick the team with the most players I like to determine who I want to win each series. The Avs, another team that got it turned around from the ground up during our never ending re tool haha

Canucks ownership is awful. FA has hurt this team and looks like he has no intention of stopping anytime soon. Other teams have started rebuilds after we started to “retool” and have already done the hard work and have bright futures where as we are still in no man’s land. Such a frustrating team to love. What a bad decision my 4 year old self made when I committed to this team almost 30 years ago haha. They say the definition of crazy is doing the same things repeatedly and expecting different results each time. FA is crazy and unfortunately it trickles down from the top and the team is a mess.

Skating is a big issue of his but so is his effort level. He’s not always engaged and doesn’t have that “want” level that you prefer to have in prospects. He’s great in the offensive zone but he’s not a guy I want, if we stick at 15 he’s one of few players that could potentially be there that I do not want

This team DOES need to trade a big piece. Not because of performance necessarily but because the salary cap and cap issues are both real things and asset management needs to be a priority, especially for a team with as weak a prospect pool as ours. We aren’t in a position to give JT Miller a monster contract that runs through his mid and late 30s, that’s not good business for this team. So if you can’t sign him you’re foolish not to trade him, maximize his value and add a combination of a young player/prospects/picks that can help this team add depth and ELCs to contribute to success.

Columbus isn’t moving Sillinger in a trade for Miller and they’re probably a hard no on Johnson too but they still have enough pieces to make a real intriguing offer. Peeke is a piece the Canucks should be bullish on in a potential Miller return. Peeke, Texier, 12 OA and then one of a 2nd in ‘23/Marchenko/Chinakhov would be a real nice return for Miller with 50% retained

I’m right there with you. Grans and Turcotte in the deal would make me way too happy but LA could very well not be into that

I know Schneider wasn’t in the deal but that’s the only way I make a move with the Rangers, I’d look to revisit that and see what happens this off-season. Clarke is obviously the piece you want I just don’t see the Kings parting with him. If we get a good enough package I’m fine trading Miller in the division and LA can put a package together I’d be happy with while excluding Clarke. If Clarke is in the deal then that’s obviously the move to make from the Canucks stand point

I think we should draft our own as well but I don’t think we are getting either of those picks to land Nemec or Jiricek. We will have to take shots at RHD with later picks this year and make a concerted effort to draft a couple a year and hope a couple develop into what we need over time. In the short term I think you look to add Schneider++ in a Miller trade to the Rangers or Faber/Grans from the kings, maybe you get stupid lucky and land both of them or one of them and Durzi in a trade

It is real tough to land those RHD so hopefully if a Miller trade is made we get the one we want out of the Rangers or we can move him to LA for one (fingers crossed for 2) of theirs

Bichsel is almost exactly what we need, the only way he would fit what we need any better is if he was RH. His wingspan is absurd and his defensive game is strong and there’s untapped potential offensively. I’d be over the moon with him but would not be surprised if he continues to jump up draft boards and surprises some on draft day. I hope he’s available at 15

Makar is on a different level, he’s the Orr or Coffey of this generation, just in a league of his own and it’s special to watch. I absolutely love Hughes but there’s no debating he’s equal to Makar. Makar is in a top tier by himself of young Dmen and then you gotta put Adam Fox as the next best young Dman and Hughes falls into a group behind Fox

That would be great if we could. I think Turcotte has actually looked pretty solid in the AHL in his stints there over the last couple seasons, he’s still young and could pop so I’d be in favour of adding him with one of those Dmen but if given the option I’d take the 2 Dmen

I hope they make that move I just don’t see it happening. Fingers crossed though

I agree they’re not in the best situation with aging players and a mediocre prospect pool, that’s just another reason I can’t see them making that move. If they were willing I’d be all in on it, I’d be extremely happy I just don’t see it as being very realistic, but we shall see!

Lundell would be the dream scenario but Florida would be crazy to move him, he just had an excellent rookie season and is only going to get better with 2 more seasons on his ELC. If that trade happened I’d have to pinch myself and would be over the moon but unfortunately I think I’d wake up shortly after haha

I don’t think we would have to add to get Clarke for Miller, if the Canucks offered that to LA I assume they jump on it as a 1 for 1 deal. I just don’t see Clarke being 1 of 3 or 4 pieces in a trade. If we could potentially get Grans/Faber and Turcotte in the deal with a pick I prefer going that route and LA could deem that as being too much. We will just have to wait and see

It is worth it but if you’re giving up 3 really nice pieces I think you can have him as an untouchable if you’re LA, given Millers age and cost of extension. If he was 26 when his next contract was kicking in then Clarke would be needed in the deal but if he was 26 you also wouldn’t be moving him