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there's been a lot of rule changes, if you discredit some changes and not other's that's bias. https://records.nhl.com/history/historical-rule-changes factoring awards/all star appearances in to a players resume is flawed if you do not consider how many player's were on the ice, and how many were rostered and how many teams in the league. heck there even was a rule that stated a captain had to be on the ice for the entirty of the game. The game changed so much from decade to decade. comparing each decade back to back is reasonable, but comparing the 80's to the 00's is silly and comparing player's from the 1920's to the 2020's is outlandish
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Best All-Time Defenseman Round 8
Bad_BOI_pete replied to IBatch's topic in General Hockey Discussion
you have rose colored glasses my friend, im done posting here, ive made enough of a case -
Best All-Time Defenseman Round 8
Bad_BOI_pete replied to IBatch's topic in General Hockey Discussion
here's a good article why the 80's had so much scoring https://grantland.com/the-triangle/why-were-the-80s-so-insane-in-the-nhl/ -
Best All-Time Defenseman Round 8
Bad_BOI_pete replied to IBatch's topic in General Hockey Discussion
totall agree, this guy just thinks todays players wouldnt be able to put up numbers if they played in the 80's. like bro, you for real? -
Best All-Time Defenseman Round 8
Bad_BOI_pete replied to IBatch's topic in General Hockey Discussion
but the didnt have to pick corners, they just had to throw it on net. and add in the fact there was no such thing as defense -
Best All-Time Defenseman Round 8
Bad_BOI_pete replied to IBatch's topic in General Hockey Discussion
haha you can look at the stats, and you can see how shooting percentage dropped from top players in the 80 at about 25-30% down to 15% -20%. name any player that played in 95-96 who scored more points the very next year. for everyone you name, (i know them all) i will give you three that had drastic point reductions. i have watched the highlights and the efforts of the defenders are no where near of the current era. players in the 80's had it way easier, gretzky said it. gretzky has even said many players of the current era are better than him. if i have to show you how bad they defended it will be pretty easy, all the best highlights are from the current era -
Best All-Time Defenseman Round 8
Bad_BOI_pete replied to IBatch's topic in General Hockey Discussion
im just saying the elite of the past had different level of competition as compared the competition of now, especially when it comes to defense. its also said you cant teach a man offensive prowess, which is why these players were so good. it wont take me very long to prove my case, ill start with this. you can obviously see goalies had a harder time keeping the puck out of the net in the past, it largely due to the equipment. but comparing a guys point totals in the 70's - 80's point totals is a little disengenous. 2019-20 NHL 1082 3.02 0.60 2.97 20.03 79.97 31.3 28.4 .910 2.82 2 2018-19 NHL 1271 3.01 0.58 2.92 19.78 80.22 31.3 28.5 .910 2.81 3 2017-18 NHL 1271 2.97 0.61 3.04 20.18 79.82 31.8 29.0 .912 2.78 4 2016-17 NHL 1230 2.77 0.57 2.99 19.10 80.90 30.1 27.5 .913 2.59 5 2015-16 NHL 1230 2.71 0.58 3.11 18.66 81.34 29.6 27.1 .915 2.51 6 2014-15 NHL 1230 2.73 0.57 3.06 18.66 81.34 29.8 27.3 .915 2.52 7 2013-14 NHL 1230 2.74 0.59 3.27 17.89 82.11 30.0 27.4 .914 2.56 8 2012-13 NHL 720 2.72 0.61 3.32 18.22 81.78 29.0 26.5 .912 2.54 9 2011-12 NHL 1230 2.73 0.57 3.31 17.31 82.69 29.7 27.1 .914 2.54 10 2010-11 NHL 1230 2.79 0.64 3.54 18.02 81.98 30.3 27.7 .913 2.61 11 2009-10 NHL 1230 2.84 0.68 3.71 18.23 81.77 30.2 27.5 .911 2.66 12 2008-09 NHL 1230 2.91 0.79 4.16 18.95 81.05 30.1 27.4 .908 2.73 13 2007-08 NHL 1230 2.78 0.76 4.28 17.75 82.25 29.0 26.3 .909 2.61 14 2006-07 NHL 1230 2.95 0.85 4.85 17.58 82.42 29.5 26.7 .905 2.77 15 2005-06 NHL 1230 3.08 1.03 5.85 17.68 82.32 29.9 27.0 .901 2.92 16 2003-04 NHL 1230 2.57 0.70 4.24 16.46 83.54 28.0 25.5 .911 2.46 17 2002-03 NHL 1230 2.65 0.73 4.42 16.43 83.57 28.3 25.7 .909 2.54 18 2001-02 NHL 1230 2.62 0.65 4.13 15.77 84.23 27.5 25.0 .908 2.51 19 2000-01 NHL 1230 2.76 0.76 4.59 16.64 83.36 27.6 25.0 .903 2.65 20 1999-00 NHL 1148 2.75 0.65 4.03 16.15 83.85 27.9 25.2 .904 2.64 Rk Season Lg GP G PP PPO PP% PK% SA SV SV% GAA 21 1998-99 NHL 1107 2.63 0.69 4.38 15.81 84.19 27.8 25.2 .908 2.56 22 1997-98 NHL 1066 2.64 0.70 4.64 15.08 84.92 27.3 24.7 .906 2.53 23 1996-97 NHL 1066 2.92 0.67 4.10 16.27 83.73 29.7 26.9 .905 2.80 24 1995-96 NHL 1066 3.14 0.90 5.04 17.93 82.07 30.2 27.1 .898 3.04 25 1994-95 NHL 624 2.99 0.77 4.36 17.73 82.27 29.3 26.4 .901 2.89 26 1993-94 NHL 1092 3.24 0.90 4.85 18.64 81.36 30.2 27.1 .895 3.14 27 1992-93 NHL 1008 3.63 1.03 5.28 19.57 80.43 30.9 27.4 .885 3.53 28 1991-92 NHL 880 3.48 0.97 5.02 19.24 80.76 30.4 27.0 .888 3.37 29 1990-91 NHL 840 3.46 0.89 4.57 19.44 80.56 29.7 26.4 .886 3.35 30 1989-90 NHL 840 3.68 0.95 4.58 20.77 79.23 30.2 26.6 .881 3.56 31 1988-89 NHL 840 3.74 1.06 5.04 20.99 79.01 30.3 26.6 .879 3.63 32 1987-88 NHL 840 3.71 1.11 5.46 20.29 79.71 30.4 26.8 .880 3.62 33 1986-87 NHL 840 3.67 0.90 4.30 20.98 79.02 29.9 26.3 .880 3.56 34 1985-86 NHL 840 3.97 1.02 4.62 22.08 77.92 31.0 27.1 .874 3.87 35 1984-85 NHL 840 3.89 0.89 4.01 22.20 77.80 30.5 26.7 .875 3.79 36 1983-84 NHL 840 3.94 0.92 4.20 21.91 78.09 30.5 26.7 .873 3.84 37 1982-83 NHL 840 3.86 0.89 3.87 22.92 77.08 30.5 26.7 .875 3.80 38 1981-82 NHL 840 4.01 0.91 4.00 22.85 77.15 31.1 27.1 .873 3.95 39 1980-81 NHL 840 3.84 0.96 4.25 22.53 77.47 30.4 26.7 .876 3.78 40 1979-80 NHL 840 3.51 0.77 3.50 21.86 78.14 29.3 25.9 .882 3.46 Rk Season Lg GP G PP PPO PP% PK% SA SV SV% GAA 41 1978-79 NHL 680 3.50 0.77 3.38 22.72 77.28 29.3 25.9 .883 3.45 42 1977-78 NHL 720 3.30 0.67 3.19 21.15 78.85 29.2 26.0 .889 3.26 43 1976-77 NHL 720 3.32 0.66 3.31 19.83 80.17 30.0 26.7 .891 3.28 44 1975-76 NHL 720 3.41 0.82 4.01 20.54 79.46 30.6 27.2 .890 3.37 45 1974-75 NHL 720 3.43 0.80 3.95 20.33 79.67 30.7 27.4 .890 3.38 46 1973-74 NHL 624 3.20 0.63 3.30 19.09 80.91 30.3 27.2 .896 3.16 47 1972-73 NHL 624 3.28 0.63 3.34 18.71 81.29 31.1 27.8 .896 3.24 48 1971-72 NHL 546 3.07 0.67 3.45 19.38 80.62 30.9 27.9 .903 3.02 49 -
Best All-Time Defenseman Round 8
Bad_BOI_pete replied to IBatch's topic in General Hockey Discussion
i do agree that these players dominated during thier time period, but for alot of the older players the reason it seems so drastic is that thier competition was really bad. todays average nhler if brought back in time would be an all star player in the 70's. not because of talent but because of how well they would play positionally, and the amount of effort they work on thier deficiencies. that being said i do think all of the older players would be all stars if given the same coaching and were playing currently, they just wouldnt dominate like the did in thier era. case in point. -
What does Barzal sign for? (Poll/Discussion)
Bad_BOI_pete replied to J.I.A.H.N's topic in Proposals and Armchair GM'ing
2 years at 6 million, i think they only got a 2 year window -
[Signing] Bruins re-sign Jake DeBrusk
Bad_BOI_pete replied to -Vintage Canuck-'s topic in Trades, Rumours, Signings
Nice deal for boston. -
Something’s gotta give (Trade deadline coming?)
Bad_BOI_pete replied to DeNiro's topic in General Hockey Discussion
sorry, you're right. i was stuck up on the fact that its possible to void contracts, league would need to prove the player would have anything to do with going over the cap. now it seems rather silly, what i was arguing. -
Something’s gotta give (Trade deadline coming?)
Bad_BOI_pete replied to DeNiro's topic in General Hockey Discussion
i have no idea, but it could be a option. (EDIT; IT WOULDN'T BE AN OPTION) -
Something’s gotta give (Trade deadline coming?)
Bad_BOI_pete replied to DeNiro's topic in General Hockey Discussion
its kind of decieving on how many teams are over the cap stlouis will have a minimum of tarasenko's 7million+ contact on IR arizona has marian hossa 5.3mto put on IR Canucks will likely run a 21 man roster toronto will run a 22/21 man roster anaheim will have kesler on IR 6.9M winnipeg will have bryan little on IR 5.3M that leaves only tampa, islanders, with the big offenders and washington,vegas and edmonton going to have to get a little creative. -
Something’s gotta give (Trade deadline coming?)
Bad_BOI_pete replied to DeNiro's topic in General Hockey Discussion
its very possible they void the contract if its deemed to circumvent the cap, like if they offered both cirelli and sergachev NMC'S (EDIT; THIS WOULD ONL BE THE TEAMS PROBLEM, NOT THE PLAYER'S). however, it's 99.999999% unlikely this situation arises. thier is no way in hell brisebois puts himself over the cap without a deal in place. look at how we got schmidt, that trade was lined up before pietrangelo signed. if tampa bay finds no trade partners for a johnson or/and palat the rfas will be traded. -
Something’s gotta give (Trade deadline coming?)
Bad_BOI_pete replied to DeNiro's topic in General Hockey Discussion
it wouldnt be a choice.... it would be the contracts that put you over that would be cancelled obviously. your just making stuff up to fit your narrative (EDIT: IM WRONG HERE). the info i gave you is from the CBA. and the decision basically comes down to gary bettman, he can do whatever he wants as long as it doesnt disregard CBA rules(EDIT:THIS WOULD DISREGARD CBA RULES). signing a player that puts the team over the cap IS circumventing the cap, if you dont have plans to get under the cap. and saing player x wouldnt waive his NTC is not going to cut the mustard. anyways, this is kind of a silly argument,there's no way in hell this scenario happens. TB wont sign any of thier RFA'S before having a deal in place beforehand, or they'll just trade the RFA's. -
Something’s gotta give (Trade deadline coming?)
Bad_BOI_pete replied to DeNiro's topic in General Hockey Discussion
i have, there hasn't been a case of this kind of cap circumvention. they could possibly do anything. my guess is they cancel the rights to the contracts that pushed them over, or they forfeit every game if they refuse. if they lost just a couple of picks all teams would be doing it. im sure cirelli and sergachev would find a home TURNS OUT I HAVE TROUBLE WITH READING COMPREHENSION, THIS IS NOT TRUE. -
Something’s gotta give (Trade deadline coming?)
Bad_BOI_pete replied to DeNiro's topic in General Hockey Discussion
says you